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http://wvmetronews.com/2017/08/11/west-v...ket-sales/


MORGANTOWN, W.Va. — West Virginia’s athletic department projects football season ticket sales to top out around 27,000, continuing a five-year decline.

The program has sold about 26,300 packages for its six-game home schedule, said Matt Wells, WVU’s senior associate athletic director. The three weeks leading up to the opener typically attracts an additional 500 to 1,000 buyers.

Priced at $365 with donations required for premium tiers, the package includes two home games against opponents in the preseason coaches poll, No. 11 Oklahoma State and No. 23 Texas. The Mountaineers, coming off a 10-win season, are ranked 20th.

West Virginia sold all 17,000 seats allotted for its highly anticipated neutral-site opener against Virginia Tech, which was not part of the season ticket package.

West Virginia football season tickets

Year Sales No. games Cost
2017 27,000* 6 games $365
2016 28,035 7 games $395
2015 28,837 7 games $395
2014 29,553 6 games $365
2013 33,623 6 games $365
2012 37,341 7 games $395

That 2012 surge, created by the frenzy of WVU joining a new conference and building off the Orange Bowl demolition of Clemson, may never be matched. The television experience is so crisp and convenient that many Power 5 programs struggle to gain offseason commitments. (To that end, West Virginia is adding a new video board to the north end zone and has completed its second phase of stadium concourse renovations.)


This might hurt future evaluations; capacity ~ 60k.
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RE: Oops: WVU season ticket sales down for a 5th yr in a row
For reference, OK State recently:

Here is OSU’s top 10 season-ticket sales seasons:
1. 2013: 50,223

2. 2015: 49,412

3. 2012: 48,883

4. 2009: 45,455


2016 numbers were 43,728 at beginning of season

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/os...ad2b3.html



Just thought I would post this as this board often compares schools who would round out nicely if the SEC added OU.
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RE: Oops: WVU season ticket sales down for a 5th yr in a row
(08-11-2017 11:18 AM)murrdcu Wrote:  For reference, OK State recently:

Here is OSU’s top 10 season-ticket sales seasons:
1. 2013: 50,223

2. 2015: 49,412

3. 2012: 48,883

4. 2009: 45,455


2016 numbers were 43,728 at beginning of season

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/os...ad2b3.html



Just thought I would post this as this board often compares schools who would round out nicely if the SEC added OU.

I hate to ask for the Kansas numbers...
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(08-11-2017 10:51 AM)murrdcu Wrote:  http://wvmetronews.com/2017/08/11/west-v...ket-sales/


MORGANTOWN, W.Va. — West Virginia’s athletic department projects football season ticket sales to top out around 27,000, continuing a five-year decline.

The program has sold about 26,300 packages for its six-game home schedule, said Matt Wells, WVU’s senior associate athletic director. The three weeks leading up to the opener typically attracts an additional 500 to 1,000 buyers.

Priced at $365 with donations required for premium tiers, the package includes two home games against opponents in the preseason coaches poll, No. 11 Oklahoma State and No. 23 Texas. The Mountaineers, coming off a 10-win season, are ranked 20th.

West Virginia sold all 17,000 seats allotted for its highly anticipated neutral-site opener against Virginia Tech, which was not part of the season ticket package.

West Virginia football season tickets

Year Sales No. games Cost
2017 27,000* 6 games $365
2016 28,035 7 games $395
2015 28,837 7 games $395
2014 29,553 6 games $365
2013 33,623 6 games $365
2012 37,341 7 games $395

That 2012 surge, created by the frenzy of WVU joining a new conference and building off the Orange Bowl demolition of Clemson, may never be matched. The television experience is so crisp and convenient that many Power 5 programs struggle to gain offseason commitments. (To that end, West Virginia is adding a new video board to the north end zone and has completed its second phase of stadium concourse renovations.)


This might hurt future evaluations; capacity ~ 60k.

