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Impossible, we had the #1 ranked recruiting class for 3 straight years, we're loaded at the most important position on the field......right????

(07-19-2017 06:39 PM)Potro Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 05:29 PM)flushtheherd Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 05:10 PM)Potro Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 05:01 PM)flushtheherd Wrote:  Tell me how many times Flacco was asked to throw the ball ALL last year... even when defenses were telegraphing the fact he was going to run. His last pass I can remember was a lame duck in the Bahamas bowl that Corey made a huge adjustment to come back and grab. No... not a big jump at all... a reality.

Your right. Flacco was not allowed to pass in 2016. Was that his fault? His stats the prior year were 10 of 13 for 188 yards with no interceptions. So obviously he can be an efficient passer.

Come on now... you must understand the optics of those stats... low traffic swing passes and high confidence building play calliing... I saw it all. Flacco isn't a QB. He's an incredible athlete that PJ hoped was hoping could be a Lynch type option... didn't pan out. I'm happier knowing Flacco is moving on to something he's got more confidence with and opening the door here at WMU...

If the narrative fits your story, go for it.

The narrative seems to be reality as Wassink was defined as the starter by Lester... prompting Flacco to transfer.

Wasn't too surprised when I heard this news. It'll be interesting to see where he winds up (doubtful, but what if it's you-know-where).

Wassink will be alright. Sometimes you gotta jump in the fire, and USC is the inferno. Smelling like a lot of running and short/safe passes to get him and the RBs acclimated.

(07-19-2017 04:42 PM)Potro Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 09:42 AM)flushtheherd Wrote:  I think that this makes the transition easier... if I was to be honest here. The brief stints Flacco was in on offense last year showed that the coaching staff wasn't really confident in his arm and/or accuracy. Sure he has some nice elusive footwork but if you look at Wassink tape from HS he's no slouch back their either...

I think this gives the program a better step forward given that the coaches can now focus their energies on ONE QB and therefore can cater the offense to the necessary strengths... I wish Tom all the best going forward, but I didn't see him winning this position battle going forward...

You're making a big jump with that statement. Our prior coach left all the starters in as much as possibly and hardly gave backup's a chance. (Did we have a talented receiver last year who was not a senior?) It was more about padding a resume with convincing wins than the ability of any one player.

Yep. At the very least, Flacco and/or Wassink should've done the entire second half vs. NC Central.

I'm okay with this. Personally I never really wanted Flacco to be the QB. Just didn't see him as a guy that could throw it well enough to even be a minor threat in that regard.

The true freshmen are going to have to get ready in a hurry. And it's a great opportunity for them. Could be one hit away from starting.

When I spoke to Coach Lester in April, he felt that the QB battle would go down to the wire. But he also said that if Flacco was not the starter that he would probably transfer out. Personally I might have given Tom some quality playing time even if not the starter and tried to keep both guys. Flacco looked pretty darn good two years ago as a Freshman when given some snaps. I think he could have helped us and provided depth. Lester is such a great person that he might have encouraged Tom to leave now so that he could complete his career strong somewhere else?

Look. Flacco was here because the last group of guys coached his brother. If he wasn't a Flacco, he never would have been here. It's not like he was highly sought after. But in interviews, PJ could tout Joe Flacco's brother being here to make WMU seem more interesting.

Now that he had to actually play the QB position, reality set in that he just wasn't good enough.

If his last name wasn't Flacco nobody would give a ****.

(07-19-2017 08:38 PM)flushtheherd Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 06:39 PM)Potro Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 05:29 PM)flushtheherd Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 05:10 PM)Potro Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 05:01 PM)flushtheherd Wrote:  Tell me how many times Flacco was asked to throw the ball ALL last year... even when defenses were telegraphing the fact he was going to run. His last pass I can remember was a lame duck in the Bahamas bowl that Corey made a huge adjustment to come back and grab. No... not a big jump at all... a reality.

Your right. Flacco was not allowed to pass in 2016. Was that his fault? His stats the prior year were 10 of 13 for 188 yards with no interceptions. So obviously he can be an efficient passer.

