(08-06-2017 01:13 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 12:21 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 10:11 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Below was what a poster said and a few others came to his defense.

Quote:It won't be soon. He said he was waiting to see how the Tigers do during the conference part of the schedule.

Lomax never said that in print. He said he would wait till the beginning of winter but never mentioned conference play. That was the point that was being contradicted.

Of course at no point ever did I say he said it in print. I specifically said it was on a radio interview on 560 am when he and someone from team penny with him said it would be in the conference part of the schedule when he made a decision. Now, feel free to go over my post history and point out one time in my 9+ years of posting where I have ever just made something up. Of all times, why would I come out and say something like that about this one single player if it were not true, and then explain why it is that he is now saying he won't be signing in November... If he signs before conference play, then you can contradict me. WHEN he does not sign before conference play then you can come back and apologize for contradicting me.

1016 and memtigbb, I think you are both right, and I think it doesn't matter.

Alex Lomax is 17 years old. He'll probably change his mind 10 times before he announces. Parsing the difference between what he said months ago on the radio versus what he was quoted as saying in print just won't tell us much, IMO.

After we lost by 30 to UCF in the conference tourney, KJ said he would be back next year regardless of what Dedric decided. A month later he's headed to Kansas and saying "eff Tubby" on YouTube.

I have a 17 year old son. Trust me, he and his buddies change their minds a lot.

Good point. A 17 year old boy's mind is fixated on one thing. It is not choice of college.

(08-04-2017 12:58 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Is it a concern at all that Lomax stated he won't sign during the November signing period?

If you are Memphis, do you sign a PG during the November period (who isn't as good as Lomax) and still try for Lomax in the spring?

Do you sign three guys in November and just hope that "things work themselves out" and still try for Lomax in the spring?

Great question. For once, it's not fully loaded either.

(08-07-2017 05:10 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 12:58 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Is it a concern at all that Lomax stated he won't sign during the November signing period?

If you are Memphis, do you sign a PG during the November period (who isn't as good as Lomax) and still try for Lomax in the spring?

Do you sign three guys in November and just hope that "things work themselves out" and still try for Lomax in the spring?

Great question. For once, it's not fully loaded either.

Never are, unless one is a tinfoil hat wearing "agenda" type.

(08-07-2017 05:16 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 05:10 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 12:58 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Is it a concern at all that Lomax stated he won't sign during the November signing period?

If you are Memphis, do you sign a PG during the November period (who isn't as good as Lomax) and still try for Lomax in the spring?

Do you sign three guys in November and just hope that "things work themselves out" and still try for Lomax in the spring?

Great question. For once, it's not fully loaded either.

Never are, unless one is a tinfoil hat wearing "agenda" type.

And that is absolutely not true.

(08-06-2017 12:57 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 11:37 AM)EricSigEpTNBeta183 Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 10:11 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Below was what a poster said and a few others came to his defense.

Quote:It won't be soon. He said he was waiting to see how the Tigers do during the conference part of the schedule.

Lomax never said that in print. He said he would wait till the beginning of winter but never mentioned conference play. That was the point that was being contradicted.

Well the beginning of winter (Firday day Dec 21st) kinda coincides with the beginning of conference play. For example last year we open conference play on December 27 against SMU . So sure we'll call it the beginning of winter if you'd like.

Re-read the posts. The poster stated that Lomax would wait to see how the Tigers would do in conference play. Conference play starts late Dec and ends early March. Lomax did not state that. It was most likely a misunderstanding on the poster's part and others just clarified.

Winner! The original poster - bb, I guess - said Lomax would wait to see how we did in conference play. He never said that. He said he would wait until winter. Emphasis on waiting - not on how we do during AAC play. Totally different things.

(08-06-2017 11:46 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 11:37 AM)EricSigEpTNBeta183 Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 10:11 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Below was what a poster said and a few others came to his defense.

Quote:It won't be soon. He said he was waiting to see how the Tigers do during the conference part of the schedule.

Lomax never said that in print. He said he would wait till the beginning of winter but never mentioned conference play. That was the point that was being contradicted.

Well the beginning of winter (Firday day Dec 21st) kinda coincides with the beginning of conference play. For example last year we open conference play on December 27 against SMU . So sure we'll call it the beginning of winter if you'd like.

I guess my point was that he was pretty much correct. Not sure why people were debating when he was going to commit. Conference play, winter, all about the same. In short, he wasn't planning on committing anytime soon.

