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Sunbelt Commissioner Karl Benson Comments On "P6" Strategy
I posted this as part of another thread, but it was suggested that it should have its own thread. So, here is what Sunbelt commissioner Karl Benson had to say regarding Aresco's "P6 campaign". The comments are part of Benson's answer to his final question of the interview regarding a G5 playoff. The last question begins at about the 16:30 mark of the following interview (linked below). lol...pretty sure he trying to find a moderately polite way to say he does't like it....at all



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(05-22-2017 11:13 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  I posted this as part of another thread, but it was suggested that it should have its own thread. So, here is what Sunbelt commissioner Karl Benson had to say regarding Aresco's "P6 campaign". The comments are part of Benson's answer to his final question of the interview regarding a G5 playoff. The last question begins at about the 16:30 mark of the following interview (linked below). lol...pretty sure he trying to find a moderately polite way to say he does't like it....at all



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Good. FCS has a playoff, so anyone wanting to play in one knows where they can go
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(05-22-2017 12:20 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  http://csnbbs.com/thread-818334.html

lol....No P6 or tweener board? Delany and Swofford must be behind this! 04-jawdrop
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(05-22-2017 11:13 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  I posted this as part of another thread, but it was suggested that it should have its own thread. So, here is what Sunbelt commissioner Karl Benson had to say regarding Aresco's "P6 campaign". The comments are part of Benson's answer to his final question of the interview regarding a G5 playoff. The last question begins at about the 16:30 mark of the following interview (linked below). lol...pretty sure he trying to find a moderately polite way to say he does't like it....at all



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Benson got stuck there. It was a question he clearly didn't want to answer, and he was doing an interview for a program whose listener base is the loudest group of the "Fire Karl Benson" crowd in the Sun Belt.

If he tries to make the idea sound stupid, he hurts any relationship he has with Arresco, and if he says anything other than making the idea sound stupid, he ticks off a very vocal group of detractors even more.
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(05-22-2017 01:10 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-22-2017 11:13 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  I posted this as part of another thread, but it was suggested that it should have its own thread. So, here is what Sunbelt commissioner Karl Benson had to say regarding Aresco's "P6 campaign". The comments are part of Benson's answer to his final question of the interview regarding a G5 playoff. The last question begins at about the 16:30 mark of the following interview (linked below). lol...pretty sure he trying to find a moderately polite way to say he does't like it....at all



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Benson got stuck there. It was a question he clearly didn't want to answer, and he was doing an interview for a program whose listener base is the loudest group of the "Fire Karl Benson" crowd in the Sun Belt.

If he tries to make the idea sound stupid, he hurts any relationship he has with Arresco, and if he says anything other than making the idea sound stupid, he ticks off a very vocal group of detractors even more.

He wanted to be a little snarky for a moment, but for the most part I thought he stayed fairly diplomatic while getting the point across that he wasnt a fan. That said, I've never seen the point in the G5 sticking together. Unless they are willing to invest cash into a series of bowls for G5 champs with payouts large enough to attract high selections from P5 conferences, there is really no way to improve the current bowl situation. Gotta bring cash to the table or no bueno.
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(05-22-2017 01:10 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-22-2017 11:13 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  I posted this as part of another thread, but it was suggested that it should have its own thread. So, here is what Sunbelt commissioner Karl Benson had to say regarding Aresco's "P6 campaign". The comments are part of Benson's answer to his final question of the interview regarding a G5 playoff. The last question begins at about the 16:30 mark of the following interview (linked below). lol...pretty sure he trying to find a moderately polite way to say he does't like it....at all



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Benson got stuck there. It was a question he clearly didn't want to answer, and he was doing an interview for a program whose listener base is the loudest group of the "Fire Karl Benson" crowd in the Sun Belt.

If he tries to make the idea sound stupid, he hurts any relationship he has with Arresco, and if he says anything other than making the idea sound stupid, he ticks off a very vocal group of detractors even more.

Karl knows the AAC is the group with the most influence and power within the Group of 5. If AAC leaves that group Karl , the SunBelt and the rest of the G4 are essentially reduced to even more scraps and less validity than even now.

