(07-07-2017 10:45 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-06-2017 05:51 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  What happened to the brewery proposal for the MSC?

And related to FB at the LB - and for city of Memphis benefit, Tiger Lane & Fairgrounds security year round, why not use the SW few acres of the Fairgrounds for a private RV park? It would always be full during the game weekends, & likely attract substantial interest by tourists year round who come thru Memphis and need a base from which to visit Memphis attractions. More importantly, the revenues could provide security for the entire Fairgrounds proper. Just saw a survey that says RVers now represent 10% of the US population & growing faster than any other recreation segment.

yeah, the Agricenter RV park is always full it seems...that's a solid idea.

put the spots around the Liberty Land green space you you would have a nice open green field right outside your RV.

You'd definitely need to provide big time security there, no way most people would feel safe there. It's ok for games, but it isn't the best are in town for longer stays. The Agricenter isn't close to anything fun, but at least it's safe..

(07-07-2017 10:45 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-06-2017 05:51 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  What happened to the brewery proposal for the MSC?

And related to FB at the LB - and for city of Memphis benefit, Tiger Lane & Fairgrounds security year round, why not use the SW few acres of the Fairgrounds for a private RV park? It would always be full during the game weekends, & likely attract substantial interest by tourists year round who come thru Memphis and need a base from which to visit Memphis attractions. More importantly, the revenues could provide security for the entire Fairgrounds proper. Just saw a survey that says RVers now represent 10% of the US population & growing faster than any other recreation segment.

yeah, the Agricenter RV park is always full it seems...that's a solid idea.

put the spots around the Liberty Land green space you you would have a nice open green field right outside your RV.

And its rental revenue could likely support the security that Tiger Lane and the rest of the Fairgrounds need 24/7/365 aside from greatly expanding the tailgate experience at Tiger games. Wife & I are enthusiastic RVers & it is rare to find a quality RV park within urban areas. That's why I think the RV park idea is solid beyond FB weekends. We like to visit urban areas with history & tourist interests almost as much as the great outdoors of rural America. An RV park at the Fairgrounds, with its central location, would be an ideal, popular & valuable addition at the Fairgrounds. Vegetation/landscaping, lighting, fencing & security could easily allay safety concerns.

http://experiencelife.lamesarv.com/2016/...lture.html

(07-07-2017 11:53 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 10:45 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-06-2017 05:51 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  What happened to the brewery proposal for the MSC?

And related to FB at the LB - and for city of Memphis benefit, Tiger Lane & Fairgrounds security year round, why not use the SW few acres of the Fairgrounds for a private RV park? It would always be full during the game weekends, & likely attract substantial interest by tourists year round who come thru Memphis and need a base from which to visit Memphis attractions. More importantly, the revenues could provide security for the entire Fairgrounds proper. Just saw a survey that says RVers now represent 10% of the US population & growing faster than any other recreation segment.

yeah, the Agricenter RV park is always full it seems...that's a solid idea.

put the spots around the Liberty Land green space you you would have a nice open green field right outside your RV.

And its rental revenue could likely support the security that Tiger Lane and the rest of the Fairgrounds need 24/7/365 aside from greatly expanding the tailgate experience at Tiger games. Wife & I are enthusiastic RVers & it is rare to find a quality RV park within urban areas. That's why I think the RV park idea is solid beyond FB weekends. We like to visit urban areas with history & tourist interests almost as much as the great outdoors of rural America. An RV park at the Fairgrounds, with its central location, would be an ideal, popular & valuable addition at the Fairgrounds. Vegetation/landscaping, lighting, fencing & security could easily allay safety concerns.

http://experiencelife.lamesarv.com/2016/...lture.html

If that happens. I bet I know who would do it. [1] [2]

[1] - http://rvcoutdoors.com/accomodation/rv-sites/
[2] - http://rvcoutdoors.com/company-team/

Why doesn't U of Memphis take over operations of the stadium and faigroumds and find a development partner to build mixed use there?

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(07-07-2017 12:12 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 11:53 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 10:45 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-06-2017 05:51 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  What happened to the brewery proposal for the MSC?

