Tiger65
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RE: Tubby on one and done
(05-29-2017 07:12 PM)Stammers Wrote: (05-29-2017 05:26 PM)TG4 Wrote: (05-29-2017 05:11 PM)Stammers Wrote: I don't like posting negative stuff but you can't go 2 minutes without having a reason to be negative. Tubby barely talks to the media but when he does, he says things that are ridiculous. The worst thing isn't that the crazy stuff that he says is because of an error in judgment, being misquoted or being caught in a moment of weakness. The worst is that he believes what he is thinking.
It's all a ruse. Tubby is dumb like a fox.
I Trust Tubby.
He managed to trick Rudd and Bowen, I'll give him that.
And they probably have met Tubby and actually sat down with Tubby. I would say Tubby is a great trickster and basketball coach. If he can pull it off against an AD and also the CEO Tiger, then rank him there with P. T. Barnum.
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Tiger1983
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RE: Tubby on one and done
Tubby is a smart and clever man, no doubt. Seldom has one person gotten so much money for achieving so little (e.g. one NCAA win in the past ten years).
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BinghamptonNed
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RE: Tubby on one and done
(05-29-2017 09:08 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: Tubby is a smart and clever man, no doubt. Seldom has one person gotten so much money for achieving so little (e.g. one NCAA win in the past ten years).
how ironic that wonder boys biggest lapdog makes this statement.
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Stammers
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RE: Tubby on one and done
(05-31-2017 02:43 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote: (05-29-2017 09:08 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: Tubby is a smart and clever man, no doubt. Seldom has one person gotten so much money for achieving so little (e.g. one NCAA win in the past ten years).
how ironic that wonder boys biggest lapdog makes this statement.
Let's take a quick look at how Tubby and Pastner got paid.
PASTNER
2010
NIT, RPI of 56
2011
NCAA Tournament
2012
NCAA Tournament
2013 - Signs contract March 2013 at age 35
NCAA tournament, NCAA tournament win, finished season ranked #18 in the country, returning 5 of 7 top scorers, bringing in #3 class in the nation, ranked #13 in the country preseason, had bonafide offers for more money from both UCLA and USC.
TUBBY
2012
NIT runner up
2013
NCAA tournament, NCAA tournament win, FIRED
2014
14-18
2015
13-19
2016 - Signs contract at Memphis, March 2016 at age 64
NCAA tournament
FUN FACT
A year after Pastner got the big contract at Memphis, Tubby signed for $1.6 million per year with a raise of $100,000 per year through 2019 at Texas Tech. If life was fair, Tubby would still be at Texas Tech, rotting away for $1.9 million per year.
(This post was last modified: 05-31-2017 04:00 PM by Stammers.)
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Tiger1983
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RE: Tubby on one and done
(05-31-2017 02:43 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote: (05-29-2017 09:08 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: Tubby is a smart and clever man, no doubt. Seldom has one person gotten so much money for achieving so little (e.g. one NCAA win in the past ten years).
how ironic that wonder boys biggest lapdog makes this statement.
Your ad hominem attack aside, I am glad Opie is gone (although I wish him no ill will). I do not partake in the Pastner obsession by some folks. I am focused on the present and the future and neither looks good.
(This post was last modified: 05-31-2017 04:44 PM by Tiger1983.)
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FlyingTiger2016
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RE: Tubby on one and done
Tubby was on the radio this morning. He said if you are talented like Lebron James(and others), you should be able to go pro out of high school. He never supported the one and done rule.
He did mention he would like the baseball draft rules, with a three year commitment if you don't go pro out of high school.
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gusrob
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RE: Tubby on one and done
"One-and-Done Rule" started in 2005. Adapt and overcome. At this point, you missed the boat.
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gusrob
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RE: Tubby on one and done
(05-25-2017 08:30 AM)holyterror Wrote: (05-25-2017 08:22 AM)Tiger65 Wrote: University of Memphis head coach Tubby Smith was also in the field for Anderson's tournament. Smith said something needs to be done about the impact the NBA's one-and-done rule is having on college basketball. Smith added that anytime a coach can convince players with a pro future to stay in school an extra year it's a win-win situation for the coaches and fans, telling reporters, "It's huge anytime you get kids back where they have that type of talent it's going to make a difference in your program. So I know he's excited to have those guys back."
Ideally, that extra year would be spent preparing-business/accounting classes, even foreign languages (insert player name here). But I don't mind so much a kid bolting for the money, UNLESS he's getting bad info from his parents and/or posse.
Unless they got a real degree.
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06-06-2017 12:18 PM |
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Tiger1983
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RE: Tubby on one and done
(06-06-2017 11:55 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote: Tubby was on the radio this morning. He said if you are talented like Lebron James(and others), you should be able to go pro out of high school. He never supported the one and done rule.
He did mention he would like the baseball draft rules, with a three year commitment if you don't go pro out of high school.
It is a moot subject for Tubby.
