(05-16-2017 07:11 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 12:33 PM)covingtontiger Wrote:  Gripe, gripe, gripe. Where have y'all been over the last 30 years?

Historically, our Tigers do play a weak non-conference schedule. We play very few marquee games against top teams in Nov. & Dec. The best matchups in our early schedule have usually occurred in pre-season tournaments.

I still plan to buy my season tickets. I assume from all the griping that the wife and I will be the only ones attending.

Can y'all just let up on the negativity for a while? I am fairy sick of most of the mess on here.

Here's some home OOC schedule history for you just to refresh your memory -

2006 - Cincy, MTSU, OM (with UTK, UK, OK, GA Tech away) among others
2007 - Georgetown, Arizona, Pepperdine, Gonzaga, UTK (UConn, MTSU, Cincy & USC away)
2008 - UMass, Syracuse, Drexel, Cincy, (Gonzaga, UTK, Xavier, Georgetown away)

And even some of the weaker schools I didn't mention are better than what we see routinely now.

And then the JP years of weaker OOC schedules progressively every year thereafter.

I've been a season ticket holder through the good & bad, FB & BB. But I can tell you, I'd much rather see some strong teams come in than to play weak teams, win or lose. And apparently a lot of others would prefer that too given the empty houses I've seen in recent years. I'm just not driving from Atlanta to see Holy Innocence or USC Upstate or the like........& that seems the logic of those in Memphis too.

isn't that part of why we left CUSA...so we don't have to schedule like that OOC?

I mean, CUSA played a 16 game schedule so we could play 4 OOC road games every year...we can't do that anymore with an 18 game conference schedule.

(05-16-2017 09:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 07:11 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 12:33 PM)covingtontiger Wrote:  Gripe, gripe, gripe. Where have y'all been over the last 30 years?

Historically, our Tigers do play a weak non-conference schedule. We play very few marquee games against top teams in Nov. & Dec. The best matchups in our early schedule have usually occurred in pre-season tournaments.

I still plan to buy my season tickets. I assume from all the griping that the wife and I will be the only ones attending.

Can y'all just let up on the negativity for a while? I am fairy sick of most of the mess on here.

Here's some home OOC schedule history for you just to refresh your memory -

2006 - Cincy, MTSU, OM (with UTK, UK, OK, GA Tech away) among others
2007 - Georgetown, Arizona, Pepperdine, Gonzaga, UTK (UConn, MTSU, Cincy & USC away)
2008 - UMass, Syracuse, Drexel, Cincy, (Gonzaga, UTK, Xavier, Georgetown away)

And even some of the weaker schools I didn't mention are better than what we see routinely now.

And then the JP years of weaker OOC schedules progressively every year thereafter.

I've been a season ticket holder through the good & bad, FB & BB. But I can tell you, I'd much rather see some strong teams come in than to play weak teams, win or lose. And apparently a lot of others would prefer that too given the empty houses I've seen in recent years. I'm just not driving from Atlanta to see Holy Innocence or USC Upstate or the like........& that seems the logic of those in Memphis too.

isn't that part of why we left CUSA...so we don't have to schedule like that OOC?

I mean, CUSA played a 16 game schedule so we could play 4 OOC road games every year...we can't do that anymore with an 18 game conference schedule.

I don't think that was a single issue in why we left CUSA. More money was top of the list, right next to prestige.

The band even learned a new song.

Moving on up!

(05-16-2017 09:47 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 09:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 07:11 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 12:33 PM)covingtontiger Wrote:  Gripe, gripe, gripe. Where have y'all been over the last 30 years?

Historically, our Tigers do play a weak non-conference schedule. We play very few marquee games against top teams in Nov. & Dec. The best matchups in our early schedule have usually occurred in pre-season tournaments.

I still plan to buy my season tickets. I assume from all the griping that the wife and I will be the only ones attending.

Can y'all just let up on the negativity for a while? I am fairy sick of most of the mess on here.

Here's some home OOC schedule history for you just to refresh your memory -

2006 - Cincy, MTSU, OM (with UTK, UK, OK, GA Tech away) among others
2007 - Georgetown, Arizona, Pepperdine, Gonzaga, UTK (UConn, MTSU, Cincy & USC away)
2008 - UMass, Syracuse, Drexel, Cincy, (Gonzaga, UTK, Xavier, Georgetown away)

And even some of the weaker schools I didn't mention are better than what we see routinely now.