And related to FB at the LB - and for city of Memphis benefit, Tiger Lane & Fairgrounds security year round, why not use the SW few acres of the Fairgrounds for a private RV park? It would always be full during the game weekends, & likely attract substantial interest by tourists year round who come thru Memphis and need a base from which to visit Memphis attractions. More importantly, the revenues could provide security for the entire Fairgrounds proper. Just saw a survey that says RVers now represent 10% of the US population & growing faster than any other recreation segment.

yeah, the Agricenter RV park is always full it seems...that's a solid idea.

put the spots around the Liberty Land green space you you would have a nice open green field right outside your RV.

And its rental revenue could likely support the security that Tiger Lane and the rest of the Fairgrounds need 24/7/365 aside from greatly expanding the tailgate experience at Tiger games. Wife & I are enthusiastic RVers & it is rare to find a quality RV park within urban areas. That's why I think the RV park idea is solid beyond FB weekends. We like to visit urban areas with history & tourist interests almost as much as the great outdoors of rural America. An RV park at the Fairgrounds, with its central location, would be an ideal, popular & valuable addition at the Fairgrounds. Vegetation/landscaping, lighting, fencing & security could easily allay safety concerns.

http://experiencelife.lamesarv.com/2016/...lture.html

If that happens. I bet I know who would do it. [1] [2]

[1] - http://rvcoutdoors.com/accomodation/rv-sites/
[2] - http://rvcoutdoors.com/company-team/

I'm familiar with RVC & a couple of their resorts. First class outfit who understands the RV-based recreation market. Would be a plus with their Memphis connection. Would be a different market but they could certainly make it happen provided they could wade through the inevitable Memphis politics.

(07-07-2017 10:45 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 10:34 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 10:29 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 08:32 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  

(07-06-2017 08:47 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Hear is an idea. Get with the city and CBU and have a .City/U of M/CBU parking garage build on central. Partially paid for by the city partly by UofM and partly by CBU.

Will allow for more parking year round for the students at CBU and then give more parking for football fans during games at the LBS. It could also be used for the Children's museum. Give CBU a parking pass and then charge for the general public.

CBU doesn't have any money. Their endowment is less than a third of ours, and they completely rely on tuition to keep the doors open. If they don't get enrollment up they will end up like Lambuth and the numerous other small colleges that have gone under. [1]

We would have to foot the entire bill, when we already have serious parking issues on the main campus. And honestly, we compete for the same students, and not to mention the same pool of donations.

I believe. We should give the fairgrounds completely to the University and start a public-private partnership with local companies and start an innovation campus with local companies like what Wichita State has done. [2]

There would be huge demand for class A office space in Midtown.

[1] - https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015...riple-2017
[2] - http://wsuinnovationcampus.org/

Speaking of WSU, their Innovation Campus is organised through a partnership called WSU Ventures. [1]

Memphis announced a new company called UofM Ventures this week. [2]


[1] - http://www.wsuventures.org/
[2] - https://www.bizjournals.com/memphis/news...erson.html

This article sheds a bit more light on what's going on with the fairgrounds. [1]
They want to run the fairgrounds like Shelby Farms, with a private board. In theory this is fine, but it matters who is on it. I don't know who the Friends of the Fairgrounds (FOTF) are, but I would be concern if people are pushing back.

[1] - https://www.bizjournals.com/memphis/news...posal.html

Yeah. I don't know about these guys. [1] Looks like a real estate developer is AstroTurfing. Who knows.


[1] - http://www.fairgroundsfriends.org/

I was involved in the stakeholder meetings of the Friends of the Fairgrounds group, and they are an extremely diverse group of civic leaders, residents to the north, south, east & west of the LB, and business owners who want to see that area go to its best use. It's not a developer. The group actually grew from concerned citizens pushing back when the city was trying to force the Lipscomb plan down everyone's throats.

Reps from the Liberty Bowl (the building as well as the game), as well as other entities have been present at past meetings. I never saw Jones, although he may have been at a couple I had to miss.