The Sun Belt has no chance to be a challenger conference so Karl is taking low road and saying Aresco is pushing something that does not exist. Not surprised he would chose his own self interest here.
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(05-22-2017 02:05 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  
(05-22-2017 01:10 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-22-2017 11:13 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  I posted this as part of another thread, but it was suggested that it should have its own thread. So, here is what Sunbelt commissioner Karl Benson had to say regarding Aresco's "P6 campaign". The comments are part of Benson's answer to his final question of the interview regarding a G5 playoff. The last question begins at about the 16:30 mark of the following interview (linked below). lol...pretty sure he trying to find a moderately polite way to say he does't like it....at all



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Benson got stuck there. It was a question he clearly didn't want to answer, and he was doing an interview for a program whose listener base is the loudest group of the "Fire Karl Benson" crowd in the Sun Belt.

If he tries to make the idea sound stupid, he hurts any relationship he has with Arresco, and if he says anything other than making the idea sound stupid, he ticks off a very vocal group of detractors even more.

Karl knows the AAC is the group with the most influence and power within the Group of 5. If AAC leaves that group Karl , the SunBelt and the rest of the G4 are essentially reduced to even more scraps and less validity than even now.

The Sun Belt has no chance to be a challenger conference so Karl is taking low road and saying Aresco is pushing something that does not exist. Not surprised he would chose his own self interest here.

I see what you are thinking Baruna, but I don't think you understand the real issues within the Sun Belt, nor should you.

There's really little focus on the AAC from within the Sun Belt itself. Our primary focus has always been to be considered stronger than CUSA, mostly due to bitter feelings from the last round of realignment. The only thing the AAC provides for the Sun Belt Right now is a potential bowl opponent and sources for regional home and home deals, and those aren't going away anytime soon.

The Sun Belt's issue is itself. There is a huge gap right now between the Top 5 programs in the league and the bottom 2 or 3. The top 5 are completely obsessed with improving image to the point that they are considered on level with the rest of the non power conference schools. The Bottom are doing whatever possible to stay FBS.

The top schools in the league would love nothing more than to shed themselves from the bottom of the league. I think we're a couple years away from a serious movement to consider booting ULM and the two non footballs from the conference. The only thing really stopping it right now is that CUSA hasn't fallen apart yet. If any of these things happen, or if a merge happens, Benson is out of a job. Because of this, he has so few options when it comes to quotes. He can't tick off the AAC because if he is out of a job he might find a home with Arresco, but he can't tick off his own schools either.
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(05-22-2017 03:22 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-22-2017 02:05 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  
(05-22-2017 01:10 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-22-2017 11:13 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  I posted this as part of another thread, but it was suggested that it should have its own thread. So, here is what Sunbelt commissioner Karl Benson had to say regarding Aresco's "P6 campaign". The comments are part of Benson's answer to his final question of the interview regarding a G5 playoff. The last question begins at about the 16:30 mark of the following interview (linked below). lol...pretty sure he trying to find a moderately polite way to say he does't like it....at all



https://soundcloud.com/953theticket/sun-...bcommish-1

Benson got stuck there. It was a question he clearly didn't want to answer, and he was doing an interview for a program whose listener base is the loudest group of the "Fire Karl Benson" crowd in the Sun Belt.

If he tries to make the idea sound stupid, he hurts any relationship he has with Arresco, and if he says anything other than making the idea sound stupid, he ticks off a very vocal group of detractors even more.

Karl knows the AAC is the group with the most influence and power within the Group of 5. If AAC leaves that group Karl , the SunBelt and the rest of the G4 are essentially reduced to even more scraps and less validity than even now.

The Sun Belt has no chance to be a challenger conference so Karl is taking low road and saying Aresco is pushing something that does not exist. Not surprised he would chose his own self interest here.

I see what you are thinking Baruna, but I don't think you understand the real issues within the Sun Belt, nor should you.

There's really little focus on the AAC from within the Sun Belt itself. Our primary focus has always been to be considered stronger than CUSA, mostly due to bitter feelings from the last round of realignment. The only thing the AAC provides for the Sun Belt Right now is a potential bowl opponent and sources for regional home and home deals, and those aren't going away anytime soon.

