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A look at SB at-large chances going into baseball Tourney
The committee will have an interesting decision regarding the Sun Belt. I think we all can agree USA Coastal and Louisiana are the only schools with at at-large chance.
A few comparisons:
RPI:
USA 36
Coastal 48
Louisiana 51
Record vs top 50:
Louisiana 10-8-1
USA 4-12
Coastal 2-8
Record vs top 100:
Louisiana 14-15-1
Coastal 8-12-1
USA 7-16
Place in Sun Belt:
Coastal 1st
USA 3rd
Louisiana 4th
It will be an interesting decision but I m still sticking to my prediction of 2 bids.
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RE: A look at SB at-large chances going into baseball Tourney
I think USA is pretty much a lock. If they win the tournament it will be interesting to see what the committee does but I wouldn't expect an at-large team for the conference.
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RE: A look at SB at-large chances going into baseball Tourney
I m of the opinion Louisiana would go ahead of USA. I know USA has a better RPI but their record vs top 50 or top 100 is not good
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RE: A look at SB at-large chances going into baseball Tourney
I think Louisiana has the best chance over Coastal Carolina for an at-large bid, despite the #51 RPI. The series win over #10 Southern Miss is going to catch some attention.
In 2007, Troy had a #52 RPI after losing in the SBC Tournament, but received an at-large bid over others because of the high amount of Top 50 wins, including some Top 15 wins. Louisiana is in a similar situation. If they can win at least two games in the tournament, I think they'll be in.
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RE: A look at SB at-large chances going into baseball Tourney
(05-21-2017 03:10 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote: I m of the opinion Louisiana would go ahead of USA. I know USA has a better RPI but their record vs top 50 or top 100 is not good
USA had a strong OOC schedule but had some setbacks in the first half of the season with injuries to several key players (lost a pitcher for the season) and a 3 week flu bug. We didn't have our full offense on the field until mid-season. Despite that I still think we are on the good side of the bubble unless we implode in the SBC Tourney. I think we have won 16 of our last 20 games (3-1 vs Top 50 in that time) which looks much better than we did last year when we started off great, including 15-0 in conference, but limped into the SBC Tournament having won only 5 of our last 12. If we go two and que then we probably fall to the bad side of the bubble
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RE: A look at SB at-large chances going into baseball Tourney
Generally a RPI under 45 will get an at-large bid so on RPI USA looks good. I would love to see 2 Belt at-larges with someone like GS -- imagine me wanting that-- winning the tourney. To me Louisiana s resume is better than South s at this point though
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RE: A look at SB at-large chances going into baseball Tourney
(05-21-2017 04:40 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote: Generally a RPI under 45 will get an at-large bid so on RPI USA looks good. I would love to see 2 Belt at-larges with someone like GS -- imagine me wanting that-- winning the tourney. To me Louisiana s resume is better than South s at this point though
The only thing hurting the Cajuns (other than RPI), is they placed 4th in the conference.
(This post was last modified: 05-21-2017 05:10 PM by USAJag2011.)
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RE: A look at SB at-large chances going into baseball Tourney
(05-21-2017 03:04 PM)rokamortis Wrote: I think USA is pretty much a lock. If they win the tournament it will be interesting to see what the committee does but I wouldn't expect an at-large team for the conference.
I'm not ready to say that. Their record vs RPI top 50 and RPI top 100 is pretty poor. Provided they don't screw around in the tourney and take a couple bad losses, I think the Cajuns get the At Large over USA based on their better overall wins, and series win over the Jags.
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A look at SB at-large chances going into baseball Tourney
(05-21-2017 02:59 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote: The committee will have an interesting decision regarding the Sun Belt. I think we all can agree USA Coastal and Louisiana are the only schools with at at-large chance.
A few comparisons:
RPI:
USA 36
Coastal 48
Louisiana 51
Record vs top 50:
Louisiana 10-8-1
USA 4-12
Coastal 2-8
Record vs top 100:
Louisiana 14-15-1
Coastal 8-12-1
USA 7-16
Place in Sun Belt:
Coastal 1st
USA 3rd
Louisiana 4th
It will be an interesting decision but I m still sticking to my prediction of 2 bids.
I think when you're looking at actual NCAA resumes you'd say USA finished 2nd in the SBC, not 3rd. Yes, they are the third seed, but they had the second best record in the conference.
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RE: A look at SB at-large chances going into baseball Tourney
(05-21-2017 05:10 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote: (05-21-2017 04:40 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote: Generally a RPI under 45 will get an at-large bid so on RPI USA looks good. I would love to see 2 Belt at-larges with someone like GS -- imagine me wanting that-- winning the tourney. To me Louisiana s resume is better than South s at this point though
The only thing hurting the Cajuns (other than RPI), is they placed 4th in the conference.
