(07-05-2017 10:08 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 10:02 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  Besides message boards, where is all this "chatter" taking place?
Where is all this?

Several AD's are on record as saying a merge can't be avoided and King Karl has been dodging questions about the subject but implying that there is real talking going on behind the scenes

All this chatter is on the CUSA board, because they know their conference makeup is a terrible design.

(07-05-2017 08:18 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 07:59 AM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  Appalachian State
Coastal Carolina
Georgia Southern
Georgia State
South Alabama
Troy
Arkansas State
Louisiana
Texas State

Fixed it for you

This plus USM or ODU and that's a beautiful conference

No more eastern teams...maybe Southern Miss but that is it...Southern Miss could play in the west if there are divisions. But as a founding member of CUSA I don't see them in the Sun Belt.

(07-05-2017 09:53 AM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 08:18 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 07:59 AM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  Appalachian State
Coastal Carolina
Georgia Southern
Georgia State
South Alabama
Troy
Arkansas State
Louisiana
Texas State

Fixed it for you

This plus USM or ODU and that's a beautiful conference

In all reality we might see a Gulf & Atlantic conferences very soon there is a lot of chatter

Gulf
Arkansas State
Louisiana
Texas State
South Alabama
USM
La tech
North Texas
Rice
UTSA
WKU*

Atlantic
Appalachian State
Coastal Carolina
Georgia Southern
Georgia State
Marshall University
Middle Tennessee State
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
Old Dominion
UAB*

*can be switched interchangeably

I don't see Troy being left out. ULM either.

USM started a conference with Louisville, TCU, Cincinatti, Houston, Memphis, UCF and USF. Now in a conference with Charlotte, UNT, F_U and ODU.

They are smart enough to realize that isn't the same conference just because it has the same name.

(07-05-2017 10:22 AM)ARSTATEFAN1986 Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 09:53 AM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 08:18 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 07:59 AM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  Appalachian State
Coastal Carolina
Georgia Southern
Georgia State
South Alabama
Troy
Arkansas State
Louisiana
Texas State

Fixed it for you

This plus USM or ODU and that's a beautiful conference

In all reality we might see a Gulf & Atlantic conferences very soon there is a lot of chatter

Gulf
Arkansas State
Louisiana
Texas State
South Alabama
USM
La tech
North Texas
Rice
UTSA
WKU*

Atlantic
Appalachian State
Coastal Carolina
Georgia Southern
Georgia State
Marshall University
Middle Tennessee State
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
Old Dominion
UAB*

*can be switched interchangeably

I don't see Troy being left out. ULM either.

Forgot Troy & Charlotte they will be in the mix

As for ULM their budget and La tech will keep them out

(07-04-2017 10:04 PM)Usajags Wrote:  Is Missiouri State having any of the issues Mizzou is having with declining attendance???

Nope.
http://news.missouristate.edu/2016/08/22...t-records/

(07-04-2017 09:57 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  Missouri State offers.....nothing. We aren’t going to 12 any time soon.


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Other than a traditionally top 100 men's basketball program, a top 50 women's program, a top 50 volleyball program and a top 30 baseball program along with top facilities across the board.

(07-05-2017 10:55 AM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  

(07-04-2017 09:57 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  Missouri State offers.....nothing. We aren’t going to 12 any time soon.


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Other than a traditionally top 100 men's basketball program, a top 50 women's program, a top 50 volleyball program and a top 30 baseball program along with top facilities across the board.

You haven’t had a men’s team make the NCAA tournament since we last made it.

MVC is about to be meh basketball league with the cash cow heading out so they league’s appearance will fall as well.

If women’s basketball or volleyball had anything to do with realignment maybe we could address those, but they do not.


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(07-05-2017 10:55 AM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  

(07-04-2017 09:57 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  Missouri State offers.....nothing. We aren’t going to 12 any time soon.


