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RE: Liberty Schedule
(08-01-2017 08:51 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  
(07-31-2017 08:00 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  No interest. Not a big enough name to attract a crowd for us
It's debatable that Liberty has "Not a big enough name to attract a crowd...". The lightning rod that Liberty is, and will be in the future, will generate interest as the "must win", "must not lose game" for most all SBC teams due to the past 5 years of the LU/SBC discussions.

Using the name logic, when LU becomes a "bigger name" then it would be appropriate for SBC teams to play LU?

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RE: Liberty Schedule
(08-01-2017 08:51 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  
(07-31-2017 08:00 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  No interest. Not a big enough name to attract a crowd for us
It's debatable that Liberty has "Not a big enough name to attract a crowd...". The lightning rod that Liberty is, and will be in the future, will generate interest as the "must win", "must not lose game" for most all SBC teams due to the past 5 years of the LU/SBC discussions.

Using the name logic, when LU becomes a "bigger name" then it would be appropriate for SBC teams to play LU?

Most people around here don't know you guys exist.
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RE: Liberty Schedule
(08-01-2017 12:22 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  
(07-31-2017 08:00 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  No interest. Not a big enough name to attract a crowd for us

I feel similarly but if that's the only reason for scheduling anyone then we shouldn't be in a conference with y'all. I'm pretty sure 3 FCS teams have had bigger crowds at TXST than any Sun Belt team and I doubt we're a draw for any of y'all.


Texas State and Georgia State don't attract crowds here either, but as a conference series there is at least a chance a rivalry could be built.


Not happening with Liberty
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I'm good with GS playing Liberty in a H&H but doing so doesn't fit the conference scheduling philosophy which is 1 P5 money game, 2 H&H with peer conferences and 1 FCS game. Scheduling an independent will not help us as a conference win or lose.
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RE: Liberty Schedule
(08-01-2017 01:38 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(08-01-2017 08:51 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  
(07-31-2017 08:00 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  No interest. Not a big enough name to attract a crowd for us
It's debatable that Liberty has "Not a big enough name to attract a crowd...". The lightning rod that Liberty is, and will be in the future, will generate interest as the "must win", "must not lose game" for most all SBC teams due to the past 5 years of the LU/SBC discussions.

Using the name logic, when LU becomes a "bigger name" then it would be appropriate for SBC teams to play LU?

Most people around here don't know you guys exist.
And the SBC schools have a similar recognition, or lack of recognition challenge as LU may have. Most fans in the eastern section of the country know very little about the SBC and the member schools. It would be safe to say that the position and desire of LU to gain FBS recognition will be easier for LU to achieve than SBC schools. The reasons and excuses have been mentioned thousands of times with the hundreds of threads about LU with no need to rehash here

The 'bigger name" mention just seemed inconsistent and a wayward statement. If it is so, what would it entail to achieve "bigger name" status?
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1 playoff appearance in 40 years... WORLD BEATERS!

Liberty, proof money and no accomplishments can get you anything in life.
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(08-01-2017 11:02 AM)Ewglenn Wrote:  
(08-01-2017 09:08 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  If we get a deal like some of the other teams I say heck yes. I would do it if they just covered travel costs. As far as straight up I dont know yet lets see how they travel.

What "other teams"? ODU got the money so they could move around the schedule. LU got like 6 games out of that one deal. They haven't paid anyone else to my knowledge.

They're taking reduced guarantees from VT (and likely UVA) to travel there.
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(08-01-2017 01:42 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  I'm good with GS playing Liberty in a H&H but doing so doesn't fit the conference scheduling philosophy which is 1 P5 money game, 2 H&H with peer conferences and 1 FCS game. Scheduling an independent will not help us as a conference win or lose.


good point it doesn't help the conference
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We are avoiding Independents now too for the sake of the league?

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(08-02-2017 09:18 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  We are avoiding Independents now too for the sake of the league?

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Well yes if your AD is following Benson's scheduling philosophy.
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(08-02-2017 09:30 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(08-02-2017 09:18 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  We are avoiding Independents now too for the sake of the league?

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Well yes if your AD is following Benson's scheduling philosophy.


I hope ND doesn’t have a date they need filled.


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RE: Liberty Schedule
(08-02-2017 09:31 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(08-02-2017 09:30 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(08-02-2017 09:18 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  We are avoiding Independents now too for the sake of the league?

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Well yes if your AD is following Benson's scheduling philosophy.


I hope ND doesn’t have a date they need filled.


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Why ND would fit into the leagues stated scheduling philosophy since it would be a money game?
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(08-02-2017 09:35 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(08-02-2017 09:31 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(08-02-2017 09:30 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(08-02-2017 09:18 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  We are avoiding Independents now too for the sake of the league?

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Well yes if your AD is following Benson's scheduling philosophy.


I hope ND doesn’t have a date they need filled.


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Why ND would fit into the leagues stated scheduling philosophy since it would be a money game?


But but....which rule wins. Money or no Independent?




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Any of you goofs, Karl included, who think we should not accept Home and homes with the likes of Army are dumber than anyone ever imagined.


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RE: Liberty Schedule
(08-01-2017 01:50 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  
(08-01-2017 01:38 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(08-01-2017 08:51 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  
(07-31-2017 08:00 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  No interest. Not a big enough name to attract a crowd for us
It's debatable that Liberty has "Not a big enough name to attract a crowd...". The lightning rod that Liberty is, and will be in the future, will generate interest as the "must win", "must not lose game" for most all SBC teams due to the past 5 years of the LU/SBC discussions.

