(07-05-2017 01:33 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 12:30 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 11:25 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 11:17 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 10:54 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Agree with most of the overall theory here - regardless of your underlying tone.

However, your summarization of Martin's game (bolded above) is off the mark, IMO. He didn't use Dedric to bail him out. The offense was centered around Dedric so much that he used much of the clock just trying to get it in to him. Dedric was not a "bail out" option. He was the best player, and he was the focal point. Rightly so - although it constricted the offense at times. Some of Martin's best play was late in games when he was allowed to playmake after we had gone away from the Dedric-only option. I expect we will see Martin's shots increase to at least 10 per game.

At any time early in the clock, Martin could have penetrated; created his own shot or given someone an opportunity to get one. Opposing defenses know that he isn't good with his right hand, which severely limits his ability to create opportunities.

He did do an adequate job at the end of the clock driving to the basket, but that isn't the most efficient way to run an offense. What teams will do this year, is to pack it in and force someone to make shots from the outside. If we don't have someone that can at least keep the defense honest, I had no idea how we are going to score.

Martin did a wonderful job penetrating given his limited right hand, that I can agree with.

With Dedric gone this year Martin will need to start the offense and set others up and he hasn't really shown the ability to CREATE for others off the dribble, last year when he penetrated he was going to the hole but man could he finish through contact with the best of them

And that is with everyone knowing that he was coming. We really didn't have a true power forward on the roster last year. With our size and depth it won't necessarily be a bad thing if Martin drives more and drives earlier even if he misses. We should do a better job of rebounding.

Also, when Dedric had the ball, a lot of the time the other bigs weren't even bothering going to the glass. They knew that they were badly undersized. This year I would think that we will do a much better job on both ends of the boards.

One of our bigs has to be able to make other teams pay OR Brewton is going to have to be able to beat his man off of the dribble every now and then. If the opposing guards are standing 21' from the basket because they have to guard against the 3, we have a chance. If they can camp out 18' from the basket and not worry about us making the shot, we are in huge trouble.

I think we will rebound better but when we played small last year (without Chad) it kind of opened the floor up for driving lanes early in the season. Later in the season when teams quit guarding KJ at the 3 point line and Markel wouldn't/couldn't shoot the 3 the lane got clogged.

The same could happen this year if we cant put 2 threats out there to hit an open 3 pointer.

We did two things very well most of last season. We played very good defense, especially considering that we were undersized at every single position except the 3. We also did a phenomenal job of knowing when to run and when to pull it back after rebounds and steals. Our guards made the right decision 99% of the time and we were very precise. Obviously, this excludes KJ, but we did pick our spots very well.

(07-05-2017 06:54 PM)Dylan Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 03:03 PM)2tigers Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 02:53 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  Hey if we finish 9th, Tubby can say he met expectations... heck, we may finish 8th and he can say we went above and beyond

If we finish 3rd, you will say we were lucky. If we finish 1st you will say the league is down.

I'll say this, if he wins the American with this roster and all the turmoil in the offseason, forget being in the hall of fame, they should name the hall of fame after him.

I think everyone that is doubting and criticizing the performance so far would gladly eat crow and say they were wrong.

Just in case there is causation between my skepticism and winning the AAC, I predict no wins next year.

I would be delighted to eat crow upon making the NCAA Tourney.

We've fallen, hopefully we can get up.

(07-05-2017 08:41 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 01:33 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 12:30 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 11:25 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 11:17 AM)Stammers Wrote:  At any time early in the clock, Martin could have penetrated; created his own shot or given someone an opportunity to get one. Opposing defenses know that he isn't good with his right hand, which severely limits his ability to create opportunities.

He did do an adequate job at the end of the clock driving to the basket, but that isn't the most efficient way to run an offense. What teams will do this year, is to pack it in and force someone to make shots from the outside. If we don't have someone that can at least keep the defense honest, I had no idea how we are going to score.

Martin did a wonderful job penetrating given his limited right hand, that I can agree with.

With Dedric gone this year Martin will need to start the offense and set others up and he hasn't really shown the ability to CREATE for others off the dribble, last year when he penetrated he was going to the hole but man could he finish through contact with the best of them

And that is with everyone knowing that he was coming. We really didn't have a true power forward on the roster last year. With our size and depth it won't necessarily be a bad thing if Martin drives more and drives earlier even if he misses. We should do a better job of rebounding.

Also, when Dedric had the ball, a lot of the time the other bigs weren't even bothering going to the glass. They knew that they were badly undersized. This year I would think that we will do a much better job on both ends of the boards.

One of our bigs has to be able to make other teams pay OR Brewton is going to have to be able to beat his man off of the dribble every now and then. If the opposing guards are standing 21' from the basket because they have to guard against the 3, we have a chance. If they can camp out 18' from the basket and not worry about us making the shot, we are in huge trouble.

I think we will rebound better but when we played small last year (without Chad) it kind of opened the floor up for driving lanes early in the season. Later in the season when teams quit guarding KJ at the 3 point line and Markel wouldn't/couldn't shoot the 3 the lane got clogged.

The same could happen this year if we cant put 2 threats out there to hit an open 3 pointer.

We did two things very well most of last season. We played very good defense, especially considering that we were undersized at every single position except the 3. We also did a phenomenal job of knowing when to run and when to pull it back after rebounds and steals. Our guards made the right decision 99% of the time and we were very precise. Obviously, this excludes KJ, but we did pick our spots very well.

I agree with most things except defense...

We were a horrible defensive team towards the end of last year.

(07-06-2017 09:06 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 08:41 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 01:33 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 12:30 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 11:25 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  Martin did a wonderful job penetrating given his limited right hand, that I can agree with.

