(08-03-2017 10:43 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Number of 3 star players signed by App in 2013/14/15/16 classes - 19
Number remaining entering the 2017 season - 8
Number making significant starts - 1

Those 3 star guys really make your team a shared championship contender.

2018 commits
3 star QB no FBS offers
2 star LB 12 FBS offers.

Who was the other team in the conf? Oh the highest rated talent team and where did ULM, NMSU, GaSt finish who were in the bottom four in talent rankings. Hmmm yes guy nobody ever said coaching, retention and development dont play a factor. In the case of Idaho schedule does as well. Exchange out ULM and TSXT with App and ArkSt and they have two more losses.

Here is a link to Ranking by Offers for a little different look:

http://www.rankbyoffers.com/2018fbteams/

(08-03-2017 09:46 AM)Arrowhead Wrote:  

(08-03-2017 07:17 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-02-2017 01:01 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(08-02-2017 12:43 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-01-2017 05:06 PM)troutbummike Wrote:  If any App State fan argues against that, the're arguing with a southern fan for the sake of arguing with a southern fan. This is what we preach. Coincidentally, we're first in recruiting at the moment according to the blah blah blah. Grain of salt.

What you dont get conf rankings have to be put into context of national rankings. If you are first in the conference but the last place team is only ten spots away then no big deal could be one or two players or a quantity thing. If you are first in the conference and the last place team is 20 spots behind then that is a huge gap and will show up on the field eventually if both team CONSISTENTY are that far apart. This rarely happens in the Belt except for a few teams at the top and bottom. We had a team a 77th ranked class then the next year at 105th that is not going to separate you from the log jam the Belt has in the middle.

I agree with this for the most part. Last year the SBC's star averages were between 76 and 79. The SEC was between 83 and 93. That's why the SBC is always competitive, but lower level SEC teams almost never beat the guys on top.

Thank you! I was beginning to think all hope was lost in the search for common sense. The only difference in conferences you will see like the Belt is the very top and very bottom overtime I am pretty sure ULM, Idaho and NMSU would be the lowest in team talent and they TYPICALLY finish at the bottom. Before someone brings up Idaho, they did not play App or ArkSt and three of their wins came from ULM, NMSU, a struggling TXST and an FCS. Their season has a lot to do with scheduling.

FYI ULM doesn't consistently finish near the bottom. We have consistently been a middle of the pack school and we got Rivals highest rated recruiting class last year. And I would argue we have taken down more name P5 teams than anyone else in the conference. Viator is a heck of a coach and I think you will start seeing us competing for the West division title on a regular basis. We are definitely trending up.

Looking at the now not ten years ago. Your team talent has you finishing where you should be today. With better recruiting and fresh air at the coaching position I would expect you to be better kind of how it works.

AState is pretty high in the recruiting rankings for now. But we also just filled our last scholarship available for next season with Yesterday's commitment. Giving us nowhere to go but down.

(08-04-2017 09:31 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  AState is pretty high in the recruiting rankings for now. But we also just filled our last scholarship available for next season with Yesterday's commitment. Giving us nowhere to go but down.

Any team that takes any decent amount of transfers the total team talent ranking will be a better indicator of what you have as transfers dont show up in recruit rankings but they do in the total team talent rankings and only the players on the actual roster are factored not the kids that started out with you and are now at last chance U.

(08-04-2017 08:55 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-03-2017 01:58 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(08-03-2017 07:23 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-02-2017 01:24 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(08-02-2017 12:43 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  What you dont get conf rankings have to be put into context of national rankings. If you are first in the conference but the last place team is only ten spots away then no big deal could be one or two players or a quantity thing. If you are first in the conference and the last place team is 20 spots behind then that is a huge gap and will show up on the field eventually if both team CONSISTENTY are that far apart. This rarely happens in the Belt except for a few teams at the top and bottom. We had a team a 77th ranked class then the next year at 105th that is not going to separate you from the log jam the Belt has in the middle.

