He let tubberville stay 2 years longer than he should have been here. He lives in Colorado and is basically mia from cincinnati the way i understand it, at least up until last year.

(06-08-2017 05:56 AM)crex043 Wrote:  Who was responsible for hiring Bohn here?

Santa.

(06-08-2017 06:47 AM)@ES Trader Wrote:  He let tubberville stay 2 years longer than he should have been here. He lives in Colorado and is basically mia from cincinnati the way i understand it, at least up until last year.

"Thanks for the conference championship coach, now beat it!"

(06-08-2017 07:00 AM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 06:47 AM)@ES Trader Wrote:  He let tubberville stay 2 years longer than he should have been here. He lives in Colorado and is basically mia from cincinnati the way i understand it, at least up until last year.

"Thanks for the conference championship coach, now beat it!"

Because so many schools fire a coach after a 9 win season.

(06-08-2017 07:00 AM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 06:47 AM)@ES Trader Wrote:  He let tubberville stay 2 years longer than he should have been here. He lives in Colorado and is basically mia from cincinnati the way i understand it, at least up until last year.

"Thanks for the conference championship coach, now beat it!"

Exactly. One could argue one year later, but two years is just silly considering UC had won a share of the AAC title in 2014 and should have competed again with all that talent returning the next season.

I think the whole Colorado argument is really blown out of the water now when you consider the accomplishments in three years. Moreover, he personally was involved in the hires of Fickell and Googins. Not only did he pick these guys, he drove out to their homes and with their families to sell the deal. That's impressive in my book. I personally like how he brought Fickell with him to meet Googins.

IMHO these last two hires show he is very committed to building a strong program here.

Really please with the job Mike Bohn is doing... The Tubberville situation could of got messy,,, but it didn't and I am very happy
with Coach Luke... Not sure what prompted the sudden stepping down of Ty Neal,,, but once again,,, a smooth transition to Googins...

i'll just, you know, i won't vote, but just agree with a good percentage of you fine folk

(06-08-2017 07:00 AM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 06:47 AM)@ES Trader Wrote:  He let tubberville stay 2 years longer than he should have been here. He lives in Colorado and is basically mia from cincinnati the way i understand it, at least up until last year.

"Thanks for the conference championship coach, now beat it!"

Jeez with your logic why did we fire him after one down season and a season removed from a conference championship.

(06-08-2017 11:06 AM)@ES Trader Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 07:00 AM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 06:47 AM)@ES Trader Wrote:  He let tubberville stay 2 years longer than he should have been here. He lives in Colorado and is basically mia from cincinnati the way i understand it, at least up until last year.

"Thanks for the conference championship coach, now beat it!"

Jeez with your logic why did we fire him after one down season and a season removed from a conference championship.

You don't fire a coach after two 9 win seasons. Get real.

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(06-08-2017 11:06 AM)@ES Trader Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 07:00 AM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 06:47 AM)@ES Trader Wrote:  He let tubberville stay 2 years longer than he should have been here. He lives in Colorado and is basically mia from cincinnati the way i understand it, at least up until last year.

"Thanks for the conference championship coach, now beat it!"

Jeez with your logic why did we fire him after one down season and a season removed from a conference championship.

2 seasons removed... but completely different scenario. You don't want to be the program that fires a guy in year 2 after a 9 win season. A few blue bloods could be that program but I think it gets harder to get quality coaches when you don't give them a legitimate chance. Additionally, the buyout was still very high at that point. I thought he handled the Tuberville situation correctly. I'd have been fine with him going 1 year earlier but 4 years seems reasonable and the way the buyout was structured made more sense for moving on the prime candidates at the right time. There is a lot to consider when moving on from a coach.

(06-08-2017 11:09 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 11:06 AM)@ES Trader Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 07:00 AM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 06:47 AM)@ES Trader Wrote:  He let tubberville stay 2 years longer than he should have been here. He lives in Colorado and is basically mia from cincinnati the way i understand it, at least up until last year.

"Thanks for the conference championship coach, now beat it!"

Jeez with your logic why did we fire him after one down season and a season removed from a conference championship.

You don't fire a coach after two 9 win seasons. Get real.

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Look at who we played and think about the pay calling in those games...probably should have lost only one game both of those years. did rdaiv just run up the middle again?

How about you fire him for not recruiting the local schools or not coaching the *** **** team. We know the way the program is being handled is not the right way but since he won 9 games against crap competition lets just look the other way.

(06-08-2017 11:12 AM)@ES Trader Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 11:09 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 11:06 AM)@ES Trader Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 07:00 AM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 06:47 AM)@ES Trader Wrote:  He let tubberville stay 2 years longer than he should have been here. He lives in Colorado and is basically mia from cincinnati the way i understand it, at least up until last year.

"Thanks for the conference championship coach, now beat it!"

Jeez with your logic why did we fire him after one down season and a season removed from a conference championship.

You don't fire a coach after two 9 win seasons. Get real.

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Look at who we played and think about the pay calling in those games...probably should have lost only one game both of those years. did rdaiv just run up the middle again?

I'd have fired him after the BYU game in Utah in his third year, however thats assuming a prime candidate will be available that offseason AND it doesn't break the bank to fire him. But to fire him in the offseason after a nine win conference championship season is ridiculous. Sure, things weren't all sunshine and rainbows those first two years, but there was nothing to fire him over.

Bohn eventually fired him and did his due dillingence and seemingly found the absolute perfect fit for us.