Our rpi takes a huge hit because of ST Peters who went 0'fer for the season.
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RE: A look at SB at-large chances going into baseball Tourney
If it's close we would hope that CCU gets a bump by virtue of being defending champ
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RE: A look at SB at-large chances going into baseball Tourney
(05-21-2017 09:34 PM)Tealblood Wrote: If it's close we would hope that CCU gets a bump by virtue of being defending champ
If it's close, CCU is a lock for an at large. You gotta think that
the defending National Champions will get in.
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RE: A look at SB at-large chances going into baseball Tourney
Boyd Nation was on a local radio station in Mobile this morning. He thinks the Jags are in as long as we don't go 0-2 this week. If Coastal does well, they have a very good chance. Everyone else has to win the tournament.
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RE: A look at SB at-large chances going into baseball Tourney
(05-21-2017 04:25 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote: (05-21-2017 03:10 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote: I m of the opinion Louisiana would go ahead of USA. I know USA has a better RPI but their record vs top 50 or top 100 is not good
USA had a strong OOC schedule but had some setbacks in the first half of the season with injuries to several key players (lost a pitcher for the season) and a 3 week flu bug. We didn't have our full offense on the field until mid-season. Despite that I still think we are on the good side of the bubble unless we implode in the SBC Tourney. I think we have won 16 of our last 20 games (3-1 vs Top 50 in that time) which looks much better than we did last year when we started off great, including 15-0 in conference, but limped into the SBC Tournament having won only 5 of our last 12. If we go two and que then we probably fall to the bad side of the bubble
I'm wondering how close the committee will look at those games. If they do, I would say you'd have to look at how much one three game series where the Cajuns won all three have on the Cajuns RPI. Without St. Peters, the Cajuns RPI would be better than SoAL. It guess this would also be fitting as in the past the Jags jumped the Cajuns for a tournament berty by playing a game after the conference tournament when they finished behind them in regular season and lost the head-to-head.
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RE: A look at SB at-large chances going into baseball Tourney
Top 100 record isn't a big deal when looking at at-large selections. Top 50 is considered the peer group and the Cajuns have a big advantage there. CCU gets the big bump in the eyes of the committee for their regular season championship.
In our case, we do not want USA to win the tournament (not that I'd want them to win it anyway ). This would put us 3rd in the pecking order of SBC teams for consideration.
The other thing we need to watch for is teams from other conferences stealing bids by winning their respective tournament and another team from that conference getting an at large bid (see anyone other than Southeastern Louisiana winning the Southland for instance).
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RE: A look at SB at-large chances going into baseball Tourney
(05-22-2017 09:13 AM)CajunAmos Wrote: (05-21-2017 04:25 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote: (05-21-2017 03:10 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote: I m of the opinion Louisiana would go ahead of USA. I know USA has a better RPI but their record vs top 50 or top 100 is not good
USA had a strong OOC schedule but had some setbacks in the first half of the season with injuries to several key players (lost a pitcher for the season) and a 3 week flu bug. We didn't have our full offense on the field until mid-season. Despite that I still think we are on the good side of the bubble unless we implode in the SBC Tourney. I think we have won 16 of our last 20 games (3-1 vs Top 50 in that time) which looks much better than we did last year when we started off great, including 15-0 in conference, but limped into the SBC Tournament having won only 5 of our last 12. If we go two and que then we probably fall to the bad side of the bubble
I'm wondering how close the committee will look at those games. If they do, I would say you'd have to look at how much one three game series where the Cajuns won all three have on the Cajuns RPI. Without St. Peters, the Cajuns RPI would be better than SoAL.
They don't look at those games. That would set a bad precedent as any school can now schedule a team like that, get 3 wins, and then have the committee throw it out. The coaching staff really screwed up by scheduling St. Peter's.
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RE: A look at SB at-large chances going into baseball Tourney
(05-22-2017 09:16 AM)Cajunman02 Wrote: (05-22-2017 09:13 AM)CajunAmos Wrote: (05-21-2017 04:25 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote: (05-21-2017 03:10 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote: I m of the opinion Louisiana would go ahead of USA. I know USA has a better RPI but their record vs top 50 or top 100 is not good
USA had a strong OOC schedule but had some setbacks in the first half of the season with injuries to several key players (lost a pitcher for the season) and a 3 week flu bug. We didn't have our full offense on the field until mid-season. Despite that I still think we are on the good side of the bubble unless we implode in the SBC Tourney. I think we have won 16 of our last 20 games (3-1 vs Top 50 in that time) which looks much better than we did last year when we started off great, including 15-0 in conference, but limped into the SBC Tournament having won only 5 of our last 12. If we go two and que then we probably fall to the bad side of the bubble
I'm wondering how close the committee will look at those games. If they do, I would say you'd have to look at how much one three game series where the Cajuns won all three have on the Cajuns RPI. Without St. Peters, the Cajuns RPI would be better than SoAL.
