(05-22-2017 10:51 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(05-22-2017 09:20 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  I don't like the idea of further dividing the P5s from the G5s. It sends the message that the G5s occupy a lower division in college football. Say it ain't so, GTS.

It's the only way to filter content until Aurora is around. When Aurora is launched, we might be able to merge them back in together with subtopics ... basically a way to filter a board for specific stuff. But with my work elsewhere on the site (cleaning up MT.org etc) Aurora is probably going to be delayed a fair bit, so this is a prudent move for now IMO.

You have written a fair and logical answer. You know this site in ways I will never understand. Thank you for the response.

(05-22-2017 10:00 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  The best thing about this board is that you have posters of all teams stopping through here; P5, BB schools, G5, FCS, Hockey schools, DII.

The boards wouldn't be as strong if divided up.

The answer is to recruit more mods, some G5 mods and FCS mods for it to share the workload. Splitting the board is going to kill it, one of the few solid sports boards remaining around.

This X 100

Not sure my opinion matters as I don't post that often here. However what makes this place unique is the exchange between fans from diverse perspectives on the state of college athletics from a business standpoint. Splitting the board would destroy what makes it unique and special.

I nominate Stever. I know some have issues with him but I think hed be a fair moderator

Bossman, TOGC and Tallgrass would be my choices for new mods.

(05-23-2017 09:50 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Bossman, TOGC and Tallgrass would be my choices for new mods.

What about Savacool?

(05-23-2017 09:53 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(05-23-2017 09:50 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Bossman, TOGC and Tallgrass would be my choices for new mods.

What about Savacool?

I don't think he could handle the job nearly as well as these 3.

(05-21-2017 10:42 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Good evening.

We will be splitting this forum into P5 and G5 subforums.

If this thing never got split in the official BCS non-BCS era what makes this P5/G5 so special as to necessitate a split?

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If all you are really looking for is mods to keep up with the traffic in this forum then why not just add mods? I can't see the split along those lines justified.

It's sad, with this p5 split going on here at CSNBBS this place is starting to feel icky already, Iam going to stick around to see how this shacks out, but gosh it stinks pretty bad to me
Knowing now what I know about this site being owned and operated by ALL p5ers, mods, just like CFB is today with media and selection committees that are all from a p5 conference, it just never ends it seems
I've only been around here for a little bit " 4 weeks, 1day, 1 hour, 50 mins , Iam wondering if I'll make it to 5 weeks after seeing what this place might be turning into, or already has, I've seen some mods take exception to my anti p5 talk and even being warned and have had some topics even deleted , because it wasn't what they agreeded with, imo" so mybe Iam not too surprised by yesterday's announcement.
I don't want to continue accumulating time spent here that might mean add dollars for a p5 platform, if in fact that is what it is turning into.
Are there any other sports boards like this one out there that aren't p5 controlled?
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I really don't understand why so many people are getting riled up about this. GTS owns this site and can do whatever he wants with it. I only skimmed the thread so I may have missed some key info, but the P5 board will either attract more P5 posters and thrive or become yet another low volume/inactive forum on this site. The majority of posts on this board and a considerable amount of activity on the site is non P5. People go where the activity is. The AAC board attracts readers and posters from all conferences. When someone gets snippy about non-AAC posters, quite a few have responded with something like "I read/post here because of the activity and info posted." The same will prove true with any new boards, people will follow activity and info. I could better understand ruffled feathers if the reverse were true and there were predominantly P5 threads on this board and the powers that be announced a split, but that's not the case. It'll either attract more like minded posters and be a viable place to discuss P5 issues or it won't. Based on current volume alone, the other sub forum shouldn't have a problem with activity and as with anything else if it is more active, then more eyeballs will follow, be they P5, G5, DI, FCS and whoever else I'm missing (apologies for that).

(05-24-2017 06:34 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  I really don't understand why so many people are getting riled up about this. GTS owns this site and can do whatever he wants with it. I only skimmed the thread so I may have missed some key info, but the P5 board will either attract more P5 posters and thrive or become yet another low volume/inactive forum on this site. The majority of posts on this board and a considerable amount of activity on the site is non P5. People go where the activity is. The AAC board attracts readers and posters from all conferences. When someone gets snippy about non-AAC posters, quite a few have responded with something like "I read/post here because of the activity and info posted." The same will prove true with any new boards, people will follow activity and info. I could better understand ruffled feathers if the reverse were true and there were predominantly P5 threads on this board and the powers that be announced a split, but that's not the case. It'll either attract more like minded posters and be a viable place to discuss P5 issues or it won't. Based on current volume alone, the other sub forum shouldn't have a problem with activity and as with anything else if it is more active, then more eyeballs will follow, be they P5, G5, DI, FCS and whoever else I'm missing (apologies for that).

I am more of an inclusion than splitting everything apart. We should blame ESPN for making the split to happen. Maybe the NCAA should go the way of the Pros for tv rights? Collective bargaining for all D1 schools for all sports.

Well, since everyone's venting their feelings.

I agree with what GulfCoastGal said as far as people go where the action is. I was drawn to this board for this reason. Especially in the offseason when the CUSA board slows down and ODU's board devolves into bickering. Simply splitting this board into P5 & G5 didn't seem like a good idea to me because as has been mentioned, there's other Divisions that get discussed, and topics that overarch all of college sports. Keeping a general college sports & realignment board and adding G5 & P5 boards seems like a good solution. I'm not real interested in a P5 board but can appreciate if posters want to talk about their schools sports in peace. I might be interested in a G5 board if it picks up steam, where we can measure our dicks and make fun of the AAC for their little P6 stickers and bowl performance. Do as you will though. I'll find a place.

