(06-05-2017 01:36 PM)Bearcat 1985 Wrote:  Not sure if Thamel is pulling this out of his ass or this is some kind of legit list of people that OSU is talking to. I think the process may have started a couple of weeks ago while OSU and Matta's lawyers worked out the details of his exit.

https://twitter.com/SIPeteThamel/status/...3177063428

Quote:List for OSU: Xavier's Chris Mack, Arizona's Sean Miller, Texas Shaka Smart, Cincy Mick Cronin, VT's Buzz Williams, Butler's Chris Holtmann

The last 2 names on that list are the only real possibilities. But I look for them to make a big splash by bringing Billy D back from the pros.

Never liked Matta, never liked OSU basketball. I think their AD Smith needs to go too..
Love seeing them in turmoil, and recruiting shaky..

There is one BB power in the State,,UC Bearcats

(06-05-2017 01:25 PM)TubaCat Wrote:  Personal opinion warning here...

It's not like we're going to capitalize on this when it comes to recruiting. Mick isn't going to start outrecruiting OSU, despite us being the historically better program. Best case scenario is that OSU hires Mack and Xavier finally hires a dud, and we become the uncontested #2 profile program in Ohio, with a shot at #1 depending on the Mack/OSU fit. Worst case scenario is that OSU makes a home run hire of someone else, and we then drop to a distant #3 in coaching ability AND recruiting within the state. IMO, we are currently #3 in recruiting behind Xavier and OSU, but #2 in coaching behind Xavier. I realize that OSU's 2017 class is ranked lower than ours on 247, but they also brought in half as many players... Their average rating was almost 91 compared to our 87.

I'm not going to consider the notion of OSU hiring Cronin, because... well... he doesn't "seem like their type."

All just my opinion.

I agree, he's nowhere near the splash that Gene Smith will try to make. Screw Archie Miller, I could see them trying to make a run at Sean Miller with a MackTruck full'o'cash.

O$U just fired the best BB coach in their entire history.

I could see this being OSU's top 3:

Billy Donovan -- The home run hire. Sure, he's only been in the NBA for two years. But he obviously went to OKC to coach Durant and Westbrook. Now that Durant is gone, his ceiling is barely making the playoffs with Westbrook playing hero ball. And I don't think Westbrook is the kind of player who will attract big-time free agents -- he's too much of a lone wolf. With all the potential star free agents out of the playoffs, Donovan may already have a pretty good idea that help is not on the way and could wisely get out of dodge with his reputation in tact.

Sean Miller -- I think he would pass, but it doesn't mean they wouldn't try. He's on a recruiting hot streak at Arizona and has the benefit of coaching at a basketball-first school. He is from Pittsburgh, so perhaps the lure of being closer to home could factor in. But he hasn't shown interest in the Pitt job in the past, and while OSU is probably a step up from Pitt... it's not a step up from Arizona.

Chris Mack -- I don't particularly like the guy, but there's no doubt he can coach and he has the recruiting chops OSU will be looking for. He is doing well enough at Xavier though that I don't know if I see him leaving his alma mater.

(06-05-2017 01:36 PM)Bearcat 1985 Wrote:  Not sure if Thamel is pulling this out of his ass or this is some kind of legit list of people that OSU is talking to. I think the process may have started a couple of weeks ago while OSU and Matta's lawyers worked out the details of his exit.

https://twitter.com/SIPeteThamel/status/...3177063428

Quote:List for OSU: Xavier's Chris Mack, Arizona's Sean Miller, Texas Shaka Smart, Cincy Mick Cronin, VT's Buzz Williams, Butler's Chris Holtmann

I think this list will be as close as Cronin ever gets to that job.

(06-05-2017 01:53 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 01:36 PM)Bearcat 1985 Wrote:  Not sure if Thamel is pulling this out of his ass or this is some kind of legit list of people that OSU is talking to. I think the process may have started a couple of weeks ago while OSU and Matta's lawyers worked out the details of his exit.

https://twitter.com/SIPeteThamel/status/...3177063428

Quote:List for OSU: Xavier's Chris Mack, Arizona's Sean Miller, Texas Shaka Smart, Cincy Mick Cronin, VT's Buzz Williams, Butler's Chris Holtmann

I think this list will be as close as Cronin ever gets to that job.

Yeah, me too. If recruiting is one of the reasons Matta is being let go, they are going to want someone who has a track record of bringing in top recruiting classes. That eliminates half the names on that list.

I personally don't share the sentiment that Mack would prefer to coach at his alma mater. From what I gather (public behavior as well as some limited info from inside the program), Mack cares little about "integrity" and would gladly leave any job for a greater slice of pie.

