(05-26-2017 11:03 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  For the life of me I cannot think of one good reason to want to open carry.

There are a fair number of reasons. For one, Second Amendment activists get slandered all the time so we should fight back whenever possible because “a right un-used is a right easily abridged.” So if it's legal to open carry, then the people that cannot think of one good reason to open carry are irrelevant.

So open carry can help people see that shooters were like them, not like their stereotypes.

Though there is the practice of ” legal vs. good idea”. This is where the walking into a store with your modern sporting rifle may be legal, but, is it a good idea? Eh........ rarely.

For the record, I never open carry (out of respect for not being clobbered in the back of the head with a roll of nickles in a sock) and that today the vast majority of open carry advocates are doing it wrong.

If a perpetrator doesn't know if someone is carrying perhaps that would thwart the perp from trying something stupid that might cost him his life. Not knowing who carries is the best way.

Like that video where a robber goes into a restaurant and tries to rob it and the people eating there seem normal until they all point their guns at the perp and then a sign is shown that indicates that the town is hosting a lawmen's convention. It's the same way.

(05-25-2017 08:57 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 08:40 AM)fsquid Wrote:  Nothing wrong with his post.

The fact that he doesn't use logic. How does arming the public stop a bomb? Guy was native. How does open borders apply here? Not being politically correct will magically kill our enemies? Guess you support closing the border and letting no one leave or enter? Does that save us from the millions of murderers already living here? Wish I could live in this perfect fantasy world where nothing happens.

you really need to go back to your single sentence witticism's. Using all those words? "Better to be thought a fool than opening your mouth and proving it"

(05-26-2017 02:02 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(05-26-2017 11:03 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  For the life of me I cannot think of one good reason to want to open carry.

There are a fair number of reasons. For one, Second Amendment activists get slandered all the time so we should fight back whenever possible because “a right un-used is a right easily abridged.” So if it's legal to open carry, then the people that cannot think of one good reason to open carry are irrelevant.

So open carry can help people see that shooters were like them, not like their stereotypes.

Though there is the practice of ” legal vs. good idea”. This is where the walking into a store with your modern sporting rifle may be legal, but, is it a good idea? Eh........ rarely.

For the record, I never open carry (out of respect for not being clobbered in the back of the head with a roll of nickles in a sock) and that today the vast majority of open carry advocates are doing it wrong.

I'm sorry sir but if you open carry for your security, you are not like me. I don't feel the need to open carry and I don't want to be around anyone that does.

If I see someone open carrying that to me tells me they have something to fear and I don't want to be around someone who is fearful if the **** hits the fan.

Conceal carry? No problem. Open carry? I'm going to the next establishment down the street.

(05-26-2017 09:27 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 05:24 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  I'd rather have a slim chance than no chance at all.

That sounds good on paper, but you're not counting the possibility that someone else's good intentions actually decrease your chances.

I imagine the only people worried about the slight chance of getting wounded or killed by friendly fire is overwhelmingly surpassed by the people who would prefer to almost certainty of dying from an uninterrupted terrorist attack.

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(05-25-2017 05:24 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Chances are pretty much 50/50 that the average CCW holder is going to have more range time than the military/law enforcement and will be more proficient with the weapon.

I hope you can trust me when I say that I'm not dismissing that it takes effort, time, and skill to build marksmanship.

However, just because a permit holder can earn a higher score at the shooting range does not mean he has the other experiences of the military/law officer.

Shooting a moving target is different, shooting an actual person is different, and then there's the simple fact of being in the heat of the moment. It's all different.

And unless you've been in the situation before, you cannot predict how you'll react.

The vast majority of law enforcement and/or military have never been in the situation before either. My Father spent four years active duty military and another ten in the SC National Guard and never fired a shot at another human being. My former Police Chief retired after 35 years in law enforcement without ever firing a shot.

The big difference is that there stands a far better chance that the CCW holder has actually fired their weapon more than the absolute minimum required times to maintain certification unlike the military and/or law enforcement.

(05-26-2017 03:12 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-26-2017 02:02 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(05-26-2017 11:03 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  For the life of me I cannot think of one good reason to want to open carry.

There are a fair number of reasons. For one, Second Amendment activists get slandered all the time so we should fight back whenever possible because “a right un-used is a right easily abridged.” So if it's legal to open carry, then the people that cannot think of one good reason to open carry are irrelevant.

So open carry can help people see that shooters were like them, not like their stereotypes.

Though there is the practice of ” legal vs. good idea”. This is where the walking into a store with your modern sporting rifle may be legal, but, is it a good idea? Eh........ rarely.

For the record, I never open carry (out of respect for not being clobbered in the back of the head with a roll of nickles in a sock) and that today the vast majority of open carry advocates are doing it wrong.

I'm sorry sir but if you open carry for your security, you are not like me. I don't feel the need to open carry and I don't want to be around anyone that does.

If I see someone open carrying that to me tells me they have something to fear and I don't want to be around someone who is fearful if the **** hits the fan.

Conceal carry? No problem. Open carry? I'm going to the next establishment down the street.

That's fine you feel that way, but your feelings do not trump my rights. If you feel that they do then I will have to ask that in the future you refrain from voting because the idea of you casting a ballot scares me.