Toledo isn't dark horse.. They're probably picked to be at the top of thir conference. Colorado State or SMU or UCF would be dark horse. Those teams have a chance but aren't expected to

(05-27-2017 01:10 AM)vcoog Wrote:  Toledo isn't dark horse.. They're probably picked to be at the top of thir conference. Colorado State or SMU or UCF would be dark horse. Those teams have a chance but aren't expected to

Idk what's wrong with me but I read your comment in a chinese man's voice...

(05-27-2017 12:05 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(05-26-2017 10:52 AM)fanhood Wrote:  Admittedly, I was surprised to see Street and Smith's have Tulsa picked to finish 2nd, while Memphis picked to finish 5th. What am I missing here?

From a national and probably even local perspective the FB Tigers don't have much experience with self promotion. They are likely better than being credited for. Honestly, I think most Tiger fans are holding their breath and pinching themselves. "Wait 'till next year" may have finally arrived.

Also, Tulsa is always tough and another typically underrated team (from a national perspective).

Wait, it just clicked that Memphis is picked 5th. That's too low to me. If they're not picked at least 3rd or better in conference that's ridiculous. Sure they could finish 5th, but everything says they shouldn't. They should be the West front runner this season.

I think anyone in the MW getting the NY6 bowl aside of Boise is a dark horse, It's pretty much Boise's league to win in the eyes of most people.

(05-27-2017 12:05 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(05-26-2017 10:52 AM)fanhood Wrote:  Admittedly, I was surprised to see Street and Smith's have Tulsa picked to finish 2nd, while Memphis picked to finish 5th. What am I missing here?

From a national and probably even local perspective the FB Tigers don't have much experience with self promotion. They are likely better than being credited for. Honestly, I think most Tiger fans are holding their breath and pinching themselves. "Wait 'till next year" may have finally arrived.

Also, Tulsa is always tough and another typically underrated team (from a national perspective).

Nice post. I wouldn't have been quite so tactful. Anybody who picks Memphis 5th is an effing moron. Of course, Street & Smith's no longer exists, so I smell a troll, lol.

(05-27-2017 07:00 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 12:05 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(05-26-2017 10:52 AM)fanhood Wrote:  Admittedly, I was surprised to see Street and Smith's have Tulsa picked to finish 2nd, while Memphis picked to finish 5th. What am I missing here?

From a national and probably even local perspective the FB Tigers don't have much experience with self promotion. They are likely better than being credited for. Honestly, I think most Tiger fans are holding their breath and pinching themselves. "Wait 'till next year" may have finally arrived.

Also, Tulsa is always tough and another typically underrated team (from a national perspective).

Nice post. I wouldn't have been quite so tactful. Anybody who picks Memphis 5th is an effing moron. Of course, Street & Smith's no longer exists, so I smell a troll, lol.

You should go to the book store. You will quickly find out that Street and Smith's does indeed exist. The pick was actually 4th, I just looked it back up.

Sorry pal, not my prediction. Just a preview mags. Damn, you are sensitive.

(05-27-2017 06:59 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  I think anyone in the MW getting the NY6 bowl aside of Boise is a dark horse, It's pretty much Boise's league to win in the eyes of most people.

Except for the fact that Boise has only won their division once in four years, lost to AFA three years in a row, and plays in the Mountain Division where five of six teams could win that division this year. Except for those things, you are right.

(05-27-2017 07:31 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 07:00 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 12:05 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(05-26-2017 10:52 AM)fanhood Wrote:  Admittedly, I was surprised to see Street and Smith's have Tulsa picked to finish 2nd, while Memphis picked to finish 5th. What am I missing here?

From a national and probably even local perspective the FB Tigers don't have much experience with self promotion. They are likely better than being credited for. Honestly, I think most Tiger fans are holding their breath and pinching themselves. "Wait 'till next year" may have finally arrived.

Also, Tulsa is always tough and another typically underrated team (from a national perspective).

Nice post. I wouldn't have been quite so tactful. Anybody who picks Memphis 5th is an effing moron. Of course, Street & Smith's no longer exists, so I smell a troll, lol.

You should go to the book store. You will quickly find out that Street and Smith's does indeed exist. Sorry pal, not my prediction. Just a preview mags. Damn, you are sensitive.

Not sensitive at all. I simply tried to find a link online to the magazine to read about it, if possible, and couldn't. A Street & Smith Publishing was merged years ago with other pubs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_%26_Smith

Then after your reply I looked again and found this, which I assume you are referring to.

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Corpo...Group.aspx

But it really doesn't matter.