At a national brand like OSU, he would:

1. Be able to recruit beyond his wildest dreams in Norwood

2. Have the best facilities money can buy

3. Fatten his wallet with 2x-3x the salary

4. Never be concerned with conference issues like poor media exposure, TV payout, realignment, etc.

5. Never have to deal with any local or in-state competition whatsoever, barring a timely NCAA tournament matchup or a radical change in Cronin's recruiting philosophy

(06-05-2017 01:52 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  I could see this being OSU's top 3:

Billy Donovan -- The home run hire. Sure, he's only been in the NBA for two years. But he obviously went to OKC to coach Durant and Westbrook. Now that Durant is gone, his ceiling is barely making the playoffs with Westbrook playing hero ball. And I don't think Westbrook is the kind of player who will attract big-time free agents -- he's too much of a lone wolf. With all the potential star free agents out of the playoffs, Donovan may already have a pretty good idea that help is not on the way and could wisely get out of dodge with his reputation in tact.

Sean Miller -- I think he would pass, but it doesn't mean they wouldn't try. He's on a recruiting hot streak at Arizona and has the benefit of coaching at a basketball-first school. He is from Pittsburgh, so perhaps the lure of being closer to home could factor in. But he hasn't shown interest in the Pitt job in the past, and while OSU is probably a step up from Pitt... it's not a step up from Arizona.

Chris Mack -- I don't particularly like the guy, but there's no doubt he can coach and he has the recruiting chops OSU will be looking for. He is doing well enough at Xavier though that I don't know if I see him leaving his alma mater.

i can't imagine Donovan coming back to CFB. His ceiling is no worse then most of the teams in the west not coached by Pop or stacked with four future HOFers. He'll be able to find continuous employment in the League, which loves to recycle HCs, and, unlike Cal, Kruger, Montgomery and Pitino, who were failures in the L, and relegated to returning to CBB, Donovan's minor success will probably allow him to stay for a little bit. Long and short of it, i don't see any reason for him to return to the CBB ranks.

They said there won't be an interim appointment, but given the timing, how could they not have one? in any case, besides Mack and the Butler HC, the guy i would consider is Jaime Dixon from TCU. Never understood him taking off for TCU in the first place.

I would put Jay Wright on their wish list too.

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(06-05-2017 02:25 PM)eroc Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 01:52 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  I could see this being OSU's top 3:

Billy Donovan -- The home run hire. Sure, he's only been in the NBA for two years. But he obviously went to OKC to coach Durant and Westbrook. Now that Durant is gone, his ceiling is barely making the playoffs with Westbrook playing hero ball. And I don't think Westbrook is the kind of player who will attract big-time free agents -- he's too much of a lone wolf. With all the potential star free agents out of the playoffs, Donovan may already have a pretty good idea that help is not on the way and could wisely get out of dodge with his reputation in tact.

Sean Miller -- I think he would pass, but it doesn't mean they wouldn't try. He's on a recruiting hot streak at Arizona and has the benefit of coaching at a basketball-first school. He is from Pittsburgh, so perhaps the lure of being closer to home could factor in. But he hasn't shown interest in the Pitt job in the past, and while OSU is probably a step up from Pitt... it's not a step up from Arizona.

Chris Mack -- I don't particularly like the guy, but there's no doubt he can coach and he has the recruiting chops OSU will be looking for. He is doing well enough at Xavier though that I don't know if I see him leaving his alma mater.

i can't imagine Donovan coming back to CFB. His ceiling is no worse then most of the teams in the west not coached by Pop or stacked with four future HOFers. He'll be able to find continuous employment in the League, which loves to recycle HCs, and, unlike Cal, Kruger, Montgomery and Pitino, who were failures in the L, and relegated to returning to CBB, Donovan's minor success will probably allow him to stay for a little bit. Long and short of it, i don't see any reason for him to return to the CBB ranks.

They said there won't be an interim appointment, but given the timing, how could they not have one? in any case, besides Mack and the Butler HC, the guy i would consider is Jaime Dixon from TCU. Never understood him taking off for TCU in the first place.

TCU is his alma mater. Not sure how much that would play into a financial decision, but it was obvious that he wanted a new challenge and he did pretty well there this year what with winning the NIT and the most games since 1987....oddly enough, that was Dixon's senior year there.

(06-05-2017 02:35 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 02:25 PM)eroc Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 01:52 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  I could see this being OSU's top 3:

Billy Donovan -- The home run hire. Sure, he's only been in the NBA for two years. But he obviously went to OKC to coach Durant and Westbrook. Now that Durant is gone, his ceiling is barely making the playoffs with Westbrook playing hero ball. And I don't think Westbrook is the kind of player who will attract big-time free agents -- he's too much of a lone wolf. With all the potential star free agents out of the playoffs, Donovan may already have a pretty good idea that help is not on the way and could wisely get out of dodge with his reputation in tact.