Come on now... you must understand the optics of those stats... low traffic swing passes and high confidence building play calliing... I saw it all. Flacco isn't a QB. He's an incredible athlete that PJ hoped was hoping could be a Lynch type option... didn't pan out. I'm happier knowing Flacco is moving on to something he's got more confidence with and opening the door here at WMU...

If the narrative fits your story, go for it.

The narrative seems to be reality as Wassink was defined as the starter by Lester... prompting Flacco to transfer.

Lester announced Wassink as the starter after the announcement of Flacco leaving. Do you have some inside knowledge as to what went on behind the scenes, that supports your last statement?

(07-20-2017 06:24 AM)Potro Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 08:38 PM)flushtheherd Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 06:39 PM)Potro Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 05:29 PM)flushtheherd Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 05:10 PM)Potro Wrote:  Your right. Flacco was not allowed to pass in 2016. Was that his fault? His stats the prior year were 10 of 13 for 188 yards with no interceptions. So obviously he can be an efficient passer.

Come on now... you must understand the optics of those stats... low traffic swing passes and high confidence building play calliing... I saw it all. Flacco isn't a QB. He's an incredible athlete that PJ hoped was hoping could be a Lynch type option... didn't pan out. I'm happier knowing Flacco is moving on to something he's got more confidence with and opening the door here at WMU...

If the narrative fits your story, go for it.

The narrative seems to be reality as Wassink was defined as the starter by Lester... prompting Flacco to transfer.

Lester announced Wassink as the starter after the announcement of Flacco leaving. Do you have some inside knowledge as to what went on behind the scenes, that supports your last statement?

As Hoekjeness indicated in another thread - Jack Doles from WOODTV reported that Lester made Wassink the official starter and cited this as the reason Flacco left the program.

(07-19-2017 09:39 PM)Stampede your face!! Wrote:  I'm okay with this. Personally I never really wanted Flacco to be the QB. Just didn't see him as a guy that could throw it well enough to even be a minor threat in that regard.

The true freshmen are going to have to get ready in a hurry. And it's a great opportunity for them. Could be one hit away from starting.

I agree with this assessment.

The fact that Flacco quit on this team because he didn't get the starting spot speaks volumes. One hit away is right. Isn't that how Terrell got his start?

More than any other position, there's always that risk of a guy bolting if he loses the QB battle. It's the field general position, and a lot of ego and pride goes with it (and in Tom's case, his famous last name too). So when someone faces the reality of never taking a snap again unless the starter gets injured or it's 40-0 in the fourth quarter, they weigh options.

Not defending Flacco, in fact it's kinda poor form. But I understand.

(07-21-2017 12:54 AM)broncofan1 Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 09:39 PM)Stampede your face!! Wrote:  I'm okay with this. Personally I never really wanted Flacco to be the QB. Just didn't see him as a guy that could throw it well enough to even be a minor threat in that regard.

The true freshmen are going to have to get ready in a hurry. And it's a great opportunity for them. Could be one hit away from starting.

I agree with this assessment.

The fact that Flacco quit on this team because he didn't get the starting spot speaks volumes. One hit away is right. Isn't that how Terrell got his start?

You only get a few years to play. He wants to play..don't consider this quitting at all, especially in this day and age of college football

I don't blame Flacco at all for leaving. He could go excel at the FCS level right now, like his brother, or maybe decide to give baseball a shot. Either would be better options than holding a clipboard for his junior and senior seasons at WMU. Wish him the best and it was fun watching him for the small sample we did get to see.

(07-21-2017 12:20 PM)uclabruin Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 12:54 AM)broncofan1 Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 09:39 PM)Stampede your face!! Wrote:  I'm okay with this. Personally I never really wanted Flacco to be the QB. Just didn't see him as a guy that could throw it well enough to even be a minor threat in that regard.

The true freshmen are going to have to get ready in a hurry. And it's a great opportunity for them. Could be one hit away from starting.

I agree with this assessment.

The fact that Flacco quit on this team because he didn't get the starting spot speaks volumes. One hit away is right. Isn't that how Terrell got his start?