IMO, the area needs to be developed into something that serves the residents of the area - you have Cooper-Young, Chickasaw Gardens, Orange Mound and the Beltline all right there, and all areas were well-represented during discussions. Don't make it solely a tourist attraction - make it an area the locals want to come to, and the tourists will follow.

At any rate, Jones is flat-out wrong here. An empty area 3/4 of the year is NOT the best use for the area, nor does not having more parking dissuade attendance.
Memphis in general needs to get out of this mindset of needing a parking space for every single seat in a place, and that it needs to be within a 5 minute walk.

As for expanding the LB itself, I think that's a pretty dumb idea at this point unless there's a desire to do it for something other than concerts. I'm going to Nashville this weekend to see the US Men's National Soccer team play at Nissan Stadium, so if they're courting year-round events like these, then maybe expansion makes sense, but again, those are few & far between.

(07-07-2017 12:17 PM)panama Wrote:  Why doesn't U of Memphis take over operations of the stadium and faigroumds and find a development partner to build mixed use there?

Because the UofM doesn't need to be in the business of retail, for one. They have their hands full working alongside the owners involved in the Walker/Highland developments anyway.

(07-07-2017 12:31 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 10:45 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 10:34 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 10:29 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 08:32 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  CBU doesn't have any money. Their endowment is less than a third of ours, and they completely rely on tuition to keep the doors open. If they don't get enrollment up they will end up like Lambuth and the numerous other small colleges that have gone under. [1]

We would have to foot the entire bill, when we already have serious parking issues on the main campus. And honestly, we compete for the same students, and not to mention the same pool of donations.

I believe. We should give the fairgrounds completely to the University and start a public-private partnership with local companies and start an innovation campus with local companies like what Wichita State has done. [2]

There would be huge demand for class A office space in Midtown.

[1] - https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015...riple-2017
[2] - http://wsuinnovationcampus.org/

Speaking of WSU, their Innovation Campus is organised through a partnership called WSU Ventures. [1]

Memphis announced a new company called UofM Ventures this week. [2]


[1] - http://www.wsuventures.org/
[2] - https://www.bizjournals.com/memphis/news...erson.html

This article sheds a bit more light on what's going on with the fairgrounds. [1]
They want to run the fairgrounds like Shelby Farms, with a private board. In theory this is fine, but it matters who is on it. I don't know who the Friends of the Fairgrounds (FOTF) are, but I would be concern if people are pushing back.

[1] - https://www.bizjournals.com/memphis/news...posal.html

Yeah. I don't know about these guys. [1] Looks like a real estate developer is AstroTurfing. Who knows.


[1] - http://www.fairgroundsfriends.org/

I was involved in the stakeholder meetings of the Friends of the Fairgrounds group, and they are an extremely diverse group of civic leaders, residents to the north, south, east & west of the LB, and business owners who want to see that area go to its best use. It's not a developer. The group actually grew from concerned citizens pushing back when the city was trying to force the Lipscomb plan down everyone's throats.

Reps from the Liberty Bowl (the building as well as the game), as well as other entities have been present at past meetings. I never saw Jones, although he may have been at a couple I had to miss.

IMO, the area needs to be developed into something that serves the residents of the area - you have Cooper-Young, Chickasaw Gardens, Orange Mound and the Beltline all right there, and all areas were well-represented during discussions. Don't make it solely a tourist attraction - make it an area the locals want to come to, and the tourists will follow.

At any rate, Jones is flat-out wrong here. An empty area 3/4 of the year is NOT the best use for the area, nor does not having more parking dissuade attendance.
Memphis in general needs to get out of this mindset of needing a parking space for every single seat in a place, and that it needs to be within a 5 minute walk.

As for expanding the LB itself, I think that's a pretty dumb idea at this point unless there's a desire to do it for something other than concerts. I'm going to Nashville this weekend to see the US Men's National Soccer team play at Nissan Stadium, so if they're courting year-round events like these, then maybe expansion makes sense, but again, those are few & far between.

tigergreen, you are one of the few people here I trust about local issues so I'm going to take your word for it. I have my reservations on just handing over public spaces to private organizations. It worked in a way for Shelby Farms, but we might just have been lucky.

