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RE: Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
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RE: Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
(06-01-2017 02:03 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  
(06-01-2017 01:44 PM)shocks21 Wrote:  Big East vs The American:

Villanova vs Wichita State
Creighton vs Cincinnati
Xavier vs SMU
Butler vs UCF
Providence vs UCONN
Seton Hall vs Temple
Georgetown vs Houston
Marquette vs Memphis
St. Johns vs Tulsa
Depaul vs Tulane/USF/ECU

How would this be a one-sided challenge? I honestly think that we would win the challenge. I tried to match the teams up to create as equal of games as possible based on how I think the teams will do next year. I also took into account how match-ups sounded, so don't get all upset if you think your team will finish better than they are listed. Obviously we don't know who will finish where, and several of the teams (WSU and Cincy) seem pretty exchangeable at this point, but you get the idea (also I think Xavier will finish ahead of Creighton but that would match them up with Cincy and they already play so I moved it around a bit). Looking at these games I don't know how anyone could think that we would get destroyed. I honestly would be slightly surprised if we didn't AT LEAST split 5-5.
UCF was supposed to play butler at home this year but butler backed out and instead scheduled St. Louis.

I agree with you, I think AAC would win this matchup quite handily.

I think we got the better end of the deal, signing Alabama and Mizzou to home and homes instead, starting next season.

The advantage of the P5 bias, even if those teams are bad, they'll still be good via RPI. Same can't be said of Butler.
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RE: Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
(06-01-2017 02:18 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  
(06-01-2017 02:03 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  
(06-01-2017 01:44 PM)shocks21 Wrote:  Big East vs The American:

Villanova vs Wichita State
Creighton vs Cincinnati
Xavier vs SMU
Butler vs UCF
Providence vs UCONN
Seton Hall vs Temple
Georgetown vs Houston
Marquette vs Memphis
St. Johns vs Tulsa
Depaul vs Tulane/USF/ECU

How would this be a one-sided challenge? I honestly think that we would win the challenge. I tried to match the teams up to create as equal of games as possible based on how I think the teams will do next year. I also took into account how match-ups sounded, so don't get all upset if you think your team will finish better than they are listed. Obviously we don't know who will finish where, and several of the teams (WSU and Cincy) seem pretty exchangeable at this point, but you get the idea (also I think Xavier will finish ahead of Creighton but that would match them up with Cincy and they already play so I moved it around a bit). Looking at these games I don't know how anyone could think that we would get destroyed. I honestly would be slightly surprised if we didn't AT LEAST split 5-5.
UCF was supposed to play butler at home this year but butler backed out and instead scheduled St. Louis.

I agree with you, I think AAC would win this matchup quite handily.

I think we got the better end of the deal, signing Alabama and Mizzou to home and homes instead, starting next season.

The advantage of the P5 bias, even if those teams are bad, they'll still be good via RPI. Same can't be said of Butler.

True. I expect both mizzou and alabama to be better than butler in 2017.
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RE: Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
(06-01-2017 01:44 PM)shocks21 Wrote:  Big East vs The American:

Villanova vs Wichita State
Creighton vs Cincinnati
Xavier vs SMU
Butler vs UCF
Providence vs UCONN
Seton Hall vs Temple
Georgetown vs Houston
Marquette vs Memphis
St. Johns vs Tulsa
Depaul vs Tulane/USF/ECU

How would this be a one-sided challenge? I honestly think that we would win the challenge. I tried to match the teams up to create as equal of games as possible based on how I think the teams will do next year. I also took into account how match-ups sounded, so don't get all upset if you think your team will finish better than they are listed. Obviously we don't know who will finish where, and several of the teams (WSU and Cincy) seem pretty exchangeable at this point, but you get the idea (also I think Xavier will finish ahead of Creighton but that would match them up with Cincy and they already play so I moved it around a bit). Looking at these games I don't know how anyone could think that we would get destroyed. I honestly would be slightly surprised if we didn't AT LEAST split 5-5.