If Street & Smith's or Simon & Schuster or Stephen A. Smith is predicting Memphis to finish 5th, then they need to stop predicting altogether.

(05-27-2017 07:37 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 07:31 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 07:00 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 12:05 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(05-26-2017 10:52 AM)fanhood Wrote:  Admittedly, I was surprised to see Street and Smith's have Tulsa picked to finish 2nd, while Memphis picked to finish 5th. What am I missing here?

From a national and probably even local perspective the FB Tigers don't have much experience with self promotion. They are likely better than being credited for. Honestly, I think most Tiger fans are holding their breath and pinching themselves. "Wait 'till next year" may have finally arrived.

Also, Tulsa is always tough and another typically underrated team (from a national perspective).

Nice post. I wouldn't have been quite so tactful. Anybody who picks Memphis 5th is an effing moron. Of course, Street & Smith's no longer exists, so I smell a troll, lol.

You should go to the book store. You will quickly find out that Street and Smith's does indeed exist. Sorry pal, not my prediction. Just a preview mags. Damn, you are sensitive.

Not sensitive at all, Look it up online. It was merged years ago with other pubs. Now maybe somebody uses the name to make football predictions, but it really doesn't matter.

If Street & Smith's or Simon & Schuster or Stephen A. Smith is predicting Memphis to finish 5th, they need to stop predicting altogether.

Do I need to send you a picture of my magazine? Nah, I'll just let one of your fellow Memphis fans correct you.

They were actually picked 4th BTW.

(05-27-2017 07:45 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 07:37 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 07:31 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 07:00 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 12:05 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  From a national and probably even local perspective the FB Tigers don't have much experience with self promotion. They are likely better than being credited for. Honestly, I think most Tiger fans are holding their breath and pinching themselves. "Wait 'till next year" may have finally arrived.

Also, Tulsa is always tough and another typically underrated team (from a national perspective).

Nice post. I wouldn't have been quite so tactful. Anybody who picks Memphis 5th is an effing moron. Of course, Street & Smith's no longer exists, so I smell a troll, lol.

You should go to the book store. You will quickly find out that Street and Smith's does indeed exist. Sorry pal, not my prediction. Just a preview mags. Damn, you are sensitive.

Not sensitive at all, Look it up online. It was merged years ago with other pubs. Now maybe somebody uses the name to make football predictions, but it really doesn't matter.

If Street & Smith's or Simon & Schuster or Stephen A. Smith is predicting Memphis to finish 5th, they need to stop predicting altogether.

Do I need to send you a picture of my magazine? Nah, I'll just let one of your fellow Memphis fans correct you.

They were actually picked 4th BTW.

Who was 1st and 3rd? USF and Houston?

(05-27-2017 07:45 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 07:37 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 07:31 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 07:00 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 12:05 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  From a national and probably even local perspective the FB Tigers don't have much experience with self promotion. They are likely better than being credited for. Honestly, I think most Tiger fans are holding their breath and pinching themselves. "Wait 'till next year" may have finally arrived.

Also, Tulsa is always tough and another typically underrated team (from a national perspective).

Nice post. I wouldn't have been quite so tactful. Anybody who picks Memphis 5th is an effing moron. Of course, Street & Smith's no longer exists, so I smell a troll, lol.

You should go to the book store. You will quickly find out that Street and Smith's does indeed exist. Sorry pal, not my prediction. Just a preview mags. Damn, you are sensitive.

Not sensitive at all, Look it up online. It was merged years ago with other pubs. Now maybe somebody uses the name to make football predictions, but it really doesn't matter.

If Street & Smith's or Simon & Schuster or Stephen A. Smith is predicting Memphis to finish 5th, they need to stop predicting altogether.

Do I need to send you a picture of my magazine? Nah, I'll just let one of your fellow Memphis fans correct you.

They were actually picked 4th BTW.

No, see my edited reply. It is actually listed now under Sports Business Daily, which makes it more difficult to find online. My first search showed nothing but Athlon and a publication by the same S&S name that went out of business. And I don't read or ever look for print magazines.

And next time get that 4th right, instead of 5th. j/k

And that prediction still sucks.

And is that for the West division, or for the conference in total? We don't really have finishes by total conference, so if they are picking us 4th in the West, that's even crazier.

Don't worry about us this year, we'll be bad. Hopefully we can play spoiler and knock off some of the rabble to help pave the way for some future (hopefully) P6 conference mates

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Our main enemy (playing Toledo) will be overconfidence after beating CMU so bad (55-10) last year in Miami. We have to realize that is past history and this MAC team (playing a home game) isn't that one in that bowl.

Athlon has Memphis at 9-4 and 1st in the West. I think that is conservative with Memphis schedule.

