Jack Swarbrick denied the rumors that ND was in discussion to join the ACC fully....

From the Orlando Sentinel

(05-17-2017 10:30 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Jack Swarbrick denied the rumors that ND was in discussion to join the ACC fully....

From the Orlando Sentinel

They all do until they don't.

I understand Swarbrick denying the rumors, but timing wise it makes sense that they talked about it while the two were planning their schedules through 2037 which was announced last week.


https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday....101551448/

Yeah, I don't really buy the denial. They wouldn't admit to anything unless it was official.

It really does not matter.
Notre Dame is obligated to their current role for at least 20 years. So the base line of our relationship is known. At this point it is at a minimum. Since Notre Dame is under the same GOR as the rest of the conference, they aren't going anywhere. So our relationship can only get better, it can't diminish.
It's the old "bird in the hand"philosophy. Get what you can and secure it, and wait for the rest, but it did allow us to create a foundation from which to move forward (and obviously it was good enough for ESPN, which in the long run is the only thing that matters).

(05-18-2017 04:47 AM)XLance Wrote:  It really does not matter.
Notre Dame is obligated to their current role for at least 20 years. So the base line of our relationship is known. At this point it is at a minimum. Since Notre Dame is under the same GOR as the rest of the conference, they aren't going anywhere. So our relationship can only get better, it can't diminish.
It's the old "bird in the hand"philosophy. Get what you can and secure it, and wait for the rest, but it did allow us to create a foundation from which to move forward (and obviously it was good enough for ESPN, which in the long run is the only thing that matters).

Also noteworthy is that ND's ACC membership (along with the 5 games/year) is continual and does not need to be renewed. The GOR (which is renewed every so often) applies to them just like everyone else.

(05-18-2017 05:25 AM)ren.hoek Wrote:  

(05-18-2017 04:47 AM)XLance Wrote:  It really does not matter.
Notre Dame is obligated to their current role for at least 20 years. So the base line of our relationship is known. At this point it is at a minimum. Since Notre Dame is under the same GOR as the rest of the conference, they aren't going anywhere. So our relationship can only get better, it can't diminish.
It's the old "bird in the hand"philosophy. Get what you can and secure it, and wait for the rest, but it did allow us to create a foundation from which to move forward (and obviously it was good enough for ESPN, which in the long run is the only thing that matters).

Also noteworthy is that ND's ACC membership (along with the 5 games/year) is continual and does not need to be renewed. The GOR (which is renewed every so often) applies to them just like everyone else.

I don't think anyone on this board expects them to leave the ACC. I believe the commits here are that none of believe that they will not join in full and that part of the relationship will not be admitted until it is official.

Since it has been documented that Notre Dame would have made more revenue as an ACC member than they did as an independent I believe those independent days are much closer than they were.

It also appears to me that more is in the works in the Big 12 right now than waiting upon the end of the GOR. ESPN helped the SEC expand a few of years prior to the SECN. I'd say we were looking at a similar timeline now with regards to the ACC. I expect ACC additions within 1 to 2 years. Having the new markets, especially should at least one added school carry cachet and a sizable market would be crucial to gaining the kind of carriage you need to gain carriage and would bring the kind of free publicity along with the addition that helps sell subscriptions.

I have some ideas, but we'll see.

(05-18-2017 10:45 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-18-2017 05:25 AM)ren.hoek Wrote:  

(05-18-2017 04:47 AM)XLance Wrote:  It really does not matter.
Notre Dame is obligated to their current role for at least 20 years. So the base line of our relationship is known. At this point it is at a minimum. Since Notre Dame is under the same GOR as the rest of the conference, they aren't going anywhere. So our relationship can only get better, it can't diminish.
It's the old "bird in the hand"philosophy. Get what you can and secure it, and wait for the rest, but it did allow us to create a foundation from which to move forward (and obviously it was good enough for ESPN, which in the long run is the only thing that matters).

Also noteworthy is that ND's ACC membership (along with the 5 games/year) is continual and does not need to be renewed. The GOR (which is renewed every so often) applies to them just like everyone else.

I don't think anyone on this board expects them to leave the ACC. I believe the commits here are that none of believe that they will not join in full and that part of the relationship will not be admitted until it is official.

Since it has been documented that Notre Dame would have made more revenue as an ACC member than they did as an independent I believe those independent days are much closer than they were.

It also appears to me that more is in the works in the Big 12 right now than waiting upon the end of the GOR. ESPN helped the SEC expand a few of years prior to the SECN. I'd say we were looking at a similar timeline now with regards to the ACC. I expect ACC additions within 1 to 2 years. Having the new markets, especially should at least one added school carry cachet and a sizable market would be crucial to gaining the kind of carriage you need to gain carriage and would bring the kind of free publicity along with the addition that helps sell subscriptions.

I have some ideas, but we'll see.

If the PAC is not ready to sell, Texas could have a "temporary" deal in the ACC as a partial.
West Virginia would be out for the ACC (no new market), but perfect for the SEC and great for ESPN to seal off their territories from the B1G. WVU also provides relevance in Kentucky football, gives the SEC options for a "northern" pod, and would boost Tennessee (which is badly needed).
I'm still betting on Cincinnati for the ACC and I would not sleep on Tulane (only if Tejas comes aboard). 16 +2 partials, 15 +2 partials, 17 +1 partial, it won't matter because it would work in any combination.
Just the threat of Texas not being available for the PAC should drive them to the bargaining table.....they really have no alternative, because if the PAC were to take Oklahoma and Kansas and a few friends, it only leaves the B1G Iowa State and UConn (that certainly isn't Carolina and Duke that the B1G had hoped for).
FOX becomes the loser.