(06-09-2017 12:01 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(06-09-2017 09:08 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-09-2017 08:37 AM)Banter Wrote:  

(06-09-2017 08:33 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-09-2017 08:02 AM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  Chris Holtmann from Butler is OSU's new coach

That's a good hire for them. They were never going to pull a big fish like some of their delusional fans thought...he knows the Midwest, can coach, and could probably do quite well there. Still can't believe OSU fired a 49 year old, who is their most successful coach ever, won 3/4 of his games at OSU, and who never had anything even minorly resembling a scandal in 13 years at the helm.

If you followed Thad the past two or three seasons you can understand why OSU let him go. His health is declining, and he was unable to keep kids on the team. I am quite surprised they were going to give him another year. Most the media believed Thad deserved another year, but recruiting was a big issue.

If they used his health as a genuine reason, he should sue the **** out of them given OSU was the reason for those health issues (a botched back surgery at Wexner caused him to lose the ability to use his right foot) AND you cannot discriminate based on disability, whether natural or medically induced especially when it does not preclude you from doing your job.

He went to the second round of the NCAA Tourney in 2015, was a bubble team in 2016, and lost 4/5 starts and 7 core contributors in 2017 but still managed an above .500 record. The dude is a good, borderline great, coach and they just threw him out because Ohio State fans are idiots and think that challenging for NC's in basketball is norm, when realistically, Matta was the only reason why they did that in the first place. I'm fine with it, keeping OSU down for a few more years is a great thing for UC, but to argue that he should've been fired is ludicrous. And he was fired, regardless of what he said through gritted teeth at that press conference.

By that argument, Matt Painter should've been fired in 2014, and I'm sure Purdue fans are happy that that didn't happen.

You can fire a person for a disability IF the disability causes them to be unable to perform an essential job function.

But that's not what happened here. He was fired due to poor performance.

No matter how delusional OSU is about their expectations, it's still hard to argue that Matta has met his boss's expectations over the past 4 years.

Matta was NOT fired. They came to a mutual agreement that Ohio State would pay him the remaining three years on his contract and he would exit now. Essentially, they just aren't renewing his contract. I dislike OSU as much as anyone but I am not going to say they did anything unethical here.

(06-09-2017 12:38 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  

(06-09-2017 12:01 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(06-09-2017 09:08 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-09-2017 08:37 AM)Banter Wrote:  

(06-09-2017 08:33 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  That's a good hire for them. They were never going to pull a big fish like some of their delusional fans thought...he knows the Midwest, can coach, and could probably do quite well there. Still can't believe OSU fired a 49 year old, who is their most successful coach ever, won 3/4 of his games at OSU, and who never had anything even minorly resembling a scandal in 13 years at the helm.

If you followed Thad the past two or three seasons you can understand why OSU let him go. His health is declining, and he was unable to keep kids on the team. I am quite surprised they were going to give him another year. Most the media believed Thad deserved another year, but recruiting was a big issue.

If they used his health as a genuine reason, he should sue the **** out of them given OSU was the reason for those health issues (a botched back surgery at Wexner caused him to lose the ability to use his right foot) AND you cannot discriminate based on disability, whether natural or medically induced especially when it does not preclude you from doing your job.

He went to the second round of the NCAA Tourney in 2015, was a bubble team in 2016, and lost 4/5 starts and 7 core contributors in 2017 but still managed an above .500 record. The dude is a good, borderline great, coach and they just threw him out because Ohio State fans are idiots and think that challenging for NC's in basketball is norm, when realistically, Matta was the only reason why they did that in the first place. I'm fine with it, keeping OSU down for a few more years is a great thing for UC, but to argue that he should've been fired is ludicrous. And he was fired, regardless of what he said through gritted teeth at that press conference.

By that argument, Matt Painter should've been fired in 2014, and I'm sure Purdue fans are happy that that didn't happen.

You can fire a person for a disability IF the disability causes them to be unable to perform an essential job function.

But that's not what happened here. He was fired due to poor performance.

No matter how delusional OSU is about their expectations, it's still hard to argue that Matta has met his boss's expectations over the past 4 years.

Matta was NOT fired. They came to a mutual agreement that Ohio State would pay him the remaining three years on his contract and he would exit now. Essentially, they just aren't renewing his contract. I dislike OSU as much as anyone but I am not going to say they did anything unethical here.

Keep telling yourself that. While I understand the terms (and again, didn't imply anything was unethical, just that if the injury is being used as the reason then he would have legal standing for a wrongful termination), there is no way the agreement was mutual watching that man in the press conference.