I know TV is better than it's ever been, but everyone's dealing with that. That's not a good sign if the numbers are steadily declining.

Did you check their overall attendance?
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(08-11-2017 11:55 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(08-11-2017 10:51 AM)murrdcu Wrote:  http://wvmetronews.com/2017/08/11/west-v...ket-sales/


MORGANTOWN, W.Va. — West Virginia’s athletic department projects football season ticket sales to top out around 27,000, continuing a five-year decline.

The program has sold about 26,300 packages for its six-game home schedule, said Matt Wells, WVU’s senior associate athletic director. The three weeks leading up to the opener typically attracts an additional 500 to 1,000 buyers.

Priced at $365 with donations required for premium tiers, the package includes two home games against opponents in the preseason coaches poll, No. 11 Oklahoma State and No. 23 Texas. The Mountaineers, coming off a 10-win season, are ranked 20th.

West Virginia sold all 17,000 seats allotted for its highly anticipated neutral-site opener against Virginia Tech, which was not part of the season ticket package.

West Virginia football season tickets

Year Sales No. games Cost
2017 27,000* 6 games $365
2016 28,035 7 games $395
2015 28,837 7 games $395
2014 29,553 6 games $365
2013 33,623 6 games $365
2012 37,341 7 games $395

That 2012 surge, created by the frenzy of WVU joining a new conference and building off the Orange Bowl demolition of Clemson, may never be matched. The television experience is so crisp and convenient that many Power 5 programs struggle to gain offseason commitments. (To that end, West Virginia is adding a new video board to the north end zone and has completed its second phase of stadium concourse renovations.)


This might hurt future evaluations; capacity ~ 60k.

I know TV is better than it's ever been, but everyone's dealing with that. That's not a good sign if the numbers are steadily declining.

Did you check their overall attendance?

Trying to keep this to season tickets as this is the baseline for all athletic funds
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RE: Oops: WVU season ticket sales down for a 5th yr in a row
(08-11-2017 11:55 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(08-11-2017 10:51 AM)murrdcu Wrote:  http://wvmetronews.com/2017/08/11/west-v...ket-sales/


MORGANTOWN, W.Va. — West Virginia’s athletic department projects football season ticket sales to top out around 27,000, continuing a five-year decline.

The program has sold about 26,300 packages for its six-game home schedule, said Matt Wells, WVU’s senior associate athletic director. The three weeks leading up to the opener typically attracts an additional 500 to 1,000 buyers.

Priced at $365 with donations required for premium tiers, the package includes two home games against opponents in the preseason coaches poll, No. 11 Oklahoma State and No. 23 Texas. The Mountaineers, coming off a 10-win season, are ranked 20th.

West Virginia sold all 17,000 seats allotted for its highly anticipated neutral-site opener against Virginia Tech, which was not part of the season ticket package.

West Virginia football season tickets

Year Sales No. games Cost
2017 27,000* 6 games $365
2016 28,035 7 games $395
2015 28,837 7 games $395
2014 29,553 6 games $365
2013 33,623 6 games $365
2012 37,341 7 games $395

That 2012 surge, created by the frenzy of WVU joining a new conference and building off the Orange Bowl demolition of Clemson, may never be matched. The television experience is so crisp and convenient that many Power 5 programs struggle to gain offseason commitments. (To that end, West Virginia is adding a new video board to the north end zone and has completed its second phase of stadium concourse renovations.)


This might hurt future evaluations; capacity ~ 60k.

I know TV is better than it's ever been, but everyone's dealing with that. That's not a good sign if the numbers are steadily declining.

Did you check their overall attendance?

There are several key pieces of information in the OP.

1. Perhaps the most revealing is the price of a season ticket book. It is almost $200 a book cheaper than the average SEC ticket book. So Eer fans would have to essentially double their ticket investment if the joined the SEC. They would be roughly in line at most ACC venues.

2. As a state West Virginia continues to bleed population and mostly because of a lack of jobs and the Federal Governments curtailments for coal mining.