Using the name logic, when LU becomes a "bigger name" then it would be appropriate for SBC teams to play LU?

Most people around here don't know you guys exist.
And the SBC schools have a similar recognition, or lack of recognition challenge as LU may have. Most fans in the eastern section of the country know very little about the SBC and the member schools. It would be safe to say that the position and desire of LU to gain FBS recognition will be easier for LU to achieve than SBC schools. The reasons and excuses have been mentioned thousands of times with the hundreds of threads about LU with no need to rehash here

The 'bigger name" mention just seemed inconsistent and a wayward statement. If it is so, what would it entail to achieve "bigger name" status?

We are very specific in who we'll bring in for home games:

1. P5's
2. Big Name G5's
3. Regional G5's
4. Regional FCS

If you look at our future home schedule (Which is booked solid until 2022) Every single home game hits one of those markers, except a long agreed to series with UNLV, which was done at a time when we had a ton of home games to fill.

If the visiting team is not going to travel (and you guys wouldn't) then they have to be of sufficient quality and name to bring more casual fans in. You guys just don't hit those markers...sorry.
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RE: Liberty Schedule
(08-02-2017 09:31 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(08-02-2017 09:30 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(08-02-2017 09:18 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  We are avoiding Independents now too for the sake of the league?

Good Lord


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Well yes if your AD is following Benson's scheduling philosophy.


I hope ND doesn’t have a date they need filled.


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Didn't Mohajir turn down a series with ND recently because they wouldn't hit our guarantee requirements, and wouldn't offer a home game?
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(08-02-2017 10:10 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(08-02-2017 09:31 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(08-02-2017 09:30 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(08-02-2017 09:18 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  We are avoiding Independents now too for the sake of the league?

Good Lord


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Well yes if your AD is following Benson's scheduling philosophy.


I hope ND doesn’t have a date they need filled.


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Didn't Mohajir turn down a series with ND recently because they wouldn't hit our guarantee requirements, and wouldn't offer a home game?


Not that I’d heard.

However if they won’t pay our minimum or give us a home game, he’s not going to schedule them.




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RE: Liberty Schedule
(08-02-2017 10:12 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(08-02-2017 10:10 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(08-02-2017 09:31 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(08-02-2017 09:30 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(08-02-2017 09:18 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  We are avoiding Independents now too for the sake of the league?

Good Lord


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Well yes if your AD is following Benson's scheduling philosophy.


I hope ND doesn’t have a date they need filled.


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Didn't Mohajir turn down a series with ND recently because they wouldn't hit our guarantee requirements, and wouldn't offer a home game?


Not that I’d heard.

However if they won’t pay our minimum or give us a home game, he’s not going to schedule them.




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I'm pretty sure he mentioned it in an interview about a year ago.

I don't think he has an issue with scheduling independents, he just wants to make sure we make money off the home game. If we can get regional AAC schools easily, which we appear to be doing, why play Liberty?
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(08-02-2017 10:16 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(08-02-2017 10:12 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(08-02-2017 10:10 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(08-02-2017 09:31 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(08-02-2017 09:30 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  Well yes if your AD is following Benson's scheduling philosophy.


I hope ND doesn’t have a date they need filled.


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Didn't Mohajir turn down a series with ND recently because they wouldn't hit our guarantee requirements, and wouldn't offer a home game?


Not that I’d heard.

However if they won’t pay our minimum or give us a home game, he’s not going to schedule them.




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I'm pretty sure he mentioned it in an interview about a year ago.

I don't think he has an issue with scheduling independents, he just wants to make sure we make money off the home game. If we can get regional AAC schools easily, which we appear to be doing, why play Liberty?


Sure, we have no need to reach for games.

To say some in this league need to X independents from future schedules is insane when we know there are teams in this league who have a hard time getting home games.

Texas State is about to have a real close one, so does that make it acceptable for them to schedule NMSU because it’s a regional independent?


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RE: Liberty Schedule
(08-02-2017 10:21 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(08-02-2017 10:16 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(08-02-2017 10:12 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(08-02-2017 10:10 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(08-02-2017 09:31 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  I hope ND doesn’t have a date they need filled.


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Didn't Mohajir turn down a series with ND recently because they wouldn't hit our guarantee requirements, and wouldn't offer a home game?


Not that I’d heard.

However if they won’t pay our minimum or give us a home game, he’s not going to schedule them.




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I'm pretty sure he mentioned it in an interview about a year ago.

I don't think he has an issue with scheduling independents, he just wants to make sure we make money off the home game. If we can get regional AAC schools easily, which we appear to be doing, why play Liberty?


Sure, we have no need to reach for games.

To say some in this league need to X independents from future schedules is insane when we know there are teams in this league who have a hard time getting home games.

Texas State is about to have a real close one, so does that make it acceptable for them to schedule NMSU because it’s a regional independent?


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I assume this is directed at my comments (or at Karl) but for my part if you re-read them I said I have no problem with playing independents. However I personally listened to Karl tell reporters that the SUN BELT'S scheduling philosophy is 1 P5 money game, 2 H&H with PEER conference teams and 1 FCS.
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