The fairgrounds are too important to the University and the city for us to mess this up.

This is why the fairgrounds development should be related to, complementary of & compatible with the LB and it's use. Any business or community development of the grounds will otherwise always be in conflict with the primary activity - the Liberty Bowl stadium & it's activities. Seems to me focusing on just the interests & needs of the immediately adjacent communities is much too narrow for the fairgrounds which has from its beginning has served the interests of a much broader community.

(07-07-2017 12:33 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:17 PM)panama Wrote:  Why doesn't U of Memphis take over operations of the stadium and faigroumds and find a development partner to build mixed use there?

Because the UofM doesn't need to be in the business of retail, for one. They have their hands full working alongside the owners involved in the Walker/Highland developments anyway.

They shouldn't be in Retail. But Class A office buildings? Yes.

I already showed you WSU innovation campus. [2]

Let's look at my other alma mater. Georgia Tech. [1] [3]

There's a new movement in moving Corporate Research Centers back into cites. Memphis needs these type of high skilled hi-tech jobs, and Midtown is the perfect place for this type of development. We only need a world class metropolitan research university to anchor it. That's the University of Memphis.

[1] - http://www.gatech.edu/innovation-ecosystem/tech-square
[2] - http://wsuinnovationcampus.org/
[2] - https://hbr.org/2016/03/why-todays-corpo...-in-cities

(07-07-2017 02:27 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  This is why the fairgrounds development should be related to, complementary of & compatible with the LB and it's use. Any business or community development of the grounds will otherwise always be in conflict with the primary activity - the Liberty Bowl stadium & it's activities. Seems to me focusing on just the interests & needs of the immediately adjacent communities is much too narrow for the fairgrounds which has from its beginning has served the interests of a much broader community.

I'm not saying that's ALL it needs to focus on at all....MY opinion is that it needs to meet the needs of the immediate surrounding communities, but that does not mean that the idea wouldn't ALSO serve the interest of a wider group, including Memphians in general as well as tourists, and not just cater to only one of those groups.

Back when brainstorming discussions were first happening, someone threw out the idea of a water park. While it may not be feasible, something like that would certainly tie in with the surrounding areas, as well as engage other Memphians to drive/bike to, as well as some tourists.

Basically my point is that it doesn't need to be "mixed use' hotels, parking garages, and chain retail, nor does it all need to be all about providing extra space for the LB. Something that everyone would want to come & be a part of as a larger sense of community. Do that, and the tourists will want to come as well.

(07-07-2017 02:40 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:33 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:17 PM)panama Wrote:  Why doesn't U of Memphis take over operations of the stadium and faigroumds and find a development partner to build mixed use there?

Because the UofM doesn't need to be in the business of retail, for one. They have their hands full working alongside the owners involved in the Walker/Highland developments anyway.

They shouldn't be in Retail. But Class A office buildings? Yes.

I already showed you WSU innovation campus. [2]

Let's look at my other alma mater. Georgia Tech. [1] [3]

There's a new movement in moving Corporate Research Centers back into cites. Memphis needs these type of high skilled hi-tech jobs, and Midtown is the perfect place for this type of development. We only need a world class metropolitan research university to anchor it. That's the University of Memphis.

[1] - http://www.gatech.edu/innovation-ecosystem/tech-square
[2] - http://wsuinnovationcampus.org/
[2] - https://hbr.org/2016/03/why-todays-corpo...-in-cities

Don't disagree with the need, but would be better located adjacent to the university or on the south campus, not on the fairgrounds where LB activities would conflict. Can you imagine attempting to commute to or from the fairgrounds with a LB function in progress or receive clients or customers?

(07-07-2017 02:59 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 02:40 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:33 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:17 PM)panama Wrote:  Why doesn't U of Memphis take over operations of the stadium and faigroumds and find a development partner to build mixed use there?

Because the UofM doesn't need to be in the business of retail, for one. They have their hands full working alongside the owners involved in the Walker/Highland developments anyway.