Troutbummike pay no attention to this wanna be Phil Steele. He has only blown up arguments in his own mind. I've been following recruiting longer than this guy has been alive. I regularly talk to coaches and people who actually run recruiting sites. The guys doing the evualations will readily admit that due to the sheer numbers of players outside the high profile guys their rankings are mostly based on who has offered them

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Following recruiting...lol. I also did not blow them up with opinion I did it with actual numbers from my own and countless articles that dispel the ignorance. No take off your shoes hill billy and come with some analysis like I did or get back to reading Goat Fancy. Yes then when the total team talent rankings come out for 2017 we will see how the majority of teams due in relation to their talent. Want to place any bets? If player rankings do not matter and they just go off offers, which is a lie, then you take the lowest recruit rated team in each conf and I'll take the highest one.

LOL. Hillbilly... If you only knew... Had a good friend who is a GSU fan warn me about you. You really haven't ever been wrong have you? Testosterone has made a fool.out of many a young man. Guess I should have listened.

Most of the guys evualating players are self proclaimed experts. Few, if any, have coaching or playing experience past Saturday Morning Rec League. They don't have a clue what to look for. But that shouldn't come ss a surprise since most of these guys think they know more than every coach in the land. All the spreadsheets & formulas in the world can't beat the evaluation by an experienced coach.

Oh, I forgot App is an exception.

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Lots of talk talk talk and no articles or analysis.....and App is the exception if you actually take the time to look at the results of teams around them in the total team talent ranking but that would take effort and willingness to admit you are dead wrong which you are. You seem more like the regurgitate crap I heard ten years ago type of fanatic moron rather than actually looking stuff up or educating yourself on something. I am wrong quite a bit but not about this will I will show with spending about ten minutes on a spread sheet...I know that is a lot of effort rather than spouting regurgitated mindless garbage that people like to repeat just to do it. Ill update this post once I run through the bottom tier total team ranked teams.

Your foolhardiness increases with every word that flys off your keyboard.

(08-04-2017 08:57 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-03-2017 03:57 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(08-03-2017 01:58 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(08-03-2017 07:23 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-02-2017 01:24 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Troutbummike pay no attention to this wanna be Phil Steele. He has only blown up arguments in his own mind. I've been following recruiting longer than this guy has been alive. I regularly talk to coaches and people who actually run recruiting sites. The guys doing the evualations will readily admit that due to the sheer numbers of players outside the high profile guys their rankings are mostly based on who has offered them

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Following recruiting...lol. I also did not blow them up with opinion I did it with actual numbers from my own and countless articles that dispel the ignorance. No take off your shoes hill billy and come with some analysis like I did or get back to reading Goat Fancy. Yes then when the total team talent rankings come out for 2017 we will see how the majority of teams due in relation to their talent. Want to place any bets? If player rankings do not matter and they just go off offers, which is a lie, then you take the lowest recruit rated team in each conf and I'll take the highest one.

LOL. Hillbilly... If you only knew... Had a good friend who is a GSU fan warn me about you. You really haven't ever been wrong have you? Testosterone has made a fool.out of many a young man. Guess I should have listened.

Most of the guys evualating players are self proclaimed experts. Few, if any, have coaching or playing experience past Saturday Morning Rec League. They don't have a clue what to look for. But that shouldn't come ss a surprise since most of these guys think they know more than every coach in the land. All the spreadsheets & formulas in the world can't beat the evaluation by an experienced coach.

Oh, I forgot App is an exception.

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The recruiting industry has been around long enough now that any evaluator whose rankings have not been consistent with player's future performance have been weeded out. Judging a football player's abilities doesn't require any special insider secret sauce, just experience, knowledge and the willingness to put in the time.

No no no you have to be Nick Saban to know a 6'5" 350 kid that moves like a LB will make a really good DT..everybody knows that. Also you know there was that one kid that one time that was not even rated and made the NFL and oh yeah that one team that beat the P5 team that one time...sooooo

For once you are right! Any moron can tell that guy can play and that's about as far as it goes evualating talent on these sites.