The Sun Belt's issue is itself. There is a huge gap right now between the Top 5 programs in the league and the bottom 2 or 3. The top 5 are completely obsessed with improving image to the point that they are considered on level with the rest of the non power conference schools. The Bottom are doing whatever possible to stay FBS.

The top schools in the league would love nothing more than to shed themselves from the bottom of the league. I think we're a couple years away from a serious movement to consider booting ULM and the two non footballs from the conference. The only thing really stopping it right now is that CUSA hasn't fallen apart yet. If any of these things happen, or if a merge happens, Benson is out of a job. Because of this, he has so few options when it comes to quotes. He can't tick off the AAC because if he is out of a job he might find a home with Arresco, but he can't tick off his own schools either.

To be fair, thats part of what is driving this P6 marketing. If there ever is a split, the AAC wants to improve its perception to the point that the conference might get included in any D4 super division.
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(05-22-2017 03:27 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(05-22-2017 03:22 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-22-2017 02:05 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  
(05-22-2017 01:10 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-22-2017 11:13 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  I posted this as part of another thread, but it was suggested that it should have its own thread. So, here is what Sunbelt commissioner Karl Benson had to say regarding Aresco's "P6 campaign". The comments are part of Benson's answer to his final question of the interview regarding a G5 playoff. The last question begins at about the 16:30 mark of the following interview (linked below). lol...pretty sure he trying to find a moderately polite way to say he does't like it....at all



https://soundcloud.com/953theticket/sun-...bcommish-1

Benson got stuck there. It was a question he clearly didn't want to answer, and he was doing an interview for a program whose listener base is the loudest group of the "Fire Karl Benson" crowd in the Sun Belt.

If he tries to make the idea sound stupid, he hurts any relationship he has with Arresco, and if he says anything other than making the idea sound stupid, he ticks off a very vocal group of detractors even more.

Karl knows the AAC is the group with the most influence and power within the Group of 5. If AAC leaves that group Karl , the SunBelt and the rest of the G4 are essentially reduced to even more scraps and less validity than even now.

The Sun Belt has no chance to be a challenger conference so Karl is taking low road and saying Aresco is pushing something that does not exist. Not surprised he would chose his own self interest here.

I see what you are thinking Baruna, but I don't think you understand the real issues within the Sun Belt, nor should you.

There's really little focus on the AAC from within the Sun Belt itself. Our primary focus has always been to be considered stronger than CUSA, mostly due to bitter feelings from the last round of realignment. The only thing the AAC provides for the Sun Belt Right now is a potential bowl opponent and sources for regional home and home deals, and those aren't going away anytime soon.

The Sun Belt's issue is itself. There is a huge gap right now between the Top 5 programs in the league and the bottom 2 or 3. The top 5 are completely obsessed with improving image to the point that they are considered on level with the rest of the non power conference schools. The Bottom are doing whatever possible to stay FBS.

The top schools in the league would love nothing more than to shed themselves from the bottom of the league. I think we're a couple years away from a serious movement to consider booting ULM and the two non footballs from the conference. The only thing really stopping it right now is that CUSA hasn't fallen apart yet. If any of these things happen, or if a merge happens, Benson is out of a job. Because of this, he has so few options when it comes to quotes. He can't tick off the AAC because if he is out of a job he might find a home with Arresco, but he can't tick off his own schools either.

To be fair, thats part of what is driving this P6 marketing. If there ever is a split, the AAC wants to improve its perception to the point that the conference might get included in any D4 super division.

Oh, I completely applaud the idea and concept. It's just that you guys are probably trying to wish something impossible into existence. I label it no different than Arkansas State applying to join the Big 12 a year ago. Nothing to lose, so why not try?

The difference between the AAC and the Sun Belt is that some of the bottom teams that struggle to stay afloat financially reside within the Sun Belt, and we can control whether or not they stay FBS. (Well I guess they could go Indy, but I doubt it)

You guys could all attract 70K fans to every home game, and routinely beat the Power conference schools every year and they'd probably still choose to just grab the few of you they wanted rather than taking the entire conference.
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(05-22-2017 03:42 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-22-2017 03:27 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(05-22-2017 03:22 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-22-2017 02:05 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  
(05-22-2017 01:10 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Benson got stuck there. It was a question he clearly didn't want to answer, and he was doing an interview for a program whose listener base is the loudest group of the "Fire Karl Benson" crowd in the Sun Belt.