They shouldn't be in Retail. But Class A office buildings? Yes.

I already showed you WSU innovation campus. [2]

Let's look at my other alma mater. Georgia Tech. [1] [3]

There's a new movement in moving Corporate Research Centers back into cites. Memphis needs these type of high skilled hi-tech jobs, and Midtown is the perfect place for this type of development. We only need a world class metropolitan research university to anchor it. That's the University of Memphis.

[1] - http://www.gatech.edu/innovation-ecosystem/tech-square
[2] - http://wsuinnovationcampus.org/
[2] - https://hbr.org/2016/03/why-todays-corpo...-in-cities

Don't disagree with the need, but would be better located adjacent to the university or on the south campus, not on the fairgrounds where LB activities would conflict. Can you imagine attempting to commute to or from the fairgrounds with a LB function in progress or receive clients or customers?

Georgia Tech and WSU have on campus stadiums.

(07-07-2017 02:07 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:31 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 10:45 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 10:34 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 10:29 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  Speaking of WSU, their Innovation Campus is organised through a partnership called WSU Ventures. [1]

Memphis announced a new company called UofM Ventures this week. [2]


[1] - http://www.wsuventures.org/
[2] - https://www.bizjournals.com/memphis/news...erson.html

This article sheds a bit more light on what's going on with the fairgrounds. [1]
They want to run the fairgrounds like Shelby Farms, with a private board. In theory this is fine, but it matters who is on it. I don't know who the Friends of the Fairgrounds (FOTF) are, but I would be concern if people are pushing back.

[1] - https://www.bizjournals.com/memphis/news...posal.html

Yeah. I don't know about these guys. [1] Looks like a real estate developer is AstroTurfing. Who knows.


[1] - http://www.fairgroundsfriends.org/

I was involved in the stakeholder meetings of the Friends of the Fairgrounds group, and they are an extremely diverse group of civic leaders, residents to the north, south, east & west of the LB, and business owners who want to see that area go to its best use. It's not a developer. The group actually grew from concerned citizens pushing back when the city was trying to force the Lipscomb plan down everyone's throats.

Reps from the Liberty Bowl (the building as well as the game), as well as other entities have been present at past meetings. I never saw Jones, although he may have been at a couple I had to miss.

IMO, the area needs to be developed into something that serves the residents of the area - you have Cooper-Young, Chickasaw Gardens, Orange Mound and the Beltline all right there, and all areas were well-represented during discussions. Don't make it solely a tourist attraction - make it an area the locals want to come to, and the tourists will follow.

At any rate, Jones is flat-out wrong here. An empty area 3/4 of the year is NOT the best use for the area, nor does not having more parking dissuade attendance.
Memphis in general needs to get out of this mindset of needing a parking space for every single seat in a place, and that it needs to be within a 5 minute walk.

As for expanding the LB itself, I think that's a pretty dumb idea at this point unless there's a desire to do it for something other than concerts. I'm going to Nashville this weekend to see the US Men's National Soccer team play at Nissan Stadium, so if they're courting year-round events like these, then maybe expansion makes sense, but again, those are few & far between.

tigergreen, you are one of the few people here I trust about local issues so I'm going to take your word for it. I have my reservations on just handing over public spaces to private organizations. It worked in a way for Shelby Farms, but we might just have been lucky.

The fairgrounds are too important to the University and the city for us to mess this up.

There's a lot of that going on now, actually...Shelby Farms is the largest, but the Overton Park Conservancy is another. Setting aside any personal opinions regarding the zoo/greensward issue, the OP Conservancy has worked extremely hard to make OP a place that the surrounding community comes to for a lot more than just the Zoo. Now if you go to the park on a Saturday or Sunday, it's PACKED with families, people biking/jogging/exercising dogs, etc. That wasn't always the case.

These types of groups are more invested in the actual good of the area than government entities, and certainly real estate developers. Regardless of whether or not the Fairgrounds area gets a conservancy like that, I'm glad that there are citizens invested enough to take it on and work with the larger entitities to try to make the best possible decision for the area. Like you said, it's too big and important to screw up.