(05-27-2017 07:33 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 06:59 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  I think anyone in the MW getting the NY6 bowl aside of Boise is a dark horse, It's pretty much Boise's league to win in the eyes of most people.

Except for the fact that Boise has only won their division once in four years, lost to AFA three years in a row, and plays in the Mountain Division where five of six teams could win that division this year. Except for those things, you are right.

Yeah but your average fan doesn't know that. All they know from the MW is Boise so any other name is a Dark Horse.

(05-29-2017 02:51 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 07:33 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 06:59 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  I think anyone in the MW getting the NY6 bowl aside of Boise is a dark horse, It's pretty much Boise's league to win in the eyes of most people.

Except for the fact that Boise has only won their division once in four years, lost to AFA three years in a row, and plays in the Mountain Division where five of six teams could win that division this year. Except for those things, you are right.

Yeah but your average fan doesn't know that. All they know from the MW is Boise so any other name is a Dark Horse.

Great. But the "average fan" has zero say in the selection for the NY6 (the actual topic at hand).

(05-30-2017 08:52 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 02:51 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 07:33 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 06:59 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  I think anyone in the MW getting the NY6 bowl aside of Boise is a dark horse, It's pretty much Boise's league to win in the eyes of most people.

Except for the fact that Boise has only won their division once in four years, lost to AFA three years in a row, and plays in the Mountain Division where five of six teams could win that division this year. Except for those things, you are right.

Yeah but your average fan doesn't know that. All they know from the MW is Boise so any other name is a Dark Horse.

Great. But the "average fan" has zero say in the selection for the NY6 (the actual topic at hand).

You're giving too much credit to the CFP Selection Committee if you think their collective perspective of the MWC and Boise is materially different than that of the average fan.

(05-31-2017 09:33 AM)YNot Wrote:  

(05-30-2017 08:52 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 02:51 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 07:33 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 06:59 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  I think anyone in the MW getting the NY6 bowl aside of Boise is a dark horse, It's pretty much Boise's league to win in the eyes of most people.

Except for the fact that Boise has only won their division once in four years, lost to AFA three years in a row, and plays in the Mountain Division where five of six teams could win that division this year. Except for those things, you are right.

Yeah but your average fan doesn't know that. All they know from the MW is Boise so any other name is a Dark Horse.

Great. But the "average fan" has zero say in the selection for the NY6 (the actual topic at hand).

You're giving too much credit to the CFP Selection Committee if you think their collective perspective of the MWC and Boise is materially different than that of the average fan.

I am no fan of the cartel, but if you think that they are the same as the "average fan," I am not sure what to tell you.

(05-31-2017 09:48 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(05-31-2017 09:33 AM)YNot Wrote:  

(05-30-2017 08:52 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 02:51 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 07:33 AM)fanhood Wrote:  Except for the fact that Boise has only won their division once in four years, lost to AFA three years in a row, and plays in the Mountain Division where five of six teams could win that division this year. Except for those things, you are right.

Yeah but your average fan doesn't know that. All they know from the MW is Boise so any other name is a Dark Horse.

Great. But the "average fan" has zero say in the selection for the NY6 (the actual topic at hand).

You're giving too much credit to the CFP Selection Committee if you think their collective perspective of the MWC and Boise is materially different than that of the average fan.

I am no fan of the cartel, but if you think that they are the same as the "average fan," I am not sure what to tell you.

average fan is abit of stretch..but his point is bias still remains, in the minds of the committee bias still remains

knowledgeable or not knowledgeable Boise carries the perception of the mwc, boise is the king of that league and its not even debatable

(05-31-2017 09:48 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(05-31-2017 09:33 AM)YNot Wrote:  

(05-30-2017 08:52 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 02:51 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 07:33 AM)fanhood Wrote:  Except for the fact that Boise has only won their division once in four years, lost to AFA three years in a row, and plays in the Mountain Division where five of six teams could win that division this year. Except for those things, you are right.

Yeah but your average fan doesn't know that. All they know from the MW is Boise so any other name is a Dark Horse.

Great. But the "average fan" has zero say in the selection for the NY6 (the actual topic at hand).

You're giving too much credit to the CFP Selection Committee if you think their collective perspective of the MWC and Boise is materially different than that of the average fan.

I am no fan of the cartel, but if you think that they are the same as the "average fan," I am not sure what to tell you.

I did not say that the members of the committee are the same as the average fan. I said that their collective perspective of the MWC and Boise is not materially different than that of the average fan.

As pesik points out, the bias is strong. Boise would get at least a 5-spot bump in the rankings over any other MWC school with the exact same resume.