(08-04-2017 09:02 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-03-2017 10:43 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Number of 3 star players signed by App in 2013/14/15/16 classes - 19
Number remaining entering the 2017 season - 8
Number making significant starts - 1

Those 3 star guys really make your team a shared championship contender.

2018 commits
3 star QB no FBS offers
2 star LB 12 FBS offers.

Who was the other team in the conf? Oh the highest rated talent team and where did ULM, NMSU, GaSt finish who were in the bottom four in talent rankings. Hmmm yes guy nobody ever said coaching, retention and development dont play a factor. In the case of Idaho schedule does as well. Exchange out ULM and TSXT with App and ArkSt and they have two more losses.

It was a general statement knucklehead. We'll see if App can get a Conf Championship all to themselves this year like the Eagles did when thay bypassed the two best teams in the conference.

(08-04-2017 09:02 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Here is a link to Ranking by Offers for a little different look:

http://www.rankbyoffers.com/2018fbteams/

Now this is legit. Coaches who get out and see these kids in person know who can play. Computer geeks who never see a kid in person and base their evualations on highlight tapes do not. Thanks for posting. I'll bookmark this site.

So for the folks that think App has not been an outlier and are mentally lazily using them as an individual example and or recruit rankings are not a reliable indicator of a teams sucess the five non service academy teams above and below App in total team talent rankings went 50-75 only three having winning records, four bowl games in the ten which only two were won and only one by a team not in the exact same group aaaannnd ZERO conference championships.

So for the statistically impaired in App's neighborhood of talent having a winning record is not likely, making a bowl not likely, winning a bowl against a team out of your talent neighborhood not likley, winning a conf championship not likely.....Honestly its not hard... You have to go another six teams up to find the next team with a winning record. So extending it out to the ten even eleven closest teams will only make it worse and make my case more overall. There are only seven teams below App so I kept it at five closest. The only team that would within ten teams is Idaho and they had better than normal year. I left out Navy and Army because they can take as many kids as they want and do not have scholarships. Not hard to find more diamonds in the rough when you have 47 commits in one year. See not regurgitated nonsense and mindless individual examples...Conclusions based on reality and not BS pulled out of my ass.

http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Footbal...tComposite These are not totally updated but I doubt teams move around much based on one year. I re run this at the end of the year and we will just compare again maybe the to half G5 vs the bottom half in total team rankings or top 25 vs bottom 25. I already know how it is going to come out and I bet the silence will be deafening from the non believers like it will be with this post likely.

(08-04-2017 09:57 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 09:02 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Here is a link to Ranking by Offers for a little different look:

http://www.rankbyoffers.com/2018fbteams/

Now this is legit. Coaches who get out and see these kids in person know who can play. Computer geeks who never see a kid in person and base their evualations on highlight tapes do not. Thanks for posting. I'll bookmark this site.

Hmmm yet many of these kids are ranked high well before all those offers roll in.... Weird a five star is ton more likely to make the NFL than a four and four is way more likely than a three and so on. Oh an also to start and make a second contract.....so weird. Teams with higher ranked talent no matter what conference or level G5 or P5 win more, win more CC's, make bowls and win them....yes those "geeks" some of which actually attend every single major sponsored camp to see recruits live have no clue...

Two flies in the ointment with these rankings that probably mirror 24/7 closlely anyway with those "geek" ratings are:

Considerations:

There are some variables that should be taken into consideration when reviewing a player’s ranking. Players who commit to a college early, for instance, may be penalized in these rankings because other colleges are less likely to extend an offer to a prospect who is already committed.

And

2) Each offer is assigned a value based upon rankings derived from players’ commitments and the offers they decline. A description of the weighting methodology, along with the values for each program, can be found here: http://www.rankbyoffers.com/teamweightings/

no better than the 24/7 geeks...as this guy is probably a "geek" assigning values to all 130+/- teams based on his opinion and his "geeky" formulas. I guess you go with whatever "geek" fits your narrative

(08-04-2017 10:04 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 09:57 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 09:02 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Here is a link to Ranking by Offers for a little different look:

http://www.rankbyoffers.com/2018fbteams/

Now this is legit. Coaches who get out and see these kids in person know who can play. Computer geeks who never see a kid in person and base their evualations on highlight tapes do not. Thanks for posting. I'll bookmark this site.