3. West Virginia is one of the poorer states which means that non alums would have a more difficult time affording tickets.

4. Not mentioned is the fact that most ticket packages in the SEC are required purchases if you want away tickets. Since W.V.U. is an outlier in the Big 12 I seriously doubt the demand for away tickets is that great. Flying automatically makes an away game too pricey for most fans.

5. The shine is definitely off of the Big 12 for the Eers. I would have to think that being in a conference that is constantly rumored to be breaking apart takes a toll on paying big dollars to participate and stay interested.
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(08-11-2017 11:28 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(08-11-2017 11:18 AM)murrdcu Wrote:  For reference, OK State recently:

Here is OSU’s top 10 season-ticket sales seasons:
1. 2013: 50,223

2. 2015: 49,412

3. 2012: 48,883

4. 2009: 45,455


2016 numbers were 43,728 at beginning of season

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/os...ad2b3.html



Just thought I would post this as this board often compares schools who would round out nicely if the SEC added OU.

I hate to ask for the Kansas numbers...

Having trouble with the google searches :(
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(08-11-2017 01:04 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  
(08-11-2017 11:28 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(08-11-2017 11:18 AM)murrdcu Wrote:  For reference, OK State recently:

Here is OSU’s top 10 season-ticket sales seasons:
1. 2013: 50,223

2. 2015: 49,412

3. 2012: 48,883

4. 2009: 45,455


2016 numbers were 43,728 at beginning of season

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/os...ad2b3.html



Just thought I would post this as this board often compares schools who would round out nicely if the SEC added OU.

I hate to ask for the Kansas numbers...

Having trouble with the google searches :(

Kansas's average attendance last year was 25,828 per game. There were 18 G5 schools with higher attendance averages ahead of them.

I couldn't find the info on season ticket sales but I am willing to bet that it was around 25,828 and that they actually had fewer in actual attendance. Most of these schools (including ours) count sold tickets and not a turnstile count of actual attendance.
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(08-11-2017 12:20 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(08-11-2017 11:55 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(08-11-2017 10:51 AM)murrdcu Wrote:  http://wvmetronews.com/2017/08/11/west-v...ket-sales/


MORGANTOWN, W.Va. — West Virginia’s athletic department projects football season ticket sales to top out around 27,000, continuing a five-year decline.

The program has sold about 26,300 packages for its six-game home schedule, said Matt Wells, WVU’s senior associate athletic director. The three weeks leading up to the opener typically attracts an additional 500 to 1,000 buyers.

Priced at $365 with donations required for premium tiers, the package includes two home games against opponents in the preseason coaches poll, No. 11 Oklahoma State and No. 23 Texas. The Mountaineers, coming off a 10-win season, are ranked 20th.

West Virginia sold all 17,000 seats allotted for its highly anticipated neutral-site opener against Virginia Tech, which was not part of the season ticket package.

West Virginia football season tickets

Year Sales No. games Cost
2017 27,000* 6 games $365
2016 28,035 7 games $395
2015 28,837 7 games $395
2014 29,553 6 games $365
2013 33,623 6 games $365
2012 37,341 7 games $395

That 2012 surge, created by the frenzy of WVU joining a new conference and building off the Orange Bowl demolition of Clemson, may never be matched. The television experience is so crisp and convenient that many Power 5 programs struggle to gain offseason commitments. (To that end, West Virginia is adding a new video board to the north end zone and has completed its second phase of stadium concourse renovations.)


This might hurt future evaluations; capacity ~ 60k.

I know TV is better than it's ever been, but everyone's dealing with that. That's not a good sign if the numbers are steadily declining.

Did you check their overall attendance?

There are several key pieces of information in the OP.

1. Perhaps the most revealing is the price of a season ticket book. It is almost $200 a book cheaper than the average SEC ticket book. So Eer fans would have to essentially double their ticket investment if the joined the SEC. They would be roughly in line at most ACC venues.