They don't look at those games. That would set a bad precedent as any school can now schedule a team like that, get 3 wins, and then have the committee throw it out. The coaching staff really screwed up by scheduling St. Peter's.
My comment was directed to SoAL saying they had players sick and lost players due to injury. I was saying if they can go back to look at how those situation affect record, then could you look at other items.
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RE: A look at SB at-large chances going into baseball Tourney
(05-22-2017 09:17 AM)CajunAmos Wrote: (05-22-2017 09:16 AM)Cajunman02 Wrote: (05-22-2017 09:13 AM)CajunAmos Wrote: (05-21-2017 04:25 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote: (05-21-2017 03:10 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote: I m of the opinion Louisiana would go ahead of USA. I know USA has a better RPI but their record vs top 50 or top 100 is not good
USA had a strong OOC schedule but had some setbacks in the first half of the season with injuries to several key players (lost a pitcher for the season) and a 3 week flu bug. We didn't have our full offense on the field until mid-season. Despite that I still think we are on the good side of the bubble unless we implode in the SBC Tourney. I think we have won 16 of our last 20 games (3-1 vs Top 50 in that time) which looks much better than we did last year when we started off great, including 15-0 in conference, but limped into the SBC Tournament having won only 5 of our last 12. If we go two and que then we probably fall to the bad side of the bubble
I'm wondering how close the committee will look at those games. If they do, I would say you'd have to look at how much one three game series where the Cajuns won all three have on the Cajuns RPI. Without St. Peters, the Cajuns RPI would be better than SoAL.
They don't look at those games. That would set a bad precedent as any school can now schedule a team like that, get 3 wins, and then have the committee throw it out. The coaching staff really screwed up by scheduling St. Peter's.
My comment was directed to SoAL saying they had players sick and lost players due to injury. I was saying if they can go back to look at how those situation affect record, then could you look at other items.
I wasn't suggesting the committee would look at those games. I was addressing our top 50 record and offering some insight for the board, but was saying despite that think we've done enough to get in.
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A look at SB at-large chances going into baseball Tourney
(05-22-2017 09:33 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote: (05-22-2017 09:17 AM)CajunAmos Wrote: (05-22-2017 09:16 AM)Cajunman02 Wrote: (05-22-2017 09:13 AM)CajunAmos Wrote: (05-21-2017 04:25 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote: USA had a strong OOC schedule but had some setbacks in the first half of the season with injuries to several key players (lost a pitcher for the season) and a 3 week flu bug. We didn't have our full offense on the field until mid-season. Despite that I still think we are on the good side of the bubble unless we implode in the SBC Tourney. I think we have won 16 of our last 20 games (3-1 vs Top 50 in that time) which looks much better than we did last year when we started off great, including 15-0 in conference, but limped into the SBC Tournament having won only 5 of our last 12. If we go two and que then we probably fall to the bad side of the bubble
I'm wondering how close the committee will look at those games. If they do, I would say you'd have to look at how much one three game series where the Cajuns won all three have on the Cajuns RPI. Without St. Peters, the Cajuns RPI would be better than SoAL.
They don't look at those games. That would set a bad precedent as any school can now schedule a team like that, get 3 wins, and then have the committee throw it out. The coaching staff really screwed up by scheduling St. Peter's.
My comment was directed to SoAL saying they had players sick and lost players due to injury. I was saying if they can go back to look at how those situation affect record, then could you look at other items.
I wasn't suggesting the committee would look at those games. I was addressing our top 50 record and offering some insight for the board, but was saying despite that think we've done enough to get in.
Your point about how USA finished the season is the most relevant. The committee will take that into consideration, but a bad showing in the conference tournament would really diminish it.
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RE: A look at SB at-large chances going into baseball Tourney
(05-22-2017 08:23 AM)USAJag2011 Wrote: Boyd Nation was on a local radio station in Mobile this morning. He thinks the Jags are in as long as we don't go 0-2 this week. If Coastal does well, they have a very good chance. Everyone else has to win the tournament.
We're on the same side of the bracket, so I must hope you go 0-2...sorry.
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