LOL, change title thread. USF not under investigation.

NO, repeat, NO academic fraud.

This is about as small of an infraction as you can get.

A former assistant coach provided less than 511 dollars of impermissible benefits to 2 recruits and lied about it.

That's it. That really is it. Nothing else. USF is not or will be further "under investigation".

LOL.

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Nutshell from NCAA findings on @USFMBB: Orlando Antigua exonerated in all this. #USF cooperated fully. NO "academic fraud" on #USF's part.

Bottom line is former assistant coach Oliver let 2 dudes stay at his house overnight then lied about it. That's it. That's the extent of this. This is really small potatoes.

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bulls/ncaa...ll/2325115

Former USF men's basketball assistant Oliver Antigua provided impermissible benefits, including lodging at his own home, for two prospective student-athletes while they received on-campus tutoring, according to findings reported to the school by the NCAA.

The NCAA's Summary Disposition Report was released Thursday morning to the Tampa Bay Times following a public-records request.

It indicates Antigua, who resigned last July, provided the benefits (not totaling more than $511) while the recruits were being tutored at USF's College of Medicine by the sister-in-law of Gerald Gillion, then special assistant to former coach Orlando Antigua.

Seems like a non-story to me.

technical the investigation isnt over as the ncaa hasnt handed down a punishment yet

and $500 is a lite offense?? have you not been following the ncaa

you realize smu's probabtion and major scandal was because a player without the knowledge of the staff got a student trainer to do some school work for him. and that larry brown lied that he never met the students after the infraction were known (and then told the truth 5 minutes later) the official ncaa report literally said the staff had nothing to do with cheating but slammed them with lack of institutional control and a post season ban....

until the official punishment is known you wont know how big it is...

(05-25-2017 03:49 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  And here I thought the NCAA had plenty of work from Penn State, North Carolina and Baylor to keep them busy for a decade... or two... or three... or four... or five... SMH

Don't forget Smoo

(05-25-2017 05:38 PM)pesik Wrote:  technical the investigation isnt over as the ncaa hasnt handed down a punishment yet

and $500 is a lite offense?? have you not been following the ncaa

you realize smu's probabtion and major scandal was because a player without the knowledge of the staff got a student trainer to do some school work for him. and that larry brown lied that he never met the students after the infraction were know (and then told the truth 5 minutes later) the official ncaa report literally said the staff had nothing to do with cheating but slammed them with lack of institutional control and a post season ban....

until the official punishment is known you wont know how big it is...

OK, but this is even smaller than that. A former coach let 2 dudes stay at his house overnight. Nothing with academics happened. Nothing.

USF already self imposed some small penalties, and hopefully the NCAA will go with those, at least they should.

(05-25-2017 04:04 PM)bullsbucsfan426 Wrote:  I Knew I should have posted something first so you idiots couldn't have made it look like this was something new.

Was USF basketball being investigated? Yes. This was reported last year.

What were the charges? Potential academic fraud, impermissible benefits.

Did they stick? NO. There was no academic fraud. The impermissible benefits were valued at less than $511 and are projected for a grade II infraction.

This isn't like UCF paying off players to try to get them to come to Orlando, denying water to players, or any plethora of their recruiting violations.

Worst case scenario we get hit with a lower tier Grade 1 penalty and just the 1 scholarship reduction.

Oh like this. Is it something like having a football player cheat by having someone else take his classes for him or a coach smacking a player?

(05-25-2017 05:38 PM)pesik Wrote:  technical the investigation isnt over as the ncaa hasnt handed down a punishment yet

and $500 is a lite offense?? have you not been following the ncaa

you realize smu's probabtion and major scandal was because a player without the knowledge of the staff got a student trainer to do some school work for him. and that larry brown lied that he never met the students after the infraction were known (and then told the truth 5 minutes later) the official ncaa report literally said the staff had nothing to do with cheating but slammed them with lack of institutional control and a post season ban....

until the official punishment is known you wont know how big it is...

But when usf breaks the rules it's just not a big deal bc basically they almost didn't even do anything wrong.

(05-25-2017 05:54 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 05:38 PM)pesik Wrote:  technical the investigation isnt over as the ncaa hasnt handed down a punishment yet

and $500 is a lite offense?? have you not been following the ncaa

you realize smu's probabtion and major scandal was because a player without the knowledge of the staff got a student trainer to do some school work for him. and that larry brown lied that he never met the students after the infraction were known (and then told the truth 5 minutes later) the official ncaa report literally said the staff had nothing to do with cheating but slammed them with lack of institutional control and a post season ban....

until the official punishment is known you wont know how big it is...

But when usf breaks the rules it's just not a big deal bc basically they almost didn't even do anything wrong.

USF broke the rules or one renegade asst. coach let 2 recruits stay in his house overnight.

Wow stop the presses. Major infractions going on at USF!!!