(07-07-2017 03:05 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 02:59 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 02:40 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:33 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:17 PM)panama Wrote:  Why doesn't U of Memphis take over operations of the stadium and faigroumds and find a development partner to build mixed use there?

Because the UofM doesn't need to be in the business of retail, for one. They have their hands full working alongside the owners involved in the Walker/Highland developments anyway.

They shouldn't be in Retail. But Class A office buildings? Yes.

I already showed you WSU innovation campus. [2]

Let's look at my other alma mater. Georgia Tech. [1] [3]

There's a new movement in moving Corporate Research Centers back into cites. Memphis needs these type of high skilled hi-tech jobs, and Midtown is the perfect place for this type of development. We only need a world class metropolitan research university to anchor it. That's the University of Memphis.

[1] - http://www.gatech.edu/innovation-ecosystem/tech-square
[2] - http://wsuinnovationcampus.org/
[2] - https://hbr.org/2016/03/why-todays-corpo...-in-cities

Don't disagree with the need, but would be better located adjacent to the university or on the south campus, not on the fairgrounds where LB activities would conflict. Can you imagine attempting to commute to or from the fairgrounds with a LB function in progress or receive clients or customers?

Georgia Tech and WSU have on campus stadiums.

That's a good thing for coordination & compatibility since the activities are all university related. Very much unlike the LB & fairgrounds. WSU has an OC stadium? And they don't even play FB, wow!

(07-07-2017 03:05 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 02:59 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 02:40 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:33 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:17 PM)panama Wrote:  Why doesn't U of Memphis take over operations of the stadium and faigroumds and find a development partner to build mixed use there?

Because the UofM doesn't need to be in the business of retail, for one. They have their hands full working alongside the owners involved in the Walker/Highland developments anyway.

They shouldn't be in Retail. But Class A office buildings? Yes.

I already showed you WSU innovation campus. [2]

Let's look at my other alma mater. Georgia Tech. [1] [3]

There's a new movement in moving Corporate Research Centers back into cites. Memphis needs these type of high skilled hi-tech jobs, and Midtown is the perfect place for this type of development. We only need a world class metropolitan research university to anchor it. That's the University of Memphis.

[1] - http://www.gatech.edu/innovation-ecosystem/tech-square
[2] - http://wsuinnovationcampus.org/
[2] - https://hbr.org/2016/03/why-todays-corpo...-in-cities

Don't disagree with the need, but would be better located adjacent to the university or on the south campus, not on the fairgrounds where LB activities would conflict. Can you imagine attempting to commute to or from the fairgrounds with a LB function in progress or receive clients or customers?

Georgia Tech and WSU have on campus stadiums.

Also. There should be a trolley station or some form of reliable public transit at the fairgrounds and the UofM, ideally connecting each other.

(07-07-2017 03:09 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 03:05 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 02:59 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 02:40 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:33 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  Because the UofM doesn't need to be in the business of retail, for one. They have their hands full working alongside the owners involved in the Walker/Highland developments anyway.

They shouldn't be in Retail. But Class A office buildings? Yes.

I already showed you WSU innovation campus. [2]

Let's look at my other alma mater. Georgia Tech. [1] [3]

There's a new movement in moving Corporate Research Centers back into cites. Memphis needs these type of high skilled hi-tech jobs, and Midtown is the perfect place for this type of development. We only need a world class metropolitan research university to anchor it. That's the University of Memphis.

[1] - http://www.gatech.edu/innovation-ecosystem/tech-square
[2] - http://wsuinnovationcampus.org/
[2] - https://hbr.org/2016/03/why-todays-corpo...-in-cities

Don't disagree with the need, but would be better located adjacent to the university or on the south campus, not on the fairgrounds where LB activities would conflict. Can you imagine attempting to commute to or from the fairgrounds with a LB function in progress or receive clients or customers?

Georgia Tech and WSU have on campus stadiums.

