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RE: App State Locks Down Satt
(05-19-2017 03:33 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(05-19-2017 03:08 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Lot of projection in this thread. I know the rest of the conference just muttered "dammit" to themselves.

It's not just projection. Neal Brown signed a similar length contract during the offseason. Most P5 schools could pay our buyouts four times over and still pay the coach they take a hefty salary. It's literally nothing more than a protective barrier against other G5 schools. I would bet money that if Neal Brown continues to win 10 games a year, he will not finish out his contract with Troy. P.J. Fleck had a six year contract with WMU through the 2020 football season. He left in 2016 to be the head coach at Minnesota, a garbage level P5 program. Lets not act like a huge financial gap doesn't exist between the G5 and the P5.
UH was paying Herman 3 million a year and ready to go to 4 million or more and he at Texas now. There is no MBB or football coach in the G5 who is safe.
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(05-19-2017 03:33 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(05-19-2017 03:08 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Lot of projection in this thread. I know the rest of the conference just muttered "dammit" to themselves.

It's not just projection. Neal Brown signed a similar length contract during the offseason. Most P5 schools could pay our buyouts four times over and still pay the coach they take a hefty salary. It's literally nothing more than a protective barrier against other G5 schools. I would bet money that if Neal Brown continues to win 10 games a year, he will not finish out his contract with Troy. P.J. Fleck had a six year contract with WMU through the 2020 football season. He left in 2016 to be the head coach at Minnesota, a garbage level P5 program. Lets not act like a huge financial gap doesn't exist between the G5 and the P5.

It's never about insuring the guy will stay forever. It is about shrinking the pool of schools that can hire them away.
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Satterfield has kids in high school right now in Boone. I've heard he wants them to finish school and then he's gone. That will probably be around '20 or '21 so this contract extension makes sense. Still, everyone (and I mean everyone) has a price so we shall see...
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Nothing more effective than getting a raise and having your employer broadcast your resume to the media to fend off suitors. Particularly when the position is entry level. Yea he's gone and there's not much you can do but throw some money around in hopes of impressing the soon to be new staff. 03-lmfao
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(05-19-2017 04:13 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  Nothing more effective than getting a raise and having your employer broadcast your resume to the media to fend off suitors. Particularly when the position is entry level. Yea he's gone and there's not much you can do but throw some money around in hopes of impressing the soon to be new staff. 03-lmfao

Yeah, if only App was as good at coaching hires as Georgia Southern.
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(05-19-2017 06:54 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(05-19-2017 04:13 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  Nothing more effective than getting a raise and having your employer broadcast your resume to the media to fend off suitors. Particularly when the position is entry level. Yea he's gone and there's not much you can do but throw some money around in hopes of impressing the soon to be new staff. 03-lmfao

Yeah, if only App was as good at coaching hires as Georgia Southern.

I'd say we've hired some pretty damn good ones.

One that arguably should be in the Hall of Fame if it wasn't for a technicality about how long you have to be a HC.

But we've also made some bad ones, granted.

You guys haven't had anyone coming after your coaches yet. You've hired 2 coaches in the last 30 or so years?
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(05-19-2017 06:54 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(05-19-2017 04:13 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  Nothing more effective than getting a raise and having your employer broadcast your resume to the media to fend off suitors. Particularly when the position is entry level. Yea he's gone and there's not much you can do but throw some money around in hopes of impressing the soon to be new staff. 03-lmfao

Yeah, if only App was as good at coaching hires as Georgia Southern.

You try and make 6 coaching hires in a period of 15 years and see if your program never effs up.