I think you've got Seton Hall low... I would put them in the top 3, certainly no lower than 4th. I think we could win 2 of the top 3 games, but after that it would go downhill. It would be fairly even though... I don't see either conference winning by more than a 6-4 margin.
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RE: Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
(06-01-2017 02:43 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  
(06-01-2017 01:44 PM)shocks21 Wrote:  Big East vs The American:

Villanova vs Wichita State
Creighton vs Cincinnati
Xavier vs SMU
Butler vs UCF
Providence vs UCONN
Seton Hall vs Temple
Georgetown vs Houston
Marquette vs Memphis
St. Johns vs Tulsa
Depaul vs Tulane/USF/ECU

How would this be a one-sided challenge? I honestly think that we would win the challenge. I tried to match the teams up to create as equal of games as possible based on how I think the teams will do next year. I also took into account how match-ups sounded, so don't get all upset if you think your team will finish better than they are listed. Obviously we don't know who will finish where, and several of the teams (WSU and Cincy) seem pretty exchangeable at this point, but you get the idea (also I think Xavier will finish ahead of Creighton but that would match them up with Cincy and they already play so I moved it around a bit). Looking at these games I don't know how anyone could think that we would get destroyed. I honestly would be slightly surprised if we didn't AT LEAST split 5-5.

I think you've got Seton Hall low... I would put them in the top 3, certainly no lower than 4th. I think we could win 2 of the top 3 games, but after that it would go downhill. It would be fairly even though... I don't see either conference winning by more than a 6-4 margin.

I kind of see it the other way. I could see Houston and Tulsa both winning without an issue. Memphis probably goes down and the Temple game would be a toss up in my opinion. I agree it wouldn't likely be more than a 6-4 margin either way though. Good chance for an even split to be honest. Really would be cool to see something setup.
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RE: Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
(06-01-2017 01:44 PM)shocks21 Wrote:  Big East vs The American:

Villanova vs Wichita State
Creighton vs Cincinnati
Xavier vs SMU
Butler vs UCF
Providence vs UCONN
Seton Hall vs Temple
Georgetown vs Houston
Marquette vs Memphis
St. Johns vs Tulsa
Depaul vs Tulane/USF/ECU

How would this be a one-sided challenge? I honestly think that we would win the challenge. I tried to match the teams up to create as equal of games as possible based on how I think the teams will do next year. I also took into account how match-ups sounded, so don't get all upset if you think your team will finish better than they are listed. Obviously we don't know who will finish where, and several of the teams (WSU and Cincy) seem pretty exchangeable at this point, but you get the idea (also I think Xavier will finish ahead of Creighton but that would match them up with Cincy and they already play so I moved it around a bit). Looking at these games I don't know how anyone could think that we would get destroyed. I honestly would be slightly surprised if we didn't AT LEAST split 5-5.

I'd love to see WSU play Nova .. But you would REALLY be missing an opportunity by not matching WSU/Creighton up.
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RE: Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
(06-01-2017 02:43 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  
(06-01-2017 01:44 PM)shocks21 Wrote:  Big East vs The American:

Villanova vs Wichita State
Creighton vs Cincinnati
Xavier vs SMU
Butler vs UCF
Providence vs UCONN
Seton Hall vs Temple
Georgetown vs Houston
Marquette vs Memphis
St. Johns vs Tulsa
Depaul vs Tulane/USF/ECU

How would this be a one-sided challenge? I honestly think that we would win the challenge. I tried to match the teams up to create as equal of games as possible based on how I think the teams will do next year. I also took into account how match-ups sounded, so don't get all upset if you think your team will finish better than they are listed. Obviously we don't know who will finish where, and several of the teams (WSU and Cincy) seem pretty exchangeable at this point, but you get the idea (also I think Xavier will finish ahead of Creighton but that would match them up with Cincy and they already play so I moved it around a bit). Looking at these games I don't know how anyone could think that we would get destroyed. I honestly would be slightly surprised if we didn't AT LEAST split 5-5.

I think you've got Seton Hall low... I would put them in the top 3, certainly no lower than 4th. I think we could win 2 of the top 3 games, but after that it would go downhill. It would be fairly even though... I don't see either conference winning by more than a 6-4 margin.