If he tries to make the idea sound stupid, he hurts any relationship he has with Arresco, and if he says anything other than making the idea sound stupid, he ticks off a very vocal group of detractors even more.

Karl knows the AAC is the group with the most influence and power within the Group of 5. If AAC leaves that group Karl , the SunBelt and the rest of the G4 are essentially reduced to even more scraps and less validity than even now.

The Sun Belt has no chance to be a challenger conference so Karl is taking low road and saying Aresco is pushing something that does not exist. Not surprised he would chose his own self interest here.

I see what you are thinking Baruna, but I don't think you understand the real issues within the Sun Belt, nor should you.

There's really little focus on the AAC from within the Sun Belt itself. Our primary focus has always been to be considered stronger than CUSA, mostly due to bitter feelings from the last round of realignment. The only thing the AAC provides for the Sun Belt Right now is a potential bowl opponent and sources for regional home and home deals, and those aren't going away anytime soon.

The Sun Belt's issue is itself. There is a huge gap right now between the Top 5 programs in the league and the bottom 2 or 3. The top 5 are completely obsessed with improving image to the point that they are considered on level with the rest of the non power conference schools. The Bottom are doing whatever possible to stay FBS.

The top schools in the league would love nothing more than to shed themselves from the bottom of the league. I think we're a couple years away from a serious movement to consider booting ULM and the two non footballs from the conference. The only thing really stopping it right now is that CUSA hasn't fallen apart yet. If any of these things happen, or if a merge happens, Benson is out of a job. Because of this, he has so few options when it comes to quotes. He can't tick off the AAC because if he is out of a job he might find a home with Arresco, but he can't tick off his own schools either.

To be fair, thats part of what is driving this P6 marketing. If there ever is a split, the AAC wants to improve its perception to the point that the conference might get included in any D4 super division.

Oh, I completely applaud the idea and concept. It's just that you guys are probably trying to wish something impossible into existence. I label it no different than Arkansas State applying to join the Big 12 a year ago. Nothing to lose, so why not try?

The difference between the AAC and the Sun Belt is that some of the bottom teams that struggle to stay afloat financially reside within the Sun Belt, and we can control whether or not they stay FBS. (Well I guess they could go Indy, but I doubt it)

You guys could all attract 70K fans to every home game, and routinely beat the Power conference schools every year and they'd probably still choose to just grab the few of you they wanted rather than taking the entire conference.

Big difference from Arkansas State applying for Big 12 membership with zero shot. The AAC has multiple schools that have been in a power conference in the past. Cincinnati, uconn, Houston, SMU, and USF. We have two teams that have won major bowls in the last 5 years. We have a team that has won both men's and women's basketball titles. This label is about separation and getting the media used to a different perception.

I think it is working as far as perception goes.
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(05-22-2017 03:59 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(05-22-2017 03:42 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-22-2017 03:27 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(05-22-2017 03:22 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-22-2017 02:05 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  Karl knows the AAC is the group with the most influence and power within the Group of 5. If AAC leaves that group Karl , the SunBelt and the rest of the G4 are essentially reduced to even more scraps and less validity than even now.

The Sun Belt has no chance to be a challenger conference so Karl is taking low road and saying Aresco is pushing something that does not exist. Not surprised he would chose his own self interest here.

I see what you are thinking Baruna, but I don't think you understand the real issues within the Sun Belt, nor should you.

There's really little focus on the AAC from within the Sun Belt itself. Our primary focus has always been to be considered stronger than CUSA, mostly due to bitter feelings from the last round of realignment. The only thing the AAC provides for the Sun Belt Right now is a potential bowl opponent and sources for regional home and home deals, and those aren't going away anytime soon.

The Sun Belt's issue is itself. There is a huge gap right now between the Top 5 programs in the league and the bottom 2 or 3. The top 5 are completely obsessed with improving image to the point that they are considered on level with the rest of the non power conference schools. The Bottom are doing whatever possible to stay FBS.