I just think the big thing is that OSU/their fans haven't realized they aren't a competitive basketball school. Look at all the football blue bloods...there really is no overlap between having stellar football and having high quality basketball (and vice versa for that matter). Matta, Brey (ND), Barnes (Texas), and Donovan (Florida) bucked that trend, but they are indeed outliers.

(06-09-2017 12:38 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  

(06-09-2017 12:01 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(06-09-2017 09:08 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-09-2017 08:37 AM)Banter Wrote:  

(06-09-2017 08:33 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  That's a good hire for them. They were never going to pull a big fish like some of their delusional fans thought...he knows the Midwest, can coach, and could probably do quite well there. Still can't believe OSU fired a 49 year old, who is their most successful coach ever, won 3/4 of his games at OSU, and who never had anything even minorly resembling a scandal in 13 years at the helm.

If you followed Thad the past two or three seasons you can understand why OSU let him go. His health is declining, and he was unable to keep kids on the team. I am quite surprised they were going to give him another year. Most the media believed Thad deserved another year, but recruiting was a big issue.

If they used his health as a genuine reason, he should sue the **** out of them given OSU was the reason for those health issues (a botched back surgery at Wexner caused him to lose the ability to use his right foot) AND you cannot discriminate based on disability, whether natural or medically induced especially when it does not preclude you from doing your job.

He went to the second round of the NCAA Tourney in 2015, was a bubble team in 2016, and lost 4/5 starts and 7 core contributors in 2017 but still managed an above .500 record. The dude is a good, borderline great, coach and they just threw him out because Ohio State fans are idiots and think that challenging for NC's in basketball is norm, when realistically, Matta was the only reason why they did that in the first place. I'm fine with it, keeping OSU down for a few more years is a great thing for UC, but to argue that he should've been fired is ludicrous. And he was fired, regardless of what he said through gritted teeth at that press conference.

By that argument, Matt Painter should've been fired in 2014, and I'm sure Purdue fans are happy that that didn't happen.

You can fire a person for a disability IF the disability causes them to be unable to perform an essential job function.

But that's not what happened here. He was fired due to poor performance.

No matter how delusional OSU is about their expectations, it's still hard to argue that Matta has met his boss's expectations over the past 4 years.

Matta was NOT fired. They came to a mutual agreement that Ohio State would pay him the remaining three years on his contract and he would exit now. Essentially, they just aren't renewing his contract. I dislike OSU as much as anyone but I am not going to say they did anything unethical here.

I don't believe for a second that this was a "mutual agreement." That was just a nice way of saying that he has been fired.

Matta was fired the way the rest of us all dream of being fired. Given millions of dollars to leave.

Matta needs to take the next 2-3 years off and try to get his health in order. If he and his doctors can find a way to retain his mobility and manage his pain, he could land on his feet at another high-major school and coach another 10-15 years.

(06-09-2017 01:33 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Matta needs to take the next 2-3 years off and try to get his health in order. If he and his doctors can find a way to retain his mobility and manage his pain, he could land on his feet at another high-major school and coach another 10-15 years.

I agree...it is shocking that the dude is only 49 years old. I feel like he has been around forever.

In business we used to call it "outplaced"

(06-09-2017 02:03 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-09-2017 01:33 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Matta needs to take the next 2-3 years off and try to get his health in order. If he and his doctors can find a way to retain his mobility and manage his pain, he could land on his feet at another high-major school and coach another 10-15 years.

I agree...it is shocking that the dude is only 49 years old. I feel like he has been around forever.

I thought the dude was like 60.

(06-09-2017 07:40 PM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  

(06-09-2017 02:03 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-09-2017 01:33 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Matta needs to take the next 2-3 years off and try to get his health in order. If he and his doctors can find a way to retain his mobility and manage his pain, he could land on his feet at another high-major school and coach another 10-15 years.

I agree...it is shocking that the dude is only 49 years old. I feel like he has been around forever.

I thought the dude was like 60.

He's an old 49 based on his appearance. I hope he's able to improve his health.

His visible cartilage is late sixties, and that is being generous. May coincide with his arthritic issues. Then again, maybe not.

(06-05-2017 12:24 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 12:21 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  No surprise--- he's had a bad back for several years that has kept him off his feet.

The million dollar question is who will be Gargamel's replacement. I thought Archie Miller would have been the logical choice but the Buckeyes did not pull the trigger this year.

Is this the job that gets Mack out of this town?