I very well may have them too low and Butler too high, I thought that Angel Delgado left Seton Hall for the NBA but I just saw that he stayed. That changes a lot for them. Regardless though, I think we win the challenge or break even. After thinking about it some more I wouldn't be shocked if we lost the challenge 4-6 but I would find anything more than that surprising. Just my two cents. I do think that we call all agree that this would be an exciting slate of games.
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RE: Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
(06-01-2017 01:44 PM)shocks21 Wrote:  Big East vs The American:

Villanova vs Wichita State
Creighton vs Cincinnati
Xavier vs SMU
Butler vs UCF
Providence vs UCONN
Seton Hall vs Temple
Georgetown vs Houston
Marquette vs Memphis
St. Johns vs Tulsa
Depaul vs Tulane/USF/ECU

(Leaning over to basketball recognizing friend) What the funk is DePaul?........and can we actually beat them?

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(Leaning over to basketball recognizing friend) What the funk is DePaul?........and can we actually beat them?

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Depaul > ECU next year with Lebo coaching

Depaul < ECU next year with assistant coaching
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RE: Rothstein | It's time for an A10, American early season challenge
(06-01-2017 03:00 PM)shocks21 Wrote:  
(06-01-2017 02:43 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  
(06-01-2017 01:44 PM)shocks21 Wrote:  Big East vs The American:

Villanova vs Wichita State
Creighton vs Cincinnati
Xavier vs SMU
Butler vs UCF
Providence vs UCONN
Seton Hall vs Temple
Georgetown vs Houston
Marquette vs Memphis
St. Johns vs Tulsa
Depaul vs Tulane/USF/ECU

How would this be a one-sided challenge? I honestly think that we would win the challenge. I tried to match the teams up to create as equal of games as possible based on how I think the teams will do next year. I also took into account how match-ups sounded, so don't get all upset if you think your team will finish better than they are listed. Obviously we don't know who will finish where, and several of the teams (WSU and Cincy) seem pretty exchangeable at this point, but you get the idea (also I think Xavier will finish ahead of Creighton but that would match them up with Cincy and they already play so I moved it around a bit). Looking at these games I don't know how anyone could think that we would get destroyed. I honestly would be slightly surprised if we didn't AT LEAST split 5-5.

I think you've got Seton Hall low... I would put them in the top 3, certainly no lower than 4th. I think we could win 2 of the top 3 games, but after that it would go downhill. It would be fairly even though... I don't see either conference winning by more than a 6-4 margin.

I very well may have them too low and Butler too high, I thought that Angel Delgado left Seton Hall for the NBA but I just saw that he stayed. That changes a lot for them. Regardless though, I think we win the challenge or break even. After thinking about it some more I wouldn't be shocked if we lost the challenge 4-6 but I would find anything more than that surprising. Just my two cents. I do think that we call all agree that this would be an exciting slate of games.

A Big East challenge would be awesome, but it's not going to happen as long as they have the Big Ten challenge. More than a conference challenge, we need scheduling mandates. Teams that fail to schedule quality OOC opponents should forfeit some or all of their tournament credits.
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(Leaning over to basketball recognizing friend) What the funk is DePaul?........and can we actually beat them?

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Depaul > ECU next year with Lebo coaching

Depaul < ECU next year with assistant coaching
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......................I'll take it!
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It's not a bad idea. The AAC is by far the better conference right now and that's not a bad thing. At least it would make the schedule a little more interesting and frankly the schools in our conference, by and large, could use a little more exposure in the NE/mid-atlantic areas. So I'm a little bit for it.
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(06-01-2017 03:23 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(06-01-2017 03:20 PM)shocks21 Wrote:  

(Leaning over to basketball recognizing friend) What the funk is DePaul?........and can we actually beat them?

Depaul > ECU next year with Lebo coaching

Depaul < ECU next year with assistant coaching
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......................I'll take it!
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ECU used to play Depaul in the old C-USA 1.0 days.
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