You only get a few years to play. He wants to play..don't consider this quitting at all, especially in this day and age of college football

I wish Flacco the best. He has been a good and loyal representative for WMU and has a championship ring to show for it. He put in the hours and effort. He earned it and owes WMU nothing.

As stated above, Flacco's window of opportunity to play college football is rapidly closing. He wants to be a starter, but it isn't going to happen at WMU.

Let him pursue his ambition somewhere else and appreciate what he's given our program the last few years.

Also, for all we know there could be more to this than football and playing time. He's a good kid. Sorry he is leaving, but expecting him to land on his feet.

(07-21-2017 01:27 PM)GullLake Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 12:20 PM)uclabruin Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 12:54 AM)broncofan1 Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 09:39 PM)Stampede your face!! Wrote:  I'm okay with this. Personally I never really wanted Flacco to be the QB. Just didn't see him as a guy that could throw it well enough to even be a minor threat in that regard.

The true freshmen are going to have to get ready in a hurry. And it's a great opportunity for them. Could be one hit away from starting.

I agree with this assessment.

The fact that Flacco quit on this team because he didn't get the starting spot speaks volumes. One hit away is right. Isn't that how Terrell got his start?

You only get a few years to play. He wants to play..don't consider this quitting at all, especially in this day and age of college football

I wish Flacco the best. He has been a good and loyal representative for WMU and has a championship ring to show for it. He put in the hours and effort. He earned it and owes WMU nothing.

As stated above, Flacco's window of opportunity to play college football is rapidly closing. He wants to be a starter, but it isn't going to happen at WMU.

Let him pursue his ambition somewhere else and appreciate what he's given our program the last few years.

Also, for all we know there could be more to this than football and playing time. He's a good kid. Sorry he is leaving, but expecting him to land on his feet.

Perfectly expressed

(07-21-2017 05:07 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  More than any other position, there's always that risk of a guy bolting if he loses the QB battle. It's the field general position, and a lot of ego and pride goes with it (and in Tom's case, his famous last name too). So when someone faces the reality of never taking a snap again unless the starter gets injured or it's 40-0 in the fourth quarter, they weigh options.

Not defending Flacco, in fact it's kinda poor form. But I understand.

Quarterbacks leave at the FBS level as soon as they lose the starting job. They want to play, not hold a clipboard for 3 years.

Word on the street is that Flacco is transferring to Rutgers.

^^^^^^

https://twitter.com/PardonMyTake/status/...3244912640

hope its a great fit for him and he does well. Thanks for being a Bronco

(07-20-2017 09:25 AM)flushtheherd Wrote:  

(07-20-2017 06:24 AM)Potro Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 08:38 PM)flushtheherd Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 06:39 PM)Potro Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 05:29 PM)flushtheherd Wrote:  Come on now... you must understand the optics of those stats... low traffic swing passes and high confidence building play calliing... I saw it all. Flacco isn't a QB. He's an incredible athlete that PJ hoped was hoping could be a Lynch type option... didn't pan out. I'm happier knowing Flacco is moving on to something he's got more confidence with and opening the door here at WMU...

If the narrative fits your story, go for it.

The narrative seems to be reality as Wassink was defined as the starter by Lester... prompting Flacco to transfer.

Lester announced Wassink as the starter after the announcement of Flacco leaving. Do you have some inside knowledge as to what went on behind the scenes, that supports your last statement?

As Hoekjeness indicated in another thread - Jack Doles from WOODTV reported that Lester made Wassink the official starter and cited this as the reason Flacco left the program.

Well.... Andy Pepper told a different story tonight on channel 3 sports. Said that Lester told him (Andy) that Flacco asked him who was going to be the starter this year, and his response was that he would make that decision a week before the USC game. Flacco was uncomfortable with the answer and decided to transfer. Then he (Lester) appointed Wassink the starter.

I'm inclined to believe Andy's version as he routinely covers WMU. Also, I checked Jack Doles twitter feed sometime ago and never saw any tweets on the Flacco/Wassink competition. I'll take what I hear directly as opposed to second hand news. Besides, channel 3 puts a lot more effort into covering WMU than any news outlet in Grand Rapids.