That said, he may change his mind and commit sooner or later. Just hope it's with us. It's a position we need filled, so I understand Tubby putting out offers. It's always a crapshoot when you wait on someone to commit. He could very easily pick another school and leave us empty handed and force us to choose from lesser players.

Out of curiosity (and not for sake of arguing), what would be the best course of action?

The best course of action is to sign Harris right away if you can, or to sign any decent recruit right away if you can. Even the most of the handful of posters that think that Tubby will turn it around, don't think we will be good this year.

Tubby can't be picky. If we aren't good, we only have room for 3 or 4 and we lose most of the roster after 2019, we are going to have a tough time signing anyone good.

Tubby has to do SOMETHING to build some kind of momentum, something to stop all of the bad stuff and the bad vibe around the program.

(08-07-2017 05:51 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 11:46 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 11:37 AM)EricSigEpTNBeta183 Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 10:11 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Below was what a poster said and a few others came to his defense.

Quote:It won't be soon. He said he was waiting to see how the Tigers do during the conference part of the schedule.

Lomax never said that in print. He said he would wait till the beginning of winter but never mentioned conference play. That was the point that was being contradicted.

Well the beginning of winter (Firday day Dec 21st) kinda coincides with the beginning of conference play. For example last year we open conference play on December 27 against SMU . So sure we'll call it the beginning of winter if you'd like.

I guess my point was that he was pretty much correct. Not sure why people were debating when he was going to commit. Conference play, winter, all about the same. In short, he wasn't planning on committing anytime soon.

That said, he may change his mind and commit sooner or later. Just hope it's with us. It's a position we need filled, so I understand Tubby putting out offers. It's always a crapshoot when you wait on someone to commit. He could very easily pick another school and leave us empty handed and force us to choose from lesser players.

Out of curiosity (and not for sake of arguing), what would be the best course of action?

The best course of action is to sign Harris right away if you can, or to sign any decent recruit right away if you can. Even the most of the handful of posters that think that Tubby will turn it around, don't think we will be good this year.

Tubby can't be picky. If we aren't good, we only have room for 3 or 4 and we lose most of the roster after 2019, we are going to have a tough time signing anyone good.

Tubby has to do SOMETHING to build some kind of momentum, something to stop all of the bad stuff and the bad vibe around the program.

Why can't he be picky? That's ridiculous. The bad vibe is coming from this board and local talk radio.

Again, the entire conference has signed 2 players. I trust Tubby's evaluation of talent. Signing junk players won't help a bit. Right now we have 3 spots, wait for good players..

He'd take Harris now, he just isn't ready to commit now.

(08-07-2017 06:01 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 05:51 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 11:46 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 11:37 AM)EricSigEpTNBeta183 Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 10:11 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Below was what a poster said and a few others came to his defense.


Lomax never said that in print. He said he would wait till the beginning of winter but never mentioned conference play. That was the point that was being contradicted.

Well the beginning of winter (Firday day Dec 21st) kinda coincides with the beginning of conference play. For example last year we open conference play on December 27 against SMU . So sure we'll call it the beginning of winter if you'd like.

I guess my point was that he was pretty much correct. Not sure why people were debating when he was going to commit. Conference play, winter, all about the same. In short, he wasn't planning on committing anytime soon.

That said, he may change his mind and commit sooner or later. Just hope it's with us. It's a position we need filled, so I understand Tubby putting out offers. It's always a crapshoot when you wait on someone to commit. He could very easily pick another school and leave us empty handed and force us to choose from lesser players.

Out of curiosity (and not for sake of arguing), what would be the best course of action?

The best course of action is to sign Harris right away if you can, or to sign any decent recruit right away if you can. Even the most of the handful of posters that think that Tubby will turn it around, don't think we will be good this year.

Tubby can't be picky. If we aren't good, we only have room for 3 or 4 and we lose most of the roster after 2019, we are going to have a tough time signing anyone good.

Tubby has to do SOMETHING to build some kind of momentum, something to stop all of the bad stuff and the bad vibe around the program.

Why can't he be picky? That's ridiculous. The bad vibe is coming from this board and local talk radio.

Again, the entire conference has signed 2 players. I trust Tubby's evaluation of talent. Signing junk players won't help a bit. Right now we have 3 spots, wait for good players..