Hmmm yet many of these kids are ranked high well before all those offers roll in.... Weird a five star is ton more likely to make the NFL than a four and four is way more likely than a three and so on. Oh an also to start and make a second contract.....so weird. Teams with higher ranked talent no matter what conference or level G5 or P5 win more, win more CC's, make bowls and win them....yes those "geeks" some of which actually attend every single major sponsored camp to see recruits live have no clue...

I take it you were or are one of those geeks?

(08-04-2017 10:07 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 10:04 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 09:57 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 09:02 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Here is a link to Ranking by Offers for a little different look:

http://www.rankbyoffers.com/2018fbteams/

Now this is legit. Coaches who get out and see these kids in person know who can play. Computer geeks who never see a kid in person and base their evualations on highlight tapes do not. Thanks for posting. I'll bookmark this site.

Hmmm yet many of these kids are ranked high well before all those offers roll in.... Weird a five star is ton more likely to make the NFL than a four and four is way more likely than a three and so on. Oh an also to start and make a second contract.....so weird. Teams with higher ranked talent no matter what conference or level G5 or P5 win more, win more CC's, make bowls and win them....yes those "geeks" some of which actually attend every single major sponsored camp to see recruits live have no clue...

I take it you were or are one of those geeks?

No just know some on the inside and took the time to run numbers and read about twenty or so articles on these rankings vs things like winning, draft picks, all american selections etc etc..I guess if knowing how to run a basic spread sheet and being able to use google makes me a "geek" than guilty and proud of it. I love when people use the word "geek" actually, it basically means people smarter than them.

(08-04-2017 09:46 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 09:02 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-03-2017 10:43 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Number of 3 star players signed by App in 2013/14/15/16 classes - 19
Number remaining entering the 2017 season - 8
Number making significant starts - 1

Those 3 star guys really make your team a shared championship contender.

2018 commits
3 star QB no FBS offers
2 star LB 12 FBS offers.

Who was the other team in the conf? Oh the highest rated talent team and where did ULM, NMSU, GaSt finish who were in the bottom four in talent rankings. Hmmm yes guy nobody ever said coaching, retention and development dont play a factor. In the case of Idaho schedule does as well. Exchange out ULM and TSXT with App and ArkSt and they have two more losses.

It was a general statement knucklehead. We'll see if App can get a Conf Championship all to themselves this year like the Eagles did when thay bypassed the two best teams in the conference.

In fairness, the QB on tape seems to be quality. I imagine he will have some FBS offers coming this season. App hasn't had a QB with as much talent as Edwards or Richie Williams since moving to FBS. I imagine both of them were largely overlooked as FBS QB's.

(08-04-2017 09:41 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 08:55 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-03-2017 01:58 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(08-03-2017 07:23 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-02-2017 01:24 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Troutbummike pay no attention to this wanna be Phil Steele. He has only blown up arguments in his own mind. I've been following recruiting longer than this guy has been alive. I regularly talk to coaches and people who actually run recruiting sites. The guys doing the evualations will readily admit that due to the sheer numbers of players outside the high profile guys their rankings are mostly based on who has offered them

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Following recruiting...lol. I also did not blow them up with opinion I did it with actual numbers from my own and countless articles that dispel the ignorance. No take off your shoes hill billy and come with some analysis like I did or get back to reading Goat Fancy. Yes then when the total team talent rankings come out for 2017 we will see how the majority of teams due in relation to their talent. Want to place any bets? If player rankings do not matter and they just go off offers, which is a lie, then you take the lowest recruit rated team in each conf and I'll take the highest one.

LOL. Hillbilly... If you only knew... Had a good friend who is a GSU fan warn me about you. You really haven't ever been wrong have you? Testosterone has made a fool.out of many a young man. Guess I should have listened.