The top schools in the league would love nothing more than to shed themselves from the bottom of the league. I think we're a couple years away from a serious movement to consider booting ULM and the two non footballs from the conference. The only thing really stopping it right now is that CUSA hasn't fallen apart yet. If any of these things happen, or if a merge happens, Benson is out of a job. Because of this, he has so few options when it comes to quotes. He can't tick off the AAC because if he is out of a job he might find a home with Arresco, but he can't tick off his own schools either.

To be fair, thats part of what is driving this P6 marketing. If there ever is a split, the AAC wants to improve its perception to the point that the conference might get included in any D4 super division.

Oh, I completely applaud the idea and concept. It's just that you guys are probably trying to wish something impossible into existence. I label it no different than Arkansas State applying to join the Big 12 a year ago. Nothing to lose, so why not try?

The difference between the AAC and the Sun Belt is that some of the bottom teams that struggle to stay afloat financially reside within the Sun Belt, and we can control whether or not they stay FBS. (Well I guess they could go Indy, but I doubt it)

You guys could all attract 70K fans to every home game, and routinely beat the Power conference schools every year and they'd probably still choose to just grab the few of you they wanted rather than taking the entire conference.

Big difference from Arkansas State applying for Big 12 membership with zero shot. The AAC has multiple schools that have been in a power conference in the past. Cincinnati, uconn, Houston, SMU, and USF. We have two teams that have won major bowls in the last 5 years. We have a team that has won both men's and women's basketball titles. This label is about separation and getting the media used to a different perception.

I think it is working as far as perception goes.

The AAC has always been a league of the left behinds.

It's not that I think you have zero shot, I just believe you have zero shot as an entire league. On their own, sure Houston, UCF, Cincy, maybe Memphis could pull it off. The entire league on the other hand? Not for a separate division. It's not like the Power schools are lining up to play you guys either.

I don't see anything wrong with the concept, I just take issue with Baruna's belief that the Sun Belt needs or cares what the AAC does. Maybe individual schools do, but I can assure you ULM athletics probably doesn't even know the AAC is trying to label itself as a P6.
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I think certain teams within the AAC have separated themselves especially in specific sports, (not as much in football) but the conference itself has no shot of ever being elevated up to the P5 level. I'm sure all of the teams and Arresco realize that to be true, but it still furthers the schools individually and collectively to bang the drum. It could result in more revenue, better bowl tie-ins and the presumed slot for the access bowl if no other G5 team has a banner year.
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RE: Sunbelt Commissioner Karl Benson Comments On "P6" Strategy
if you listened to the podcast he didnt exactly talk bad about it..

he technically said the same thing we do but on a more inclusive basis..
he said there cant be a p6...because there isnt a p5..that its a completely made up term...

he said 5 conferences have the ability to vote that the autonomous 5 is a legislative thing. that there is a sports separation of fbs and fcs...and we are all fbs..he essential says we are p10
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(05-22-2017 04:27 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-22-2017 03:59 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(05-22-2017 03:42 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-22-2017 03:27 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(05-22-2017 03:22 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I see what you are thinking Baruna, but I don't think you understand the real issues within the Sun Belt, nor should you.

There's really little focus on the AAC from within the Sun Belt itself. Our primary focus has always been to be considered stronger than CUSA, mostly due to bitter feelings from the last round of realignment. The only thing the AAC provides for the Sun Belt Right now is a potential bowl opponent and sources for regional home and home deals, and those aren't going away anytime soon.

The Sun Belt's issue is itself. There is a huge gap right now between the Top 5 programs in the league and the bottom 2 or 3. The top 5 are completely obsessed with improving image to the point that they are considered on level with the rest of the non power conference schools. The Bottom are doing whatever possible to stay FBS.

The top schools in the league would love nothing more than to shed themselves from the bottom of the league. I think we're a couple years away from a serious movement to consider booting ULM and the two non footballs from the conference. The only thing really stopping it right now is that CUSA hasn't fallen apart yet. If any of these things happen, or if a merge happens, Benson is out of a job. Because of this, he has so few options when it comes to quotes. He can't tick off the AAC because if he is out of a job he might find a home with Arresco, but he can't tick off his own schools either.