With Dedric gone this year Martin will need to start the offense and set others up and he hasn't really shown the ability to CREATE for others off the dribble, last year when he penetrated he was going to the hole but man could he finish through contact with the best of them

And that is with everyone knowing that he was coming. We really didn't have a true power forward on the roster last year. With our size and depth it won't necessarily be a bad thing if Martin drives more and drives earlier even if he misses. We should do a better job of rebounding.

Also, when Dedric had the ball, a lot of the time the other bigs weren't even bothering going to the glass. They knew that they were badly undersized. This year I would think that we will do a much better job on both ends of the boards.

One of our bigs has to be able to make other teams pay OR Brewton is going to have to be able to beat his man off of the dribble every now and then. If the opposing guards are standing 21' from the basket because they have to guard against the 3, we have a chance. If they can camp out 18' from the basket and not worry about us making the shot, we are in huge trouble.

I think we will rebound better but when we played small last year (without Chad) it kind of opened the floor up for driving lanes early in the season. Later in the season when teams quit guarding KJ at the 3 point line and Markel wouldn't/couldn't shoot the 3 the lane got clogged.

The same could happen this year if we cant put 2 threats out there to hit an open 3 pointer.

We did two things very well most of last season. We played very good defense, especially considering that we were undersized at every single position except the 3. We also did a phenomenal job of knowing when to run and when to pull it back after rebounds and steals. Our guards made the right decision 99% of the time and we were very precise. Obviously, this excludes KJ, but we did pick our spots very well.

I agree with most things except defense...

We were a horrible defensive team towards the end of last year.

Yes, up until the last horrible stretch. I was amazed at how well we played defense up to then when you look at how much height and weight we were giving up at the 4-5.

(07-06-2017 09:06 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 08:41 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 01:33 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 12:30 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 11:25 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  Martin did a wonderful job penetrating given his limited right hand, that I can agree with.

With Dedric gone this year Martin will need to start the offense and set others up and he hasn't really shown the ability to CREATE for others off the dribble, last year when he penetrated he was going to the hole but man could he finish through contact with the best of them

And that is with everyone knowing that he was coming. We really didn't have a true power forward on the roster last year. With our size and depth it won't necessarily be a bad thing if Martin drives more and drives earlier even if he misses. We should do a better job of rebounding.

Also, when Dedric had the ball, a lot of the time the other bigs weren't even bothering going to the glass. They knew that they were badly undersized. This year I would think that we will do a much better job on both ends of the boards.

One of our bigs has to be able to make other teams pay OR Brewton is going to have to be able to beat his man off of the dribble every now and then. If the opposing guards are standing 21' from the basket because they have to guard against the 3, we have a chance. If they can camp out 18' from the basket and not worry about us making the shot, we are in huge trouble.

I think we will rebound better but when we played small last year (without Chad) it kind of opened the floor up for driving lanes early in the season. Later in the season when teams quit guarding KJ at the 3 point line and Markel wouldn't/couldn't shoot the 3 the lane got clogged.

The same could happen this year if we cant put 2 threats out there to hit an open 3 pointer.

We did two things very well most of last season. We played very good defense, especially considering that we were undersized at every single position except the 3. We also did a phenomenal job of knowing when to run and when to pull it back after rebounds and steals. Our guards made the right decision 99% of the time and we were very precise. Obviously, this excludes KJ, but we did pick our spots very well.

I agree with most things except defense...

We were a horrible defensive team towards the end of last year.

I think we played so many lousy teams in the beginning it just made our defense look good. Too often we would leave players wide-open and then they just could not make the shot. Later in the year teams took more advantage of those openings.

(07-06-2017 03:16 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(07-06-2017 09:06 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 08:41 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 01:33 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 12:30 PM)Stammers Wrote:  And that is with everyone knowing that he was coming. We really didn't have a true power forward on the roster last year. With our size and depth it won't necessarily be a bad thing if Martin drives more and drives earlier even if he misses. We should do a better job of rebounding.

Also, when Dedric had the ball, a lot of the time the other bigs weren't even bothering going to the glass. They knew that they were badly undersized. This year I would think that we will do a much better job on both ends of the boards.

One of our bigs has to be able to make other teams pay OR Brewton is going to have to be able to beat his man off of the dribble every now and then. If the opposing guards are standing 21' from the basket because they have to guard against the 3, we have a chance. If they can camp out 18' from the basket and not worry about us making the shot, we are in huge trouble.

I think we will rebound better but when we played small last year (without Chad) it kind of opened the floor up for driving lanes early in the season. Later in the season when teams quit guarding KJ at the 3 point line and Markel wouldn't/couldn't shoot the 3 the lane got clogged.

The same could happen this year if we cant put 2 threats out there to hit an open 3 pointer.

We did two things very well most of last season. We played very good defense, especially considering that we were undersized at every single position except the 3. We also did a phenomenal job of knowing when to run and when to pull it back after rebounds and steals. Our guards made the right decision 99% of the time and we were very precise. Obviously, this excludes KJ, but we did pick our spots very well.

I agree with most things except defense...

We were a horrible defensive team towards the end of last year.

I think we played so many lousy teams in the beginning it just made our defense look good. Too often we would leave players wide-open and then they just could not make the shot. Later in the year teams took more advantage of those openings.

We beat those same lousy teams in UCF, UConn, etc who later beat us. UCF spanked us and that was primarily due to a horrendous defensive effort. In the first game, our defensive effort was much better, especially Markel's who harassed their best player consistently.
Even the first SMU game was close but we got destroyed afterwards coz of our lackadaisical defense.