(06-08-2017 11:18 AM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  I'd have fired him after the BYU game in Utah in his third year, however thats assuming a prime candidate will be available that offseason AND it doesn't break the bank to fire him. But to fire him in the offseason after a nine win conference championship season is ridiculous. Sure, things weren't all sunshine and rainbows those first two years, but there was nothing to fire him over.

The buyout was still very large until after the bowls in 2016 (may have even been February or March when buyout dropped I can't remember). It wasn't feasible for UC to fire Tuberville as early as people want and by the time they could have the coaching movement would have been largely decided. Giving him that 4th year and moving up the buyout gave UC much more flexibility with the coaching search. And hell if he got it turned around, even better.

(06-08-2017 11:22 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 11:18 AM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  I'd have fired him after the BYU game in Utah in his third year, however thats assuming a prime candidate will be available that offseason AND it doesn't break the bank to fire him. But to fire him in the offseason after a nine win conference championship season is ridiculous. Sure, things weren't all sunshine and rainbows those first two years, but there was nothing to fire him over.

The buyout was still very large until after the bowls in 2016 (may have even been February or March when buyout dropped I can't remember). It wasn't feasible for UC to fire Tuberville as early as people want and by the time they could have the coaching movement would have been largely decided. Giving him that 4th year and moving up the buyout gave UC much more flexibility with the coaching search. And hell if he got it turned around, even better.

Yeah it was still $2.4M at the time, which is too much money to pay for him to sit home (not to mention pay the new coach). Under the terms of the contract, and per negotiations we were able to cut ties with Tuberville for $1M after last season.

(06-08-2017 11:47 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 11:22 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 11:18 AM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  I'd have fired him after the BYU game in Utah in his third year, however thats assuming a prime candidate will be available that offseason AND it doesn't break the bank to fire him. But to fire him in the offseason after a nine win conference championship season is ridiculous. Sure, things weren't all sunshine and rainbows those first two years, but there was nothing to fire him over.

The buyout was still very large until after the bowls in 2016 (may have even been February or March when buyout dropped I can't remember). It wasn't feasible for UC to fire Tuberville as early as people want and by the time they could have the coaching movement would have been largely decided. Giving him that 4th year and moving up the buyout gave UC much more flexibility with the coaching search. And hell if he got it turned around, even better.

Yeah it was still $2.4M at the time, which is too much money to pay for him to sit home (not to mention pay the new coach). Under the terms of the contract, and per negotiations we were able to cut ties with Tuberville for $1M after last season.

It was actually 6.6 million until January 31, 2016... then it dropped to 2.4. Had UC fired him after the BYU game. the buyout was 6.6 million. Had they fired him after the regular season it was 6.6 million. Had they fired him after the bowls, it was 6.6 million. They had to wait until basically the coaching searches were done for the buyout to drop to 2.4 million. Had UC fired him at the end of year 2 as was suggested, his buyout was 8.8 million.

https://hkm.com/football/contracts/tommy-tuberville/

(06-08-2017 11:57 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 11:47 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 11:22 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 11:18 AM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  I'd have fired him after the BYU game in Utah in his third year, however thats assuming a prime candidate will be available that offseason AND it doesn't break the bank to fire him. But to fire him in the offseason after a nine win conference championship season is ridiculous. Sure, things weren't all sunshine and rainbows those first two years, but there was nothing to fire him over.

The buyout was still very large until after the bowls in 2016 (may have even been February or March when buyout dropped I can't remember). It wasn't feasible for UC to fire Tuberville as early as people want and by the time they could have the coaching movement would have been largely decided. Giving him that 4th year and moving up the buyout gave UC much more flexibility with the coaching search. And hell if he got it turned around, even better.

Yeah it was still $2.4M at the time, which is too much money to pay for him to sit home (not to mention pay the new coach). Under the terms of the contract, and per negotiations we were able to cut ties with Tuberville for $1M after last season.

It was actually 6.6 million until January 31, 2016... then it dropped to 2.4. Had UC fired him after the BYU game. the buyout was 6.6 million. Had they fired him after the regular season it was 6.6 million. Had they fired him after the bowls, it was 6.6 million. They had to wait until basically the coaching searches were done for the buyout to drop to 2.4 million. Had UC fired him at the end of year 2 as was suggested, his buyout was 8.8 million.

https://hkm.com/football/contracts/tommy-tuberville/

So 8.8 mil to pay him not to coach after his second season. And what would that have told potential new candidates? "Come to UC, where we have zero issue firing you for nearly ten million dollars after you win a conference championship! Go Bearcats!" Who in their right mind would work for an administration like that.

But alas, it luckily didn't go down like that. Glad Santa Ono hired Bohn and I'm glad Bohn hired Fickell.

If Bohn knew about Tubs never visiting any of the key local high schools he should've fired him after year three for neglecting his duties and made him take us to court to recover any money. That said it's one year difference all things considered he's doing a great job.

(06-08-2017 06:52 AM)ThinkBigPine Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 05:56 AM)crex043 Wrote:  Who was responsible for hiring Bohn here?

Santa.

I thought all he did was blow up twitter all day long.

(06-08-2017 06:47 AM)@ES Trader Wrote:  He let tubberville stay 2 years longer than he should have been here. He lives in Colorado and is basically mia from cincinnati the way i understand it, at least up until last year.

I'm in Denver on business and was in his town last night. Can't say I blame him. It's friggin beautiful out here.

The only issue I have had with Mike was the 'official' response to "go to hell, get a job". I was very disappointed with that but the right thing was done in the end so I can forgive & forget.

I just returned from BB&T and Mike gets huge props from me for selecting a top notch facility for MBB while the Shoe gets its makeover. No doubt in my mind this is by far the best alternative that was available.