2. As a state West Virginia continues to bleed population and mostly because of a lack of jobs and the Federal Governments curtailments for coal mining.

3. West Virginia is one of the poorer states which means that non alums would have a more difficult time affording tickets.

4. Not mentioned is the fact that most ticket packages in the SEC are required purchases if you want away tickets. Since W.V.U. is an outlier in the Big 12 I seriously doubt the demand for away tickets is that great. Flying automatically makes an away game too pricey for most fans.

5. The shine is definitely off of the Big 12 for the Eers. I would have to think that being in a conference that is constantly rumored to be breaking apart takes a toll on paying big dollars to participate and stay interested.

I was thinking that sounded pretty cheap. I've never actually bought season tickets before though so I wasn't sure how to compare.

I do think the interest of WVU fans would be higher in the SEC as they would have some regional rivals, but that would be more a function of the SEC improving the stats at WVU than the other way around.

The ACC would probably do about the same for them as far as interest goes and they would have more schools that they have a tradition of playing.
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Those prices are comparable to what we pay in Chapel Hill.
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(08-11-2017 01:54 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(08-11-2017 12:20 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(08-11-2017 11:55 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(08-11-2017 10:51 AM)murrdcu Wrote:  http://wvmetronews.com/2017/08/11/west-v...ket-sales/


MORGANTOWN, W.Va. — West Virginia’s athletic department projects football season ticket sales to top out around 27,000, continuing a five-year decline.

The program has sold about 26,300 packages for its six-game home schedule, said Matt Wells, WVU’s senior associate athletic director. The three weeks leading up to the opener typically attracts an additional 500 to 1,000 buyers.

Priced at $365 with donations required for premium tiers, the package includes two home games against opponents in the preseason coaches poll, No. 11 Oklahoma State and No. 23 Texas. The Mountaineers, coming off a 10-win season, are ranked 20th.

West Virginia sold all 17,000 seats allotted for its highly anticipated neutral-site opener against Virginia Tech, which was not part of the season ticket package.

West Virginia football season tickets

Year Sales No. games Cost
2017 27,000* 6 games $365
2016 28,035 7 games $395
2015 28,837 7 games $395
2014 29,553 6 games $365
2013 33,623 6 games $365
2012 37,341 7 games $395

That 2012 surge, created by the frenzy of WVU joining a new conference and building off the Orange Bowl demolition of Clemson, may never be matched. The television experience is so crisp and convenient that many Power 5 programs struggle to gain offseason commitments. (To that end, West Virginia is adding a new video board to the north end zone and has completed its second phase of stadium concourse renovations.)


This might hurt future evaluations; capacity ~ 60k.

I know TV is better than it's ever been, but everyone's dealing with that. That's not a good sign if the numbers are steadily declining.

Did you check their overall attendance?

There are several key pieces of information in the OP.

1. Perhaps the most revealing is the price of a season ticket book. It is almost $200 a book cheaper than the average SEC ticket book. So Eer fans would have to essentially double their ticket investment if the joined the SEC. They would be roughly in line at most ACC venues.

2. As a state West Virginia continues to bleed population and mostly because of a lack of jobs and the Federal Governments curtailments for coal mining.

3. West Virginia is one of the poorer states which means that non alums would have a more difficult time affording tickets.

4. Not mentioned is the fact that most ticket packages in the SEC are required purchases if you want away tickets. Since W.V.U. is an outlier in the Big 12 I seriously doubt the demand for away tickets is that great. Flying automatically makes an away game too pricey for most fans.

5. The shine is definitely off of the Big 12 for the Eers. I would have to think that being in a conference that is constantly rumored to be breaking apart takes a toll on paying big dollars to participate and stay interested.

I was thinking that sounded pretty cheap. I've never actually bought season tickets before though so I wasn't sure how to compare.

I do think the interest of WVU fans would be higher in the SEC as they would have some regional rivals, but that would be more a function of the SEC improving the stats at WVU than the other way around.