Most of the guys evualating players are self proclaimed experts. Few, if any, have coaching or playing experience past Saturday Morning Rec League. They don't have a clue what to look for. But that shouldn't come ss a surprise since most of these guys think they know more than every coach in the land. All the spreadsheets & formulas in the world can't beat the evaluation by an experienced coach.

Oh, I forgot App is an exception.

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Lots of talk talk talk and no articles or analysis.....and App is the exception if you actually take the time to look at the results of teams around them in the total team talent ranking but that would take effort and willingness to admit you are dead wrong which you are. You seem more like the regurgitate crap I heard ten years ago type of fanatic moron rather than actually looking stuff up or educating yourself on something. I am wrong quite a bit but not about this will I will show with spending about ten minutes on a spread sheet...I know that is a lot of effort rather than spouting regurgitated mindless garbage that people like to repeat just to do it. Ill update this post once I run through the bottom tier total team ranked teams.

Your foolhardiness increases with every word that flys off your keyboard.

Still not one article linked or one number crunched...typical. All you have is lame insults and NOTHING to back up your ignorant opinions.

(08-04-2017 01:09 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 09:46 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 09:02 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-03-2017 10:43 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Number of 3 star players signed by App in 2013/14/15/16 classes - 19
Number remaining entering the 2017 season - 8
Number making significant starts - 1

Those 3 star guys really make your team a shared championship contender.

2018 commits
3 star QB no FBS offers
2 star LB 12 FBS offers.

Who was the other team in the conf? Oh the highest rated talent team and where did ULM, NMSU, GaSt finish who were in the bottom four in talent rankings. Hmmm yes guy nobody ever said coaching, retention and development dont play a factor. In the case of Idaho schedule does as well. Exchange out ULM and TSXT with App and ArkSt and they have two more losses.

It was a general statement knucklehead. We'll see if App can get a Conf Championship all to themselves this year like the Eagles did when thay bypassed the two best teams in the conference.

In fairness, the QB on tape seems to be quality. I imagine he will have some FBS offers coming this season. App hasn't had a QB with as much talent as Edwards or Richie Williams since moving to FBS. I imagine both of them were largely overlooked as FBS QB's.

Lamb will break records this year, and if we have a decent receiving corps, look out.

(08-04-2017 09:46 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 09:02 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-03-2017 10:43 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Number of 3 star players signed by App in 2013/14/15/16 classes - 19
Number remaining entering the 2017 season - 8
Number making significant starts - 1

Those 3 star guys really make your team a shared championship contender.

2018 commits
3 star QB no FBS offers
2 star LB 12 FBS offers.

Who was the other team in the conf? Oh the highest rated talent team and where did ULM, NMSU, GaSt finish who were in the bottom four in talent rankings. Hmmm yes guy nobody ever said coaching, retention and development dont play a factor. In the case of Idaho schedule does as well. Exchange out ULM and TSXT with App and ArkSt and they have two more losses.

It was a general statement knucklehead. We'll see if App can get a Conf Championship all to themselves this year like the Eagles did when thay bypassed the two best teams in the conference.

and if you do you will likely be the only team in the bottom 25 in talent rankings to do so...which is the point which flies over your head...somehow. Who were the two best teams? App finished third in 2014 moron and we crushed you... you were one of the next two best teams.... and you beat the second place team....Good Lord you are something special.....

(08-04-2017 03:27 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 09:46 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 09:02 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-03-2017 10:43 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Number of 3 star players signed by App in 2013/14/15/16 classes - 19
Number remaining entering the 2017 season - 8
Number making significant starts - 1

Those 3 star guys really make your team a shared championship contender.

2018 commits
3 star QB no FBS offers
2 star LB 12 FBS offers.

Who was the other team in the conf? Oh the highest rated talent team and where did ULM, NMSU, GaSt finish who were in the bottom four in talent rankings. Hmmm yes guy nobody ever said coaching, retention and development dont play a factor. In the case of Idaho schedule does as well. Exchange out ULM and TSXT with App and ArkSt and they have two more losses.