He'd take Harris now, he just isn't ready to commit now.

Quote:Again, the entire conference has signed 2 players.

So after 7 years of hearing people crap on Pastner by saying that we can't compare ourselves to anyone in the conference, the conference has now all of a sudden become the measuring stick for Tubby. It looks like Tubby's statement on how it is super duper hard to recruit here has managed to brainwash a few of our fans.

Again, that pesky reading comprehension thing rearing its ugly head. Nobody said anything about taking commitments from junk players, but we also have to be realistic.

Davenport has a rating of 91; which puts him at #160 among high schoolers and jucos. Johnson has a rating of .9041 which puts him at #161 among high schoolers and #173 among high schoolers and jucos. They are our two best recruits.

Tubby can't afford to turn down a point guard ranked in the top 150 regardless of whether it is Lomax, Harris or anyone else. He can't wait for anyone.

(08-07-2017 06:35 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 06:01 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 05:51 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 11:46 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 11:37 AM)EricSigEpTNBeta183 Wrote:  Well the beginning of winter (Firday day Dec 21st) kinda coincides with the beginning of conference play. For example last year we open conference play on December 27 against SMU . So sure we'll call it the beginning of winter if you'd like.

I guess my point was that he was pretty much correct. Not sure why people were debating when he was going to commit. Conference play, winter, all about the same. In short, he wasn't planning on committing anytime soon.

That said, he may change his mind and commit sooner or later. Just hope it's with us. It's a position we need filled, so I understand Tubby putting out offers. It's always a crapshoot when you wait on someone to commit. He could very easily pick another school and leave us empty handed and force us to choose from lesser players.

Out of curiosity (and not for sake of arguing), what would be the best course of action?

The best course of action is to sign Harris right away if you can, or to sign any decent recruit right away if you can. Even the most of the handful of posters that think that Tubby will turn it around, don't think we will be good this year.

Tubby can't be picky. If we aren't good, we only have room for 3 or 4 and we lose most of the roster after 2019, we are going to have a tough time signing anyone good.

Tubby has to do SOMETHING to build some kind of momentum, something to stop all of the bad stuff and the bad vibe around the program.

Why can't he be picky? That's ridiculous. The bad vibe is coming from this board and local talk radio.

Again, the entire conference has signed 2 players. I trust Tubby's evaluation of talent. Signing junk players won't help a bit. Right now we have 3 spots, wait for good players..

He'd take Harris now, he just isn't ready to commit now.

Quote:Again, the entire conference has signed 2 players.

So after 7 years of hearing people crap on Pastner by saying that we can't compare ourselves to anyone in the conference, the conference has now all of a sudden become the measuring stick for Tubby. It looks like Tubby's statement on how it is super duper hard to recruit here has managed to brainwash a few of our fans.

Again, that pesky reading comprehension thing rearing its ugly head. Nobody said anything about taking commitments from junk players, but we also have to be realistic.

Davenport has a rating of 91; which puts him at #160 among high schoolers and jucos. Johnson has a rating of .9041 which puts him at #161 among high schoolers and #173 among high schoolers and jucos. They are our two best recruits.

Tubby can't afford to turn down a point guard ranked in the top 150 regardless of whether it is Lomax, Harris or anyone else. He can't wait for anyone.

Dude! He's offered Harris. Is he turning them down? Right now, we have 3 open spots. He has a lot of offers floating out there. The player determines if/when they decide to commit. Obviously, patience isn't practiced here.

I'd say comparing ourselves to Cinci, UConn, and Wichita State isn't a bad thing now. Heck, SMU has absolutely handed it to us for years.

Sorry, but we just ain't all that right now.

(08-07-2017 06:42 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 06:35 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 06:01 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 05:51 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 11:46 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  I guess my point was that he was pretty much correct. Not sure why people were debating when he was going to commit. Conference play, winter, all about the same. In short, he wasn't planning on committing anytime soon.

That said, he may change his mind and commit sooner or later. Just hope it's with us. It's a position we need filled, so I understand Tubby putting out offers. It's always a crapshoot when you wait on someone to commit. He could very easily pick another school and leave us empty handed and force us to choose from lesser players.

Out of curiosity (and not for sake of arguing), what would be the best course of action?

The best course of action is to sign Harris right away if you can, or to sign any decent recruit right away if you can. Even the most of the handful of posters that think that Tubby will turn it around, don't think we will be good this year.