The ACC would probably do about the same for them as far as interest goes and they would have more schools that they have a tradition of playing.

BTW JR, the only non-BE ACC team that has any history with West Virginia is UVa (22 games). The other original ACC teams all average fewer than 4 games, and that's only that high because State has played them 10 times.
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(08-11-2017 12:20 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(08-11-2017 11:55 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(08-11-2017 10:51 AM)murrdcu Wrote:  http://wvmetronews.com/2017/08/11/west-v...ket-sales/


MORGANTOWN, W.Va. — West Virginia’s athletic department projects football season ticket sales to top out around 27,000, continuing a five-year decline.

The program has sold about 26,300 packages for its six-game home schedule, said Matt Wells, WVU’s senior associate athletic director. The three weeks leading up to the opener typically attracts an additional 500 to 1,000 buyers.

Priced at $365 with donations required for premium tiers, the package includes two home games against opponents in the preseason coaches poll, No. 11 Oklahoma State and No. 23 Texas. The Mountaineers, coming off a 10-win season, are ranked 20th.

West Virginia sold all 17,000 seats allotted for its highly anticipated neutral-site opener against Virginia Tech, which was not part of the season ticket package.

West Virginia football season tickets

Year Sales No. games Cost
2017 27,000* 6 games $365
2016 28,035 7 games $395
2015 28,837 7 games $395
2014 29,553 6 games $365
2013 33,623 6 games $365
2012 37,341 7 games $395

That 2012 surge, created by the frenzy of WVU joining a new conference and building off the Orange Bowl demolition of Clemson, may never be matched. The television experience is so crisp and convenient that many Power 5 programs struggle to gain offseason commitments. (To that end, West Virginia is adding a new video board to the north end zone and has completed its second phase of stadium concourse renovations.)


This might hurt future evaluations; capacity ~ 60k.

I know TV is better than it's ever been, but everyone's dealing with that. That's not a good sign if the numbers are steadily declining.

Did you check their overall attendance?

There are several key pieces of information in the OP.

1. Perhaps the most revealing is the price of a season ticket book. It is almost $200 a book cheaper than the average SEC ticket book. So Eer fans would have to essentially double their ticket investment if the joined the SEC. They would be roughly in line at most ACC venues.

2. As a state West Virginia continues to bleed population and mostly because of a lack of jobs and the Federal Governments curtailments for coal mining.

3. West Virginia is one of the poorer states which means that non alums would have a more difficult time affording tickets.

4. Not mentioned is the fact that most ticket packages in the SEC are required purchases if you want away tickets. Since W.V.U. is an outlier in the Big 12 I seriously doubt the demand for away tickets is that great. Flying automatically makes an away game too pricey for most fans.

5. The shine is definitely off of the Big 12 for the Eers. I would have to think that being in a conference that is constantly rumored to be breaking apart takes a toll on paying big dollars to participate and stay interested.

I'd like to piggyback this.

1, How much is the donation for the privilege to even buy the tickets?
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(08-11-2017 03:40 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  
(08-11-2017 12:20 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(08-11-2017 11:55 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(08-11-2017 10:51 AM)murrdcu Wrote:  http://wvmetronews.com/2017/08/11/west-v...ket-sales/


MORGANTOWN, W.Va. — West Virginia’s athletic department projects football season ticket sales to top out around 27,000, continuing a five-year decline.

The program has sold about 26,300 packages for its six-game home schedule, said Matt Wells, WVU’s senior associate athletic director. The three weeks leading up to the opener typically attracts an additional 500 to 1,000 buyers.

Priced at $365 with donations required for premium tiers, the package includes two home games against opponents in the preseason coaches poll, No. 11 Oklahoma State and No. 23 Texas. The Mountaineers, coming off a 10-win season, are ranked 20th.

West Virginia sold all 17,000 seats allotted for its highly anticipated neutral-site opener against Virginia Tech, which was not part of the season ticket package.