To be fair, thats part of what is driving this P6 marketing. If there ever is a split, the AAC wants to improve its perception to the point that the conference might get included in any D4 super division.

Oh, I completely applaud the idea and concept. It's just that you guys are probably trying to wish something impossible into existence. I label it no different than Arkansas State applying to join the Big 12 a year ago. Nothing to lose, so why not try?

The difference between the AAC and the Sun Belt is that some of the bottom teams that struggle to stay afloat financially reside within the Sun Belt, and we can control whether or not they stay FBS. (Well I guess they could go Indy, but I doubt it)

You guys could all attract 70K fans to every home game, and routinely beat the Power conference schools every year and they'd probably still choose to just grab the few of you they wanted rather than taking the entire conference.

Big difference from Arkansas State applying for Big 12 membership with zero shot. The AAC has multiple schools that have been in a power conference in the past. Cincinnati, uconn, Houston, SMU, and USF. We have two teams that have won major bowls in the last 5 years. We have a team that has won both men's and women's basketball titles. This label is about separation and getting the media used to a different perception.

I think it is working as far as perception goes.

The AAC has always been a league of the left behinds.

It's not that I think you have zero shot, I just believe you have zero shot as an entire league. On their own, sure Houston, UCF, Cincy, maybe Memphis could pull it off. The entire league on the other hand? Not for a separate division. It's not like the Power schools are lining up to play you guys either.

I don't see anything wrong with the concept, I just take issue with Baruna's belief that the Sun Belt needs or cares what the AAC does. Maybe individual schools do, but I can assure you ULM athletics probably doesn't even know the AAC is trying to label itself as a P6.

I know you mean well by posting somewhat nonsense of the AAC programs in this thread but a level headed conversation nonetheless.

The AAC isn't a league of left behinds is more like a league of programs been blocked by those who are afraid of loosing their mojo... Hehe
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I don't think the AAC will be a power 6 anytime soon. But the push by Aresco and the schools as well as their success has already many separating the league from the G4. That is goal #1.
If the league can get that separation to happen in tv money, bowl games and maybe even more access to NY6 bowls. Then the league will be seen as a tweener league.
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(05-22-2017 04:53 PM)pesik Wrote:  if you listened to the podcast he didnt exactly talk bad about it..

he technically said the same thing we do but on a more inclusive basis..
he said there cant be a p6...but there isnt a p5..that its a completely made up term...

he said 5 conferences have the ability to vote and the autonomous 5 is a legislative thing, there is a sports separation of fbs and fcs...and we are all fbs..he essential says we are p10

Yeah, that's a pretty accurate recap.
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(05-22-2017 07:08 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  I don't think the AAC will be a power 6 anytime soon. But the push by Aresco and the schools as well as their success has already many separating the league from the G4. That is goal #1.
If the league can get that separation to happen in tv money, bowl games and maybe even more access to NY6 bowls. Then the league will be seen as a tweener league.

ill be content if the following can be done

1. $5 to 10 million per team
2. improve a few of the bottom tier bowls to get more consistent P5 matchups
3. get a respectable bowl for our champ (or runner up during most years we are in the Access slot) ........gator, belk, etc

do that and there will be a real split between AAC and G4. then it is only a matter of time until the P5 split happens, and at that point, AAC most likely follows. i think that is the ceiling of the AAC in the next 15 years. that is providing no new defections happen.
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(05-22-2017 07:08 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  I don't think the AAC will be a power 6 anytime soon. But the push by Aresco and the schools as well as their success has already many separating the league from the G4. That is goal #1.
If the league can get that separation to happen in tv money, bowl games and maybe even more access to NY6 bowls. Then the league will be seen as a tweener league.

Exactly. Thats what I think as well. We want to improve the value of the conference as a media product. To do that, "Marketing 101" says step one is differentiating the AAC "widgets" from the other "G5 widgets". So out comes the P6 project. Doesn't matter if we get to P6. Just as long as the AAC eventually is perceived as a better more interesting product than the rest of the G5, then you have a better chance of drawing eyeballs to your games and becoming a more valuable media product.
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Not only am I happy about this P6 campaign, I think they need to push this narrative even more. The more this discussion happens the better chance it sticks. If the end result is just putting us in a different classification, that is a win for us.
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