Tubby can't be picky. If we aren't good, we only have room for 3 or 4 and we lose most of the roster after 2019, we are going to have a tough time signing anyone good.

Tubby has to do SOMETHING to build some kind of momentum, something to stop all of the bad stuff and the bad vibe around the program.

Why can't he be picky? That's ridiculous. The bad vibe is coming from this board and local talk radio.

Again, the entire conference has signed 2 players. I trust Tubby's evaluation of talent. Signing junk players won't help a bit. Right now we have 3 spots, wait for good players..

He'd take Harris now, he just isn't ready to commit now.

Quote:Again, the entire conference has signed 2 players.

So after 7 years of hearing people crap on Pastner by saying that we can't compare ourselves to anyone in the conference, the conference has now all of a sudden become the measuring stick for Tubby. It looks like Tubby's statement on how it is super duper hard to recruit here has managed to brainwash a few of our fans.

Again, that pesky reading comprehension thing rearing its ugly head. Nobody said anything about taking commitments from junk players, but we also have to be realistic.

Davenport has a rating of 91; which puts him at #160 among high schoolers and jucos. Johnson has a rating of .9041 which puts him at #161 among high schoolers and #173 among high schoolers and jucos. They are our two best recruits.

Tubby can't afford to turn down a point guard ranked in the top 150 regardless of whether it is Lomax, Harris or anyone else. He can't wait for anyone.

Dude! He's offered Harris. Is he turning them down? Right now, we have 3 open spots. He has a lot of offers floating out there. The player determines if/when they decide to commit. Obviously, patience isn't practiced here.

I'd say comparing ourselves to Cinci, UConn, and Wichita State isn't a bad thing now. Heck, SMU has absolutely handed it to us for years.

Sorry, but we just ain't all that right now.

Looking more in depth at who we are in on, Tubby has to sign either Lomax or Harris. He isn't going to be able to land any of the top 60 prospects and the other point guards are in the 200's. Lomax and Harris are the only guards we are "warm" on.

Will Richards is possible. That's a Joe Esposito guy from Georgia

(08-07-2017 10:01 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 06:42 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 06:35 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 06:01 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 05:51 PM)Stammers Wrote:  The best course of action is to sign Harris right away if you can, or to sign any decent recruit right away if you can. Even the most of the handful of posters that think that Tubby will turn it around, don't think we will be good this year.

Tubby can't be picky. If we aren't good, we only have room for 3 or 4 and we lose most of the roster after 2019, we are going to have a tough time signing anyone good.

Tubby has to do SOMETHING to build some kind of momentum, something to stop all of the bad stuff and the bad vibe around the program.

Why can't he be picky? That's ridiculous. The bad vibe is coming from this board and local talk radio.

Again, the entire conference has signed 2 players. I trust Tubby's evaluation of talent. Signing junk players won't help a bit. Right now we have 3 spots, wait for good players..

He'd take Harris now, he just isn't ready to commit now.

Quote:Again, the entire conference has signed 2 players.

So after 7 years of hearing people crap on Pastner by saying that we can't compare ourselves to anyone in the conference, the conference has now all of a sudden become the measuring stick for Tubby. It looks like Tubby's statement on how it is super duper hard to recruit here has managed to brainwash a few of our fans.

Again, that pesky reading comprehension thing rearing its ugly head. Nobody said anything about taking commitments from junk players, but we also have to be realistic.

Davenport has a rating of 91; which puts him at #160 among high schoolers and jucos. Johnson has a rating of .9041 which puts him at #161 among high schoolers and #173 among high schoolers and jucos. They are our two best recruits.

Tubby can't afford to turn down a point guard ranked in the top 150 regardless of whether it is Lomax, Harris or anyone else. He can't wait for anyone.

Dude! He's offered Harris. Is he turning them down? Right now, we have 3 open spots. He has a lot of offers floating out there. The player determines if/when they decide to commit. Obviously, patience isn't practiced here.

I'd say comparing ourselves to Cinci, UConn, and Wichita State isn't a bad thing now. Heck, SMU has absolutely handed it to us for years.

Sorry, but we just ain't all that right now.

Looking more in depth at who we are in on, Tubby has to sign either Lomax or Harris. He isn't going to be able to land any of the top 60 prospects and the other point guards are in the 200's. Lomax and Harris are the only guards we are "warm" on.

Recruiting is fluid.