O$U announced they hired Butler head coach. Tough luck for the big east fans that think they are in elite status now. haha

(06-09-2017 09:08 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-09-2017 08:37 AM)Banter Wrote:  

(06-09-2017 08:33 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-09-2017 08:02 AM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  Chris Holtmann from Butler is OSU's new coach

That's a good hire for them. They were never going to pull a big fish like some of their delusional fans thought...he knows the Midwest, can coach, and could probably do quite well there. Still can't believe OSU fired a 49 year old, who is their most successful coach ever, won 3/4 of his games at OSU, and who never had anything even minorly resembling a scandal in 13 years at the helm.

If you followed Thad the past two or three seasons you can understand why OSU let him go. His health is declining, and he was unable to keep kids on the team. I am quite surprised they were going to give him another year. Most the media believed Thad deserved another year, but recruiting was a big issue.

If they used his health as a genuine reason, he should sue the **** out of them given OSU was the reason for those health issues (a botched back surgery at Wexner caused him to lose the ability to use his right foot) AND you cannot discriminate based on disability, whether natural or medically induced especially when it does not preclude you from doing your job.

He went to the second round of the NCAA Tourney in 2015, was a bubble team in 2016, and lost 4/5 starts and 7 core contributors in 2017 but still managed an above .500 record. The dude is a good, borderline great, coach and they just threw him out because Ohio State fans are idiots and think that challenging for NC's in basketball is norm, when realistically, Matta was the only reason why they did that in the first place. I'm fine with it, keeping OSU down for a few more years is a great thing for UC, but to argue that he should've been fired is ludicrous. And he was fired, regardless of what he said through gritted teeth at that press conference.

By that argument, Matt Painter should've been fired in 2014, and I'm sure Purdue fans are happy that that didn't happen.

maybe Matta will get a head coaching jog at St. Xavier high school when it becomes available. :)

(06-09-2017 12:38 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  

(06-09-2017 12:01 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(06-09-2017 09:08 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-09-2017 08:37 AM)Banter Wrote:  

(06-09-2017 08:33 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  That's a good hire for them. They were never going to pull a big fish like some of their delusional fans thought...he knows the Midwest, can coach, and could probably do quite well there. Still can't believe OSU fired a 49 year old, who is their most successful coach ever, won 3/4 of his games at OSU, and who never had anything even minorly resembling a scandal in 13 years at the helm.

If you followed Thad the past two or three seasons you can understand why OSU let him go. His health is declining, and he was unable to keep kids on the team. I am quite surprised they were going to give him another year. Most the media believed Thad deserved another year, but recruiting was a big issue.

If they used his health as a genuine reason, he should sue the **** out of them given OSU was the reason for those health issues (a botched back surgery at Wexner caused him to lose the ability to use his right foot) AND you cannot discriminate based on disability, whether natural or medically induced especially when it does not preclude you from doing your job.

He went to the second round of the NCAA Tourney in 2015, was a bubble team in 2016, and lost 4/5 starts and 7 core contributors in 2017 but still managed an above .500 record. The dude is a good, borderline great, coach and they just threw him out because Ohio State fans are idiots and think that challenging for NC's in basketball is norm, when realistically, Matta was the only reason why they did that in the first place. I'm fine with it, keeping OSU down for a few more years is a great thing for UC, but to argue that he should've been fired is ludicrous. And he was fired, regardless of what he said through gritted teeth at that press conference.

By that argument, Matt Painter should've been fired in 2014, and I'm sure Purdue fans are happy that that didn't happen.

You can fire a person for a disability IF the disability causes them to be unable to perform an essential job function.

But that's not what happened here. He was fired due to poor performance.

No matter how delusional OSU is about their expectations, it's still hard to argue that Matta has met his boss's expectations over the past 4 years.

Matta was NOT fired. They came to a mutual agreement that Ohio State would pay him the remaining three years on his contract and he would exit now. Essentially, they just aren't renewing his contract. I dislike OSU as much as anyone but I am not going to say they did anything unethical here.

He was hosting a recruit when he was informed. This was not a mutual decision.

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Mick should hire Matta as director of basketball operations

(06-11-2017 01:46 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Mick should hire Matta as director of basketball operations

...or maybe as offensive coordinator

(06-11-2017 03:14 PM)cmhcat Wrote:  

(06-11-2017 01:46 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Mick should hire Matta as director of basketball operations

...or maybe as offensive coordinator

(06-09-2017 08:44 PM)glacier_dropsy Wrote:  His visible cartilage is late sixties, and that is being generous. May coincide with his arthritic issues. Then again, maybe not.

No doubt about it. I remember going back and forth in the same group as Matta between games at an AAU event and he looked and walked like a guy in pain with serious joint issues and that was 6 or 7 years ago. Not good - I wouldn't wish that on anybody.

I wish the best for Thad Matta. Hatred for the schools he has coached for aside, he seems like a genuinely good person.