There are a total of 351 DI programs. Only 138 of them are west of the Mississippi River. That's a wild statistic.

(05-21-2017 07:35 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  There are exactly 32 D-I programs west of the San Antonio minus California. Even with it, there's only 56 and just 3-5 outside LA and the Bay Area.

Does the Sacramento area count as Bay Area? What about Santa Barbara and San Diego with respect to the LA area? Because if we don't count any of those, I see eight D1 schools in CA outside the two huge population zones: Fresno State, CSU Bakersfield, Cal Poly SLO, UCSB, SDSU, San Diego, Sacramento State and UC Davis. Sorry, just being a little pedantic.

OP, this is a great map. You should consider posting it over on the college basketball and college football sections of reddit.

(05-21-2017 07:45 PM)rknj8993 Wrote:  There are a total of 351 DI programs. Only 138 of them are west of the Mississippi River. That's a wild statistic.

What percentage of the US population is west of the Mississippi river?

This says 41%

http://www.answers.com/Q/What_it_the_pop...ississippi

138 of 351 D1 programs west of the Mississippi is 39% so its pretty population proportionate.

(05-21-2017 07:47 PM)GiveEmTheAxe Wrote:  

(05-21-2017 07:35 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  There are exactly 32 D-I programs west of the San Antonio minus California. Even with it, there's only 56 and just 3-5 outside LA and the Bay Area.

Does the Sacramento area count as Bay Area? What about Santa Barbara and San Diego with respect to the LA area? Because if we don't count any of those, I see eight D1 schools in CA outside the two huge population zones: Fresno State, CSU Bakersfield, Cal Poly SLO, UCSB, SDSU, San Diego, Sacramento State and UC Davis. Sorry, just being a little pedantic.

OP, this is a great map. You should consider posting it over on the college basketball and college football sections of reddit.

Okay, outside the major metro areas. Sacramento, even though it is very much independent, as well as Modesto and Stockton are pretty much extensions of the Bay Area. Bakersfield, though I know it's history, is a colony of LA. San Diego is San Diego but all part of the urban agglomeration of SoCal.

(05-21-2017 07:51 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(05-21-2017 07:45 PM)rknj8993 Wrote:  There are a total of 351 DI programs. Only 138 of them are west of the Mississippi River. That's a wild statistic.

What percentage of the US population is west of the Mississippi river?

This says 41%

http://www.answers.com/Q/What_it_the_pop...ississippi

138 of 351 D1 programs west of the Mississippi is 39% so its pretty population proportionate.

Just imagine if California wasn't there. It makes up for what otherwise is vast empty space out west.

Five states have one D-I school, Minnesota, Maine, Vermont, Hawai'i and Wyoming while one has none, Alaska. There are eight with 2 and four with 3, meaning there are 316 schools in 33+1 states. There are 4 in Washington DC alone not counting George Mason on the outskirts.

State-by-state breakdown:
Hawaii - 1
Minnesota - 1
Maine - 1
Vermont - 1
Wyoming - 1

Delaware - 2
Montana - 2
Nevada - 2
New Hampshire - 2
New Mexico - 2
North Dakota - 2
South Dakota - 2
West Virginia - 2

Arizona - 3
Idaho - 3
Kansas - 3
Nebraska - 3

District of Columbia - 4
Iowa - 4
Oklahoma - 4
Oregon - 4
Rhode Island - 4
Wisconsin - 4

Arkansas - 5
Colorado - 5
Missouri - 5
Washington - 5

Massachusetts - 6
Mississippi - 6
Utah - 6

Connecticut - 7
Georgia - 7
Kentucky - 7
Michigan - 7

New Jersey - 8

Alabama - 9
Maryland - 9

Indiana - 10

Louisiana - 12
South Carolina - 12
Tennessee - 12

Florida - 13
Illinois - 13
Ohio - 13

Pennsylvania - 14
Virginia - 14

North Carolina - 18

New York - 21
Texas - 21

California - 24

(05-21-2017 07:23 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(05-21-2017 07:17 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  D-I is full. Anyone not already at that level won't ever be a program worth discussing, minus an NCAA Tournament upset or two.

I don't think it is full. Bellarmine is ripe for Horizon League to grab. They fit the profile for that conference.

WAC is not full. They need to grab more schools with the issues of Chicago State and UMKC may go back to the Summit.

Big South and A-Sun still could be raided, and may raid D2 again.

Robert Morris wants out of their conference. One of the three I mentioned on the east coast might replaced them. It have to be the right schools that conferences would want.