(05-25-2017 05:47 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 05:38 PM)pesik Wrote:  technical the investigation isnt over as the ncaa hasnt handed down a punishment yet

and $500 is a lite offense?? have you not been following the ncaa

you realize smu's probabtion and major scandal was because a player without the knowledge of the staff got a student trainer to do some school work for him. and that larry brown lied that he never met the students after the infraction were know (and then told the truth 5 minutes later) the official ncaa report literally said the staff had nothing to do with cheating but slammed them with lack of institutional control and a post season ban....

until the official punishment is known you wont know how big it is...

OK, but this is even smaller than that. A former coach let 2 dudes stay at his house overnight. Nothing with academics happened. Nothing.

USF already self imposed some small penalties, and hopefully the NCAA will go with those, at least they should.

now now don't you come on this thread and bring more facts about the actions USF took as soon as they found out about it.
For anyone interested in knowing those facts I posted a link in an earlier post.
If not continue to enjoy your circle just make sure to wash your hands when finished.

USF trying to be the Miami of old in the AAC

They need to cheat better. Call Louisville or UNC for advice.

(05-25-2017 06:59 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  USF trying to be the Miami of old in the AAC

Thanks for the love Dana Kirk...

(05-25-2017 06:59 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  USF trying to be the Miami of old in the AAC

Says the fan of the school with not one, BUT TWO FREAKING FINAL FOURS VACATED!

(05-25-2017 07:09 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  They need to cheat better. Call Louisville or UNC for advice.

They probably did cheat better which is why all they found was the level II violation. I guess the level I is still pending and possible though. Per the article with the "facts" that was posted. Where there's smoke, there's fire. They probably just put theirs out and covered it up quick enough.

(05-25-2017 07:58 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 07:09 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  They need to cheat better. Call Louisville or UNC for advice.

They probably did cheat better which is why all they found was the level II violation. I guess the level I is still pending and possible though. Per the article with the "facts" that was posted. Where there's smoke, there's fire. They probably just put theirs out and covered it up quick enough.

Or maybe it was just one guy, who got appropriately penalized and then fired. Keep hoping that you can call us cheaters, but there's not even nothing for you to do here. If you really want to go fishing, there are some great places in Bulls Country, we'll let you pick Sarasota or St. Pete to suit your needs.

(05-25-2017 07:58 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 07:09 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  They need to cheat better. Call Louisville or UNC for advice.

They probably did cheat better which is why all they found was the level II violation. I guess the level I is still pending and possible though. Per the article with the "facts" that was posted. Where there's smoke, there's fire. They probably just put theirs out and covered it up quick enough.

At least no one got killed...

(05-25-2017 09:47 PM)NewEnglandBull Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 07:58 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 07:09 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  They need to cheat better. Call Louisville or UNC for advice.

They probably did cheat better which is why all they found was the level II violation. I guess the level I is still pending and possible though. Per the article with the "facts" that was posted. Where there's smoke, there's fire. They probably just put theirs out and covered it up quick enough.

At least no one got killed...

UCF didn't kill anybody

(05-25-2017 09:50 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 09:47 PM)NewEnglandBull Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 07:58 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 07:09 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  They need to cheat better. Call Louisville or UNC for advice.

They probably did cheat better which is why all they found was the level II violation. I guess the level I is still pending and possible though. Per the article with the "facts" that was posted. Where there's smoke, there's fire. They probably just put theirs out and covered it up quick enough.

At least no one got killed...

UCF didn't kill anybody

You'll have to write in crayons for him to understand.

(05-25-2017 07:09 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  They need to cheat better. Call Louisville or UNC for advice.

USF sucks when it comes to cheating. Small potatoes.
Here in the land of the Tarholes, cheating works on a factory scale. UNC responded to the NCAA Second Amended Notice of Allegations today:

1. The courses in issue (the “Courses”) were available to all students in the same manner. No special arrangements were made for student-athletes in violation of NCAA extra-benefit legislation.
Translation: If we let everybody cheat, the NCAA can't say we gave athletes extra benefits.

2. Student-athletes were not treated differently than other students who took the Courses. All students who took the Courses were required to write one or more research papers.
Translation: We let anybody turn in a plagiarized or sub-elementary school one paragraph term paper. We even made people available to write one for them. What's the big deal.

3. The Courses originated in the Department and not the Department of Athletics.
Translation: If you want to cheat, let the academicians do it for you.

4. That no one in the Department of Athletics took improper advantage of the Courses. There is no allegation that any coach or employee of the Department of Athletics violated a bylaw or directed a student-athlete to take one of these courses.
Translation: No coach in any sport across parts of three decades had any idea that thousands of students were taking fake classes.

5. That the issues before this Panel were academic in nature and the result of inadequate academic oversight unrelated to the Department of Athletics.
Translation: Whatever. The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools Committee on Colleges (“SACSCOC”), the University’s academic accreditor, has already let UNC off with a slap on the wrist. So who is the NCAA to tell them what kind of classes to run.

This is how you put over 1500 athletes through fake classes and get off scot-free. USF needs to take some lessons.