West Virginia football season tickets

Year Sales No. games Cost
2017 27,000* 6 games $365
2016 28,035 7 games $395
2015 28,837 7 games $395
2014 29,553 6 games $365
2013 33,623 6 games $365
2012 37,341 7 games $395

That 2012 surge, created by the frenzy of WVU joining a new conference and building off the Orange Bowl demolition of Clemson, may never be matched. The television experience is so crisp and convenient that many Power 5 programs struggle to gain offseason commitments. (To that end, West Virginia is adding a new video board to the north end zone and has completed its second phase of stadium concourse renovations.)


This might hurt future evaluations; capacity ~ 60k.

I know TV is better than it's ever been, but everyone's dealing with that. That's not a good sign if the numbers are steadily declining.

Did you check their overall attendance?

There are several key pieces of information in the OP.

1. Perhaps the most revealing is the price of a season ticket book. It is almost $200 a book cheaper than the average SEC ticket book. So Eer fans would have to essentially double their ticket investment if the joined the SEC. They would be roughly in line at most ACC venues.

2. As a state West Virginia continues to bleed population and mostly because of a lack of jobs and the Federal Governments curtailments for coal mining.

3. West Virginia is one of the poorer states which means that non alums would have a more difficult time affording tickets.

4. Not mentioned is the fact that most ticket packages in the SEC are required purchases if you want away tickets. Since W.V.U. is an outlier in the Big 12 I seriously doubt the demand for away tickets is that great. Flying automatically makes an away game too pricey for most fans.

5. The shine is definitely off of the Big 12 for the Eers. I would have to think that being in a conference that is constantly rumored to be breaking apart takes a toll on paying big dollars to participate and stay interested.

I'd like to piggyback this.

1, How much is the donation for the privilege to even buy the tickets?

Well the OP did say they had to donate to get premium seating. So that is a huge difference right there from having to contribute $800 just to get a pair in the end zone at most SEC venues.

So that's another great point!
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(08-11-2017 02:26 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(08-11-2017 01:54 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(08-11-2017 12:20 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(08-11-2017 11:55 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(08-11-2017 10:51 AM)murrdcu Wrote:  http://wvmetronews.com/2017/08/11/west-v...ket-sales/


MORGANTOWN, W.Va. — West Virginia’s athletic department projects football season ticket sales to top out around 27,000, continuing a five-year decline.

The program has sold about 26,300 packages for its six-game home schedule, said Matt Wells, WVU’s senior associate athletic director. The three weeks leading up to the opener typically attracts an additional 500 to 1,000 buyers.

Priced at $365 with donations required for premium tiers, the package includes two home games against opponents in the preseason coaches poll, No. 11 Oklahoma State and No. 23 Texas. The Mountaineers, coming off a 10-win season, are ranked 20th.

West Virginia sold all 17,000 seats allotted for its highly anticipated neutral-site opener against Virginia Tech, which was not part of the season ticket package.

West Virginia football season tickets

Year Sales No. games Cost
2017 27,000* 6 games $365
2016 28,035 7 games $395
2015 28,837 7 games $395
2014 29,553 6 games $365
2013 33,623 6 games $365
2012 37,341 7 games $395

That 2012 surge, created by the frenzy of WVU joining a new conference and building off the Orange Bowl demolition of Clemson, may never be matched. The television experience is so crisp and convenient that many Power 5 programs struggle to gain offseason commitments. (To that end, West Virginia is adding a new video board to the north end zone and has completed its second phase of stadium concourse renovations.)


This might hurt future evaluations; capacity ~ 60k.

I know TV is better than it's ever been, but everyone's dealing with that. That's not a good sign if the numbers are steadily declining.

Did you check their overall attendance?

There are several key pieces of information in the OP.

1. Perhaps the most revealing is the price of a season ticket book. It is almost $200 a book cheaper than the average SEC ticket book. So Eer fans would have to essentially double their ticket investment if the joined the SEC. They would be roughly in line at most ACC venues.