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06-06-2017 12:22 PM |
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gusrob
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RE: Tubby on one and done
(05-25-2017 11:18 AM)FUT Wrote: (05-25-2017 09:39 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: Does Tubby, who moved and stuffed his coffers, wish to deny players (many of whom are poor) the same opportunity to make money?
It really is insane that any D1 coach in any sport would want kids to not go make money so "coaches and fans can have a win win situation" while being too stupid to realize he is asking the kid to enter into a lose lose situation. That is not only directed at Tubby but any coach that feels this way.
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06-06-2017 12:24 PM |
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FlyingTiger2016
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RE: Tubby on one and done
(06-06-2017 12:22 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: (06-06-2017 11:55 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote: Tubby was on the radio this morning. He said if you are talented like Lebron James(and others), you should be able to go pro out of high school. He never supported the one and done rule.
He did mention he would like the baseball draft rules, with a three year commitment if you don't go pro out of high school.
It is a moot subject for Tubby.
(05-25-2017 09:39 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: Does Tubby, who moved and stuffed his coffers, wish to deny players (many of whom are poor) the same opportunity to make money?
It still contradicts your assessment of his position on the subject. So I feel it's rather relevant.
This is literally a thread that took a small statement out of context to mean Tubby had outdated opinions on if talented players should go to the NBA or not.
This is just another example of ridiculous FUD I see on this board.
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06-06-2017 12:33 PM |
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Tiger1983
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RE: Tubby on one and done
(06-06-2017 12:33 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote: (06-06-2017 12:22 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: (06-06-2017 11:55 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote: Tubby was on the radio this morning. He said if you are talented like Lebron James(and others), you should be able to go pro out of high school. He never supported the one and done rule.
He did mention he would like the baseball draft rules, with a three year commitment if you don't go pro out of high school.
It is a moot subject for Tubby.
(05-25-2017 09:39 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: Does Tubby, who moved and stuffed his coffers, wish to deny players (many of whom are poor) the same opportunity to make money?
It still contradicts your assessment of his position on the subject. So I feel it's rather relevant.
This is literally a thread that took a small statement out of context to mean Tubby had outdated opinions on if talented players should go to the NBA or not.
This is just another example of ridiculous FUD I see on this board.
There is no contradiction between my posts: 1. The answer to my question (I guess) is no. 2. My second post states that Tubby's opinion about "one and done" is moot ("of little or no practical value, meaning, or relevance; purely academic") because he is either unwilling or unable to obtain elite, NBA caliber players.
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RE: Tubby on one and done
(06-06-2017 12:42 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: (06-06-2017 12:33 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote: (06-06-2017 12:22 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: (06-06-2017 11:55 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote: Tubby was on the radio this morning. He said if you are talented like Lebron James(and others), you should be able to go pro out of high school. He never supported the one and done rule.
He did mention he would like the baseball draft rules, with a three year commitment if you don't go pro out of high school.
It is a moot subject for Tubby.
(05-25-2017 09:39 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: Does Tubby, who moved and stuffed his coffers, wish to deny players (many of whom are poor) the same opportunity to make money?
It still contradicts your assessment of his position on the subject. So I feel it's rather relevant.
This is literally a thread that took a small statement out of context to mean Tubby had outdated opinions on if talented players should go to the NBA or not.
This is just another example of ridiculous FUD I see on this board.
There is no contradiction between my posts: 1. The answer to my question (I guess) is no. 2. My second post states that Tubby's opinion about "one and done" is moot ("of little or no practical value, meaning, or relevance; purely academic") because he is either unwilling or unable to obtain elite, NBA caliber players.
My father always told me that if you were smart you wouldn't have to tell anyone. They'd know.
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06-06-2017 01:40 PM |
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Tiger1983
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RE: Tubby on one and done
(06-06-2017 01:40 PM)Tiger57 Wrote: (06-06-2017 12:42 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: (06-06-2017 12:33 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote: (06-06-2017 12:22 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: (06-06-2017 11:55 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote: Tubby was on the radio this morning. He said if you are talented like Lebron James(and others), you should be able to go pro out of high school. He never supported the one and done rule.
He did mention he would like the baseball draft rules, with a three year commitment if you don't go pro out of high school.
It is a moot subject for Tubby.
(05-25-2017 09:39 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: Does Tubby, who moved and stuffed his coffers, wish to deny players (many of whom are poor) the same opportunity to make money?
It still contradicts your assessment of his position on the subject. So I feel it's rather relevant.
This is literally a thread that took a small statement out of context to mean Tubby had outdated opinions on if talented players should go to the NBA or not.
This is just another example of ridiculous FUD I see on this board.
There is no contradiction between my posts: 1. The answer to my question (I guess) is no. 2. My second post states that Tubby's opinion about "one and done" is moot ("of little or no practical value, meaning, or relevance; purely academic") because he is either unwilling or unable to obtain elite, NBA caliber players.
My father always told me that if you were smart you wouldn't have to tell anyone. They'd know.
True, I am a graduate of Memphis State. No other testimony is required. Agree?
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