It was a general statement knucklehead. We'll see if App can get a Conf Championship all to themselves this year like the Eagles did when thay bypassed the two best teams in the conference.

and if you do you will likely be the only team in the bottom 25 in talent rankings to do so...which is the point which flies over your head...somehow. Who were the two best teams? App finished third in 2014 moron and we crushed you... you were one of the next two best teams.... and you beat the second place team....Good Lord you are something special.....

You are actually bragging about a team loaded with upperclassmen beating a bunch of redshirt freshmen? You are seriously going to talk trash after those same redshirt freshmen came back to thrash your Eagles 65-23 the last two years? Are you are seriously going to talk smack after getting whipped 10 out of the last 15 years? Remmber Summers has only been there 1 year, so what excuse are yoiu using for 2015 with the great Willie Quitz at the helm? If you wanna see a moron, just look in the mirror. I'm done with you. Tan largo tonto!

(08-04-2017 09:02 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-03-2017 10:43 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Number of 3 star players signed by App in 2013/14/15/16 classes - 19
Number remaining entering the 2017 season - 8
Number making significant starts - 1

Those 3 star guys really make your team a shared championship contender.

2018 commits
3 star QB no FBS offers
2 star LB 12 FBS offers.

Who was the other team in the conf? Oh the highest rated talent team and where did ULM, NMSU, GaSt finish who were in the bottom four in talent rankings. Hmmm yes guy nobody ever said coaching, retention and development dont play a factor. In the case of Idaho schedule does as well. Exchange out ULM and TSXT with App and ArkSt and they have two more losses.

We actually did play Idaho. Beat them 37-19.

(08-04-2017 07:56 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 03:27 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 09:46 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 09:02 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-03-2017 10:43 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Number of 3 star players signed by App in 2013/14/15/16 classes - 19
Number remaining entering the 2017 season - 8
Number making significant starts - 1

Those 3 star guys really make your team a shared championship contender.

2018 commits
3 star QB no FBS offers
2 star LB 12 FBS offers.

Who was the other team in the conf? Oh the highest rated talent team and where did ULM, NMSU, GaSt finish who were in the bottom four in talent rankings. Hmmm yes guy nobody ever said coaching, retention and development dont play a factor. In the case of Idaho schedule does as well. Exchange out ULM and TSXT with App and ArkSt and they have two more losses.

It was a general statement knucklehead. We'll see if App can get a Conf Championship all to themselves this year like the Eagles did when thay bypassed the two best teams in the conference.

and if you do you will likely be the only team in the bottom 25 in talent rankings to do so...which is the point which flies over your head...somehow. Who were the two best teams? App finished third in 2014 moron and we crushed you... you were one of the next two best teams.... and you beat the second place team....Good Lord you are something special.....

You are actually bragging about a team loaded with upperclassmen beating a bunch of redshirt freshmen? You are seriously going to talk trash after those same redshirt freshmen came back to thrash your Eagles 65-23 the last two years? Are you are seriously going to talk smack after getting whipped 10 out of the last 15 years? Remmber Summers has only been there 1 year, so what excuse are yoiu using for 2015 with the great Willie Quitz at the helm? If you wanna see a moron, just look in the mirror. I'm done with you. Tan largo tonto!

Stating facts is not bragging. we did crush you and you were asserting that we only won a CC for bypassing the best teams which was a lie since the two next best teams as far a conference finish were APP and ArkSt. We beat you and you beat ArkSt....again super special....Please oh please dont be done ... your idiocy is quite entertaining.

Again I provided the link to t 24/7's total team talent rankings and none of the naysayers have yet to comment on it....weird....I do it again so you can tell me how these rankings dont matter yet bowl games, winning records, conference championships are so scarce in the bottom 25....Honestly I cant wait until the end of the year to rerun the numbers. I am sure there will be a few players and teams out of bunch that will buck the trend so the mentally lazy will be able to hang on to from week to week and then conviently vanish at the end when the total team talent rankings prove me right again.

Here it is again I am sure the silence will be deafening as it was before

http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Footbal...tComposite