Quit turning every thread into your fantasy D2 call-ups.

Great job with the OP plus the state breakdown. Thanks!

(05-21-2017 09:07 PM)rknj8993 Wrote:  State-by-state breakdown:

As an addendum, here's a rank of states and their ratio of people (in millions) to team, listed in descending order:

Minnesota: 5.52
Arizona: 2.31
California: 1.64
Florida: 1.59
Georgia: 1.47
Nevada: 1.47
Washington: 1.46
Wisconsin: 1.45
Hawaii: 1.43
Michigan: 1.42
Maine: 1.33
Texas: 1.33
Missouri: 1.22
Massachusetts: 1.14
New Jersey: 1.12
Colorado: 1.11
New Mexico: 1.04
Oregon: 1.02
Illinois: 0.98
Oklahoma: 0.98
Kansas: 0.97
New York: 0.94
West Virginia: 0.92
Pennsylvania: 0.91
Ohio: 0.89
Iowa: 0.79
New Hampshire: 0.67
Maryland: 0.67
Indiana: 0.66
Nebraska: 0.63
Vermont: 0.62
Virginia: 0.60
Arkansas: 0.60
Wyoming: 0.59
North Carolina: 0.56
Idaho: 0.56
Tennessee: 0.55
Alabama: 0.54
Montana: 0.52
Connecticut: 0.51
Utah: 0.51
Mississippi: 0.50
Delaware: 0.48
South Dakota: 0.44
South Carolina: 0.41
Louisiana: 0.39
North Dakota: 0.38
Rhode Island: 0.27
DC: 0.17
Alaska: N/A

Arizona will have another full DI shortly, as GCU will enter the ranks. That may hold true for some others too.

That I-35 to I-29(Kansas City up to Canada/Pembina, ND line) is crazy split.

Would be interesting to see what schools fall around the mid points of 2 current D-I teams in the West. Are a lot of the gaps where D-II schools are?

If you break it down further. How many D1 schools with football west of I35, and break it down to how many population for football schools? Some states have too many at D1, while others have too few.

Many states have schools clustered at one edge or even corner.

(05-21-2017 03:44 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  I thought it was bad how these big western states had 1-3 programs apiece until I saw that Minnesota had one. Yet Minnesota sports are mediocre at best.

What's bad about it?

(05-22-2017 03:58 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  Many states have schools clustered at one edge or even corner.

I suspect that has something to do with the fact that state borders are often defined by major rivers.

(05-21-2017 07:51 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(05-21-2017 07:45 PM)rknj8993 Wrote:  There are a total of 351 DI programs. Only 138 of them are west of the Mississippi River. That's a wild statistic.

What percentage of the US population is west of the Mississippi river?

This says 41%

http://www.answers.com/Q/What_it_the_pop...ississippi

138 of 351 D1 programs west of the Mississippi is 39% so its pretty population proportionate.

There's only 27 FBS schools out of 131 total, west of Texas. And two of them (NMSU & Idaho) could be gone in a year. So out of 131 FBS football programs there could be only 25 west of Texas. Smallest number ever, with an exploding population in places like Vegas, Pheonix, Denver, Portland & Seattle and of course LA, San Diego and San Fran/San Jose.

It is a great map. Some areas (DC, Philly, etc.) are so dense you can't read it. Is it possible to move the logo, use a small dot for the location, then connect them with a line?

(05-22-2017 08:19 AM)westwolf Wrote:  

(05-21-2017 03:44 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  I thought it was bad how these big western states had 1-3 programs apiece until I saw that Minnesota had one. Yet Minnesota sports are mediocre at best.

What's bad about it?

You'd expect more...but you'd really expect more from a place like Minnesota. And even without any competition, Minnesota sports are generally mediocre.

(05-21-2017 11:12 PM)spenser Wrote:  That I-35 to I-29(Kansas City up to Canada/Pembina, ND line) is crazy split.

Would be interesting to see what schools fall around the mid points of 2 current D-I teams in the West. Are a lot of the gaps where D-II schools are?

That's basically the 100th Meridian (actual line is a little west). This is roughly where the Great Plains really start - west of the line averages less than 20" of rain/year. East of the line, more than 20" of rain/year. 20" is in general what most trees need to make a forest. Below that, trees are scattered and concentrated in areas where moisture collects, like along streams and in low areas.

Great map, thanks for sharing. I'm late to the party with the comment, but I have to echo how interesting it is to see the geographic placement of the universities in the great plain states. I basically knew where most were located within their state, but had never put it all together in my mind to get that near straight line image.