Sean Miller -- I think he would pass, but it doesn't mean they wouldn't try. He's on a recruiting hot streak at Arizona and has the benefit of coaching at a basketball-first school. He is from Pittsburgh, so perhaps the lure of being closer to home could factor in. But he hasn't shown interest in the Pitt job in the past, and while OSU is probably a step up from Pitt... it's not a step up from Arizona.

Chris Mack -- I don't particularly like the guy, but there's no doubt he can coach and he has the recruiting chops OSU will be looking for. He is doing well enough at Xavier though that I don't know if I see him leaving his alma mater.

i can't imagine Donovan coming back to CFB. His ceiling is no worse then most of the teams in the west not coached by Pop or stacked with four future HOFers. He'll be able to find continuous employment in the League, which loves to recycle HCs, and, unlike Cal, Kruger, Montgomery and Pitino, who were failures in the L, and relegated to returning to CBB, Donovan's minor success will probably allow him to stay for a little bit. Long and short of it, i don't see any reason for him to return to the CBB ranks.

They said there won't be an interim appointment, but given the timing, how could they not have one? in any case, besides Mack and the Butler HC, the guy i would consider is Jaime Dixon from TCU. Never understood him taking off for TCU in the first place.

TCU is his alma mater. Not sure how much that would play into a financial decision, but it was obvious that he wanted a new challenge and he did pretty well there this year what with winning the NIT and the most games since 1987....oddly enough, that was Dixon's senior year there.

thx...can't believe i missed that...

Clay Hall‏ @claywsyx6
Insider says OSU wish list includes:
Brad Stevens, Tony Bennett, Jay Wright, Sean Miller & Billy Donovan.

(06-05-2017 02:44 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  Clay Hall‏ @claywsyx6
Insider says OSU wish list includes:
Brad Stevens, Tony Bennett, Jay Wright, Sean Miller & Billy Donovan.

I doubt Brad Stevens is leaving the Celtics. They have tons of cap space and draft picks (7 first rounders in the next 3 years) in the coming years. Plus, he has a better shot in the eastern conference. LeBron turns 33 in December and no one else in the east is in as good of shape long-term as Boston. Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens are about as smart of a GM/head coach combo as you'll find. I believe they have the tools to build a super team.

(06-05-2017 02:51 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 02:44 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  Clay Hall‏ @claywsyx6
Insider says OSU wish list includes:
Brad Stevens, Tony Bennett, Jay Wright, Sean Miller & Billy Donovan.

I doubt Brad Stevens is leaving the Celtics. They have tons of cap space and draft picks (7 first rounders in the next 3 years) in the coming years. Plus, he has a better shot in the eastern conference. LeBron turns 33 in December and no one else in the east is in as good of shape long-term as Boston. Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens are about as smart of a GM/head coach combo as you'll find. I believe they have the tools to build a super team.

Yeah, NO WAY does Brad Stevens leave. They're getting the #1 Pick or a King's Ransom for it, Gordon Hayward, and just made the Eastern Finals. OSU basketball is NOT OSU football

This'll probably go like every other OSU b-ball coaching search I've been around for. They'll swing for a few long shot fences, get shot down and then settle for somebody on their B list.

(06-05-2017 02:56 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 02:51 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 02:44 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  Clay Hall‏ @claywsyx6
Insider says OSU wish list includes:
Brad Stevens, Tony Bennett, Jay Wright, Sean Miller & Billy Donovan.

I doubt Brad Stevens is leaving the Celtics. They have tons of cap space and draft picks (7 first rounders in the next 3 years) in the coming years. Plus, he has a better shot in the eastern conference. LeBron turns 33 in December and no one else in the east is in as good of shape long-term as Boston. Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens are about as smart of a GM/head coach combo as you'll find. I believe they have the tools to build a super team.

Yeah, NO WAY does Brad Stevens leave. They're getting the #1 Pick or a King's Ransom for it, Gordon Hayward, and just made the Eastern Finals. OSU basketball is NOT OSU football

Agreed.

Moreover, usually when coaches leave the college ranks to go pro (especially at a young age live Stevens) it is because they tire out/no longer are interested in chasing 16/17 year old kids to come to their school. All they have to worry about is coaching basketball and doing post-game press conferences.

They are going to wind up with someone lower on their list-- maybe a Buzz Williams, Chris Mack or possible a Sean Miller if he decides he wants to come back to the Midwest.

(06-05-2017 02:44 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  Clay Hall‏ @claywsyx6
Insider says OSU wish list includes:
Brad Stevens, Tony Bennett, Jay Wright, Sean Miller & Billy Donovan.

Why in the heck would Miller leave freaking Arizona where he has everything he could possibly need.

(06-05-2017 03:42 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 02:44 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  Clay Hall‏ @claywsyx6
Insider says OSU wish list includes:
Brad Stevens, Tony Bennett, Jay Wright, Sean Miller & Billy Donovan.

Why in the heck would Miller leave freaking Arizona where he has everything he could possibly need.

Money....money is the answer

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/20...candidates