(05-24-2017 02:05 AM)JHS55 Wrote:  It's sad, with this p5 split going on here at CSNBBS this place is starting to feel icky already, Iam going to stick around to see how this shacks out, but gosh it stinks pretty bad to me
Knowing now what I know about this site being owned and operated by ALL p5ers, mods, just like CFB is today with media and selection committees that are all from a p5 conference, it just never ends it seems
I've only been around here for a little bit " 4 weeks, 1day, 1 hour, 50 mins , Iam wondering if I'll make it to 5 weeks after seeing what this place might be turning into, or already has, I've seen some mods take exception to my anti p5 talk and even being warned and have had some topics even deleted , because it wasn't what they agreeded with, imo" so mybe Iam not too surprised by yesterday's announcement.
I don't want to continue accumulating time spent here that might mean add dollars for a p5 platform, if in fact that is what it is turning into.
Are there any other sports boards like this one out there that aren't p5 controlled?
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Hey dont give up on this site just yet. The mods are having some discussions where we are trying to keep everyone happy. There is no other board like this that I have found so we would hope that every one keep patient until it gets figured out.

I think this change mimics the way other areas of the board are organized. It doesn't prevent anyone from posting on any other board.

I would be OK with a G5 monitor on the P5 board. I suspect most G5 members would object to a P5 monitor on their board.

(05-23-2017 09:50 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Bossman, TOGC and Tallgrass would be my choices for new mods.

I nominate Buckaineer.

I nominate David St

(05-24-2017 07:44 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-24-2017 02:05 AM)JHS55 Wrote:  It's sad, with this p5 split going on here at CSNBBS this place is starting to feel icky already, Iam going to stick around to see how this shacks out, but gosh it stinks pretty bad to me
Knowing now what I know about this site being owned and operated by ALL p5ers, mods, just like CFB is today with media and selection committees that are all from a p5 conference, it just never ends it seems
I've only been around here for a little bit " 4 weeks, 1day, 1 hour, 50 mins , Iam wondering if I'll make it to 5 weeks after seeing what this place might be turning into, or already has, I've seen some mods take exception to my anti p5 talk and even being warned and have had some topics even deleted , because it wasn't what they agreeded with, imo" so mybe Iam not too surprised by yesterday's announcement.
I don't want to continue accumulating time spent here that might mean add dollars for a p5 platform, if in fact that is what it is turning into.
Are there any other sports boards like this one out there that aren't p5 controlled?
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Hey dont give up on this site just yet. The mods are having some discussions where we are trying to keep everyone happy. There is no other board like this that I have found so we would hope that every one keep patient until it gets figured out.

What's been the general opinion of the mods and admins about ramping up warnings, suspensions, and bans? I know they aren't popular, almost a nuclear option to some, but, there are some chronic abusers on here that challenge the dialogue and discussions. Not just the trolls, but those who indulge them.

It just seems like the issue is discipline, or the lack thereof. This is a great central repository for all sorts of news, information, and discussion across the NCAA (and I mean that to include the D2 and D3 stuff). If you're going to get someone trying to big-league a discussion or poster, zero tolerance, straight up punish it. Same goes for those who steer or bait others.

Nobody wants to be a cop or parent on these things, but, if it concerns you all this much, I doubt the resolution you seek from this change is what you'll get. Overall, things are fine...imo. You just have a couple of boneheads here and there...do something about them instead?

And someone brought up the trickle-down thing when there are conference realignment arcs...if an AAC move impacts FCS and then impacts non-fb...the discussions spill over across their respective forums undoing the intent of these generated barriers.

(05-24-2017 07:46 AM)Wolfman Wrote:  I think this change mimics the way other areas of the board are organized. It doesn't prevent anyone from posting on any other board.

I would be OK with a G5 monitor on the P5 board. I suspect most G5 members would object to a P5 monitor on their board.

I suppose you are correct as many of the conference boards are full of sub-boards but I am a bit disappointed in this since I enjoy stopping by this board each day to get a quick look at subjects covering all aspects of college sports. By breaking it up it makes it a little harder to keep up with the issues of the day.

(05-24-2017 09:19 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  I suppose you are correct as many of the conference boards are full of sub-boards but I am a bit disappointed in this since I enjoy stopping by this board each day to get a quick look at subjects covering all aspects of college sports. By breaking it up it makes it a little harder to keep up with the issues of the day.

I agree. Since conference realignment still pops up from time to time, I like the general focus. I'm also interested in basketball and the other Olympic sports that get discussed here. I probably wouldn't visit P5 or G5 boards.

My three cents:

I like this forum the way it is, for two reasons. First, because as others have said, it seems to be the only "common ground" forum, where fans of all schools and conferences can discuss the Big Issues Affecting College Sports, particularly ones that transcend all conferences. Second, there isn't any other place that is kind of neutral territory among schools and conferences.

That's valuable, because if you go to a conference board, you really can't speak freely, meaning "negatively" or critically.

E.g., the ACC board is supposed to be for discussion of all things related to the ACC, whether positive or critical, but in practice, like all the other conference boards, it is moderated as a "fan" board. So if you say something that isn't Rah-Rah, like "I think Swofford has been doing a lousy job on the ACCN negotiations", it won't take long for other posters or even a Mod to reply with "Hey, this is Home Turf for ACC fans, if you want to talk negatively about our commissioner or the ACC, take it somewhere else" or "poster X should be banned because all he does is talk down the conference", etc.

... and this board is the only place else to take it.