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Other than a traditionally top 100 men's basketball program, a top 50 women's program, a top 50 volleyball program and a top 30 baseball program along with top facilities across the board.

Missouri State would already be in the SBC if y'all weren't atrocious at football. Y'all's facilities and endowment would be captable with the conference. If y'all could make some real noise in a major sport, you'd get invited in a heartbeat. "A top 100 men's basketball program" isn't gonna cut it.

(07-04-2017 10:11 PM)TaxusExpress Wrote:  

(07-04-2017 09:57 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  Missouri State offers.....nothing. We aren’t going to 12 any time soon.


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A thousand times NO MORE MOVE UPS!

If you think the move ups are so great, go join them in FCS.

Yep. Those last two move ups haven't worked out very well....

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Oh good, more realignment...

(07-05-2017 09:58 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 09:53 AM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 08:18 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 07:59 AM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  Appalachian State
Coastal Carolina
Georgia Southern
Georgia State
South Alabama
Troy
Arkansas State
Louisiana
Texas State

Fixed it for you

This plus USM or ODU and that's a beautiful conference

In all reality we might see a Gulf & Atlantic conferences very soon there is a lot of chatter

Gulf
Arkansas State
Louisiana
Texas State
South Alabama
USM
La tech
North Texas
Rice
UTSA
WKU*

Atlantic
Appalachian State
Coastal Carolina
Georgia Southern
Georgia State
Marshall University
Middle Tennessee State
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
Old Dominion
UAB*

*can be switched interchangeably

If we realign based on geography which is the stupidest way to realign imo

Its the only reason why we are talking about it .. Money pool is shrinking and cost of travel is killing the G5

(07-05-2017 10:08 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 10:02 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  Besides message boards, where is all this "chatter" taking place?
Where is all this?

Several AD's are on record as saying a merge can't be avoided and King Karl has been dodging questions about the subject but implying that there is real talking going on behind the scenes

I can confirm there is talking going on behind the scenes to this effect. I can only hope they will STFU because the Belt is fine just the way it is, IMNSHO.

There is no reason to blow up the Belt because CUSA is a crap hole. There is nothing we owe them.

(07-05-2017 12:54 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 09:58 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 09:53 AM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 08:18 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 07:59 AM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  Appalachian State
Coastal Carolina
Georgia Southern
Georgia State
South Alabama
Troy
Arkansas State
Louisiana
Texas State

Fixed it for you

This plus USM or ODU and that's a beautiful conference

In all reality we might see a Gulf & Atlantic conferences very soon there is a lot of chatter

Gulf
Arkansas State
Louisiana
Texas State
South Alabama
USM
La tech
North Texas
Rice
UTSA
WKU*

Atlantic
Appalachian State
Coastal Carolina
Georgia Southern
Georgia State
Marshall University
Middle Tennessee State
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
Old Dominion
UAB*

*can be switched interchangeably

If we realign based on geography which is the stupidest way to realign imo

Its the only reason why we are talking about it .. Money pool is shrinking and cost of travel is killing the G5

We're talking about it because the CUSA schools are beginning to realize that their current setup is unsustainable. Why? Because after realignment, they backfilled with market startups instead of established programs.

Just glossing over the fact that geographical realignment literally will not affect travel costs at all. The Eastern Conference will stretch from Miami to West VA. That is not "compact and travel-friendly" at all. The West would also extend from El Paso (or even Las Cruces, NM) to Kentucky/Alabama which also makes realignment for travel purposes a moot point.

Unlike CUSA, the AAC is able to sustain having a huge footprint as a G5 because they are made up of historically strong, well supported programs. If the stronger, more established teams from both the SBC and CUSA aligned themselves with each other, the new conference would have arguably the same size footprint as the current SBC setup.

College football has always and will always be organized around survival of the fittest and the haves and have nots. In order to create a conference that is both sustainable and competitive as a top G5 league, we have to use this mentality when merging.