That's a good thing for coordination & compatibility since the activities are all university related. Very much unlike the LB & fairgrounds. WSU has an OC stadium? And they don't even play FB, wow!

I've heard WSU plays basketball.

(07-07-2017 03:05 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 02:59 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 02:40 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:33 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:17 PM)panama Wrote:  Why doesn't U of Memphis take over operations of the stadium and faigroumds and find a development partner to build mixed use there?

Because the UofM doesn't need to be in the business of retail, for one. They have their hands full working alongside the owners involved in the Walker/Highland developments anyway.

They shouldn't be in Retail. But Class A office buildings? Yes.

I already showed you WSU innovation campus. [2]

Let's look at my other alma mater. Georgia Tech. [1] [3]

There's a new movement in moving Corporate Research Centers back into cites. Memphis needs these type of high skilled hi-tech jobs, and Midtown is the perfect place for this type of development. We only need a world class metropolitan research university to anchor it. That's the University of Memphis.

[1] - http://www.gatech.edu/innovation-ecosystem/tech-square
[2] - http://wsuinnovationcampus.org/
[2] - https://hbr.org/2016/03/why-todays-corpo...-in-cities

Don't disagree with the need, but would be better located adjacent to the university or on the south campus, not on the fairgrounds where LB activities would conflict. Can you imagine attempting to commute to or from the fairgrounds with a LB function in progress or receive clients or customers?

Georgia Tech and WSU have on campus stadiums.

The FedEx Institute of Technology and Crews Center for Entrepreneurship are already smaller versions of this on the UofM campus. Sure; it would be great to NEED a massive space like the fairgrounds for something of this nature, but the UofM is nowhere near that level of need (or funding to take on a project of that nature) now.

(07-07-2017 03:11 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 03:09 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 03:05 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 02:59 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 02:40 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  They shouldn't be in Retail. But Class A office buildings? Yes.

I already showed you WSU innovation campus. [2]

Let's look at my other alma mater. Georgia Tech. [1] [3]

There's a new movement in moving Corporate Research Centers back into cites. Memphis needs these type of high skilled hi-tech jobs, and Midtown is the perfect place for this type of development. We only need a world class metropolitan research university to anchor it. That's the University of Memphis.

[1] - http://www.gatech.edu/innovation-ecosystem/tech-square
[2] - http://wsuinnovationcampus.org/
[2] - https://hbr.org/2016/03/why-todays-corpo...-in-cities

Don't disagree with the need, but would be better located adjacent to the university or on the south campus, not on the fairgrounds where LB activities would conflict. Can you imagine attempting to commute to or from the fairgrounds with a LB function in progress or receive clients or customers?

Georgia Tech and WSU have on campus stadiums.

That's a good thing for coordination & compatibility since the activities are all university related. Very much unlike the LB & fairgrounds. WSU has an OC stadium? And they don't even play FB, wow!

I've heard WSU plays basketball.

In an arena before a packed house@10k I think. WSU has great MBB support. But apples & oranges compared to the LB & fairgrounds owned & controlled by the city with an entirely different traditional purpose of use.

(07-07-2017 02:40 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:33 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(07-07-2017 12:17 PM)panama Wrote:  Why doesn't U of Memphis take over operations of the stadium and faigroumds and find a development partner to build mixed use there?

Because the UofM doesn't need to be in the business of retail, for one. They have their hands full working alongside the owners involved in the Walker/Highland developments anyway.

They shouldn't be in Retail. But Class A office buildings? Yes.

I already showed you WSU innovation campus. [2]

Let's look at my other alma mater. Georgia Tech. [1] [3]

There's a new movement in moving Corporate Research Centers back into cites. Memphis needs these type of high skilled hi-tech jobs, and Midtown is the perfect place for this type of development. We only need a world class metropolitan research university to anchor it. That's the University of Memphis.

[1] - http://www.gatech.edu/innovation-ecosystem/tech-square
[2] - http://wsuinnovationcampus.org/
[2] - https://hbr.org/2016/03/why-todays-corpo...-in-cities

http://stadium.gsu.edu

http://www.carterusa.com/projects/summerhill

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