Well, you could probably eff up less than GS, but you will almost surely have to remove at least one or two coaches by force.
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The BIG rumor behind closed doors a year ago was the NC State job was Satt's for the taking until Doeren beat UNCheat.
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The terms should come out on Monday so we'll see exactly what changed. Even though the contract lasts for 5 more years it was really only a 1 year extension from the previous deal. Knowing that I'm sure we stepped up to reward him, AND we likely bumped our previously very low buyout to a much higher figure now. This move should keep some higher end G5 schools away (maybe some P5 schools that are known dead end jobs), but we won't be able to fend off the big boys if they come calling. I'm sure Satterfield is fine with his alma mater making more coin if someone wants to buy us out. Should be a win-win for him and App.
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(05-20-2017 08:42 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  The BIG rumor behind closed doors a year ago was the NC State job was Satt's for the taking until Doeren beat UNCheat.

The Cincinnati thing was bigger than people realize as well.

But yeah, this too.
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Happiest two days for a sports fan...when the hire/sign a coach, and when said coach leaves.
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I remember losing to NC A&T. I do think coaching changes after 2-5 years are different than changes after 20 years........ but I certainly remember losing to A&T.
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(05-20-2017 09:02 PM)T-Dog Wrote:  
(05-20-2017 08:42 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  The BIG rumor behind closed doors a year ago was the NC State job was Satt's for the taking until Doeren beat UNCheat.

The Cincinnati thing was bigger than people realize as well.

But yeah, this too.

Yes it was...
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(05-21-2017 08:44 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(05-20-2017 09:02 PM)T-Dog Wrote:  
(05-20-2017 08:42 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  The BIG rumor behind closed doors a year ago was the NC State job was Satt's for the taking until Doeren beat UNCheat.

The Cincinnati thing was bigger than people realize as well.

But yeah, this too.

Yes it was...

My take on this is that this is a win for both parties. I do think it helps Satt and makes it easier to stay, and it protects the school and makes stepping up for the next coach easier with Satterfield's buyout money should he decide to leave early. My gut tells me that he will be our coach for at least 3-5 more years. Satt just made AppState an even more attractive position for the next coach should he decide to leave, and honestly for that I thank him.
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(05-22-2017 01:26 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  
(05-21-2017 08:44 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(05-20-2017 09:02 PM)T-Dog Wrote:  
(05-20-2017 08:42 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  The BIG rumor behind closed doors a year ago was the NC State job was Satt's for the taking until Doeren beat UNCheat.

The Cincinnati thing was bigger than people realize as well.

But yeah, this too.

Yes it was...

My take on this is that this is a win for both parties. I do think it helps Satt and makes it easier to stay, and it protects the school and makes stepping up for the next coach easier with Satterfield's buyout money should he decide to leave early. My gut tells me that he will be our coach for at least 3-5 more years. Satt just made AppState an even more attractive position for the next coach should he decide to leave, and honestly for that I thank him.

I'm betting the buyout increased signficantly. Another way for Scott to help out his alma mater! 03-yes
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any word yet on the buyout?
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(05-19-2017 03:08 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Lot of projection in this thread. I know the rest of the conference just muttered "dammit" to themselves.

All that matters is that he is here next year. It is year to year with any above average G5 coach especially ones not making 1M+ a year. Many G5's could still get him if they wanted.
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http://www.appstatesports.com/fls/21500/...M_ID=21500

$425,000 per year for the remainder of his contract. Previously, it went up 25k a year through 2020 to $525,000. So he's actually taking a base pay cut.

$600/month car allowance.

Monthly retention bonus of $12,500 (155k extra a year), which goes up to above $15,000 by 2021. Was around 10k previously.

Big thing is that he's pretty much now the centerpiece of the Yosef Club. Over $100,000 a year (and goes up each succesive year to $220,000 in 2021) in an "anual fund payment" in which he's contracted for at minimum 25 Yosef Club apperances a year.

Buyout is basically the same as before. The cost of that current year of his base salary.
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Wow. Surprises me. I thought your AD would take a page from our playbook and jack the first couple of years of buyout up through the roof. That said, we're doing that on new hires and this is a contract extension. Maybe that made a difference.
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Unless you are paying a guy crazy money I'm not big on monkeying with the buyouts after the first few years.

It is critical to get some years of recruiting consistency, after that if the coach finds a deal he likes, more power to him, just need protection from the recruiting harm of fast turnover.
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