2. As a state West Virginia continues to bleed population and mostly because of a lack of jobs and the Federal Governments curtailments for coal mining.

3. West Virginia is one of the poorer states which means that non alums would have a more difficult time affording tickets.

4. Not mentioned is the fact that most ticket packages in the SEC are required purchases if you want away tickets. Since W.V.U. is an outlier in the Big 12 I seriously doubt the demand for away tickets is that great. Flying automatically makes an away game too pricey for most fans.

5. The shine is definitely off of the Big 12 for the Eers. I would have to think that being in a conference that is constantly rumored to be breaking apart takes a toll on paying big dollars to participate and stay interested.

I was thinking that sounded pretty cheap. I've never actually bought season tickets before though so I wasn't sure how to compare.

I do think the interest of WVU fans would be higher in the SEC as they would have some regional rivals, but that would be more a function of the SEC improving the stats at WVU than the other way around.

The ACC would probably do about the same for them as far as interest goes and they would have more schools that they have a tradition of playing.

BTW JR, the only non-BE ACC team that has any history with West Virginia is UVa (22 games). The other original ACC teams all average fewer than 4 games, and that's only that high because State has played them 10 times.

These days saying WVU has no rivalry with "non BE" ACC is like saying Texas would have none with SEC teams that were never in the Big XII or SWC - technically true, but there's the #1 rival (A&M) and another former rival (Arkansas).

WVU's 2 biggest rivals are both in the ACC.
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RE: Oops: WVU season ticket sales down for a 5th yr in a row
(08-12-2017 06:35 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(08-11-2017 02:26 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(08-11-2017 01:54 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(08-11-2017 12:20 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(08-11-2017 11:55 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  I know TV is better than it's ever been, but everyone's dealing with that. That's not a good sign if the numbers are steadily declining.

Did you check their overall attendance?

There are several key pieces of information in the OP.

1. Perhaps the most revealing is the price of a season ticket book. It is almost $200 a book cheaper than the average SEC ticket book. So Eer fans would have to essentially double their ticket investment if the joined the SEC. They would be roughly in line at most ACC venues.

2. As a state West Virginia continues to bleed population and mostly because of a lack of jobs and the Federal Governments curtailments for coal mining.

3. West Virginia is one of the poorer states which means that non alums would have a more difficult time affording tickets.

4. Not mentioned is the fact that most ticket packages in the SEC are required purchases if you want away tickets. Since W.V.U. is an outlier in the Big 12 I seriously doubt the demand for away tickets is that great. Flying automatically makes an away game too pricey for most fans.

5. The shine is definitely off of the Big 12 for the Eers. I would have to think that being in a conference that is constantly rumored to be breaking apart takes a toll on paying big dollars to participate and stay interested.

I was thinking that sounded pretty cheap. I've never actually bought season tickets before though so I wasn't sure how to compare.

I do think the interest of WVU fans would be higher in the SEC as they would have some regional rivals, but that would be more a function of the SEC improving the stats at WVU than the other way around.

The ACC would probably do about the same for them as far as interest goes and they would have more schools that they have a tradition of playing.

BTW JR, the only non-BE ACC team that has any history with West Virginia is UVa (22 games). The other original ACC teams all average fewer than 4 games, and that's only that high because State has played them 10 times.

These days saying WVU has no rivalry with "non BE" ACC is like saying Texas would have none with SEC teams that were never in the Big XII or SWC - technically true, but there's the #1 rival (A&M) and another former rival (Arkansas).

WVU's 2 biggest rivals are both in the ACC.

sPitt and VT are wvu's biggest rivals. I'm still surprised UVA played as many games against the errs as they did considering the states' histories.

No a side note: I hope all UVA students remain safe this weekend as nazi protests take over their town. Could y'all imagine the public image hit the SEC would take if that event occurred around a sec campus?
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