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(07-26-2017 01:13 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  Ok, so how many times in the last 10 years has Toledo been picked to win the MAC West?

And how many times have they won?

I think their last appearance in the MACC was in 2004. I have heard (have not verified so someone may prove me wrong) that there is only one other school that has not made it to the MACC since then. EMU

(07-27-2017 09:50 PM)Potro Wrote:  I think their last appearance in the MACC was in 2004. I have heard (have not verified so someone may prove me wrong) that there is only one other school that has not made it to the MACC since then. EMU

This is accurate.

Quote:However, you overlooked one major difference. New head coach and staff.

True. And the big-opener comparison: Although Wisconsin was #4 at the time -- they ended up being a good team, but going 4-4 in the B1G and #23 in the country (9-4). I see USC Definitely being in the Top 10, if not vying for the 4-team "playoff". And we have to go all-the-way-over-there, instead of standard-ops B1G/MAC country.

But at the same time, a good major point is that just because the QB hasn't played, doesn't mean, given whatever situation, can't perform as if he Did start a year prior (like Welsh executed). Thank Gawd we have Lester in this transition, who I assume is going to be helping out Wassink.