And then the JP years of weaker OOC schedules progressively every year thereafter.

I've been a season ticket holder through the good & bad, FB & BB. But I can tell you, I'd much rather see some strong teams come in than to play weak teams, win or lose. And apparently a lot of others would prefer that too given the empty houses I've seen in recent years. I'm just not driving from Atlanta to see Holy Innocence or USC Upstate or the like........& that seems the logic of those in Memphis too.

isn't that part of why we left CUSA...so we don't have to schedule like that OOC?

I mean, CUSA played a 16 game schedule so we could play 4 OOC road games every year...we can't do that anymore with an 18 game conference schedule.

I don't think that was a single issue in why we left CUSA. More money was top of the list, right next to prestige.

the teams with prestige play an OOC like Memphis does now...

(05-16-2017 10:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 09:47 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 09:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 07:11 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 12:33 PM)covingtontiger Wrote:  Gripe, gripe, gripe. Where have y'all been over the last 30 years?

Historically, our Tigers do play a weak non-conference schedule. We play very few marquee games against top teams in Nov. & Dec. The best matchups in our early schedule have usually occurred in pre-season tournaments.

I still plan to buy my season tickets. I assume from all the griping that the wife and I will be the only ones attending.

Can y'all just let up on the negativity for a while? I am fairy sick of most of the mess on here.

Here's some home OOC schedule history for you just to refresh your memory -

2006 - Cincy, MTSU, OM (with UTK, UK, OK, GA Tech away) among others
2007 - Georgetown, Arizona, Pepperdine, Gonzaga, UTK (UConn, MTSU, Cincy & USC away)
2008 - UMass, Syracuse, Drexel, Cincy, (Gonzaga, UTK, Xavier, Georgetown away)

And even some of the weaker schools I didn't mention are better than what we see routinely now.

And then the JP years of weaker OOC schedules progressively every year thereafter.

I've been a season ticket holder through the good & bad, FB & BB. But I can tell you, I'd much rather see some strong teams come in than to play weak teams, win or lose. And apparently a lot of others would prefer that too given the empty houses I've seen in recent years. I'm just not driving from Atlanta to see Holy Innocence or USC Upstate or the like........& that seems the logic of those in Memphis too.

isn't that part of why we left CUSA...so we don't have to schedule like that OOC?

I mean, CUSA played a 16 game schedule so we could play 4 OOC road games every year...we can't do that anymore with an 18 game conference schedule.

I don't think that was a single issue in why we left CUSA. More money was top of the list, right next to prestige.

the teams with prestige play an OOC like Memphis does now...

Yep, but of course in our case we didn't get the prestige we planned on when the Big East fell apart.

Here's the updated version of S'luki's work with a prediction for their RPIs:

Little Rock: Loses 6 of top 7 scorers (78% of scoring).
Likely RPI 230+ team

New Orleans: loses four of top five scorers (65% of scoring)
Likely at 200+ RPI team

NKU: Solid. Returns all but one rotation player from eight deep rotation.
Likely a top 70 RPI team.

UAB: Lose 6 of 9 rotation players. Return 47% scoring. Two leading scorers return. Three nice parts return but a lot to fill in.
Probably 180+ RPI team

Mercer: return top 7 scorers.
Likely Top 150 RPI team

Albany: Return top 5 players including top 2 scorers (averaged 18 and 16 ppg last year).
About 120 RPI team

Bryant: Ouch. Lose top scorer (20.3 ppg) and third leading scorer (10.3 ppg) to transfer. Were also top two rebounders.
Close to 300 RPI team

Siena: Probably see and an angry Jimmy Patsos. Lose four of top five scorers. (72% of scoring and 67% of rebounding).
Probably 200+ RPI team

Loyola (MD): Only lose one player. Tubby's son should be ready to go.
Likely a 170+ RPI team

Samford: Returns top 6 players. Adds decent transfer.
Likely top 100-125 RPI team

Looks like Northern Kentucky should be a really solid team--probably the third best OOC team (behind Bama and Louisville) Memphis plays this year.

Looks like Northern Kentucky should be a really solid team--probably the third best OOC team (behind Bama and Louisville) Memphis plays this year.

Samford and Albany could be the kind of games that are "must win" in that they may push close to being 100 rpi teams but Memphis can't afford a slip up vs. them.

The rest should be cakewalks, with Siena, Bryan, and UNO being really bad. UAB has a lot of holes to fill.


All but three of these including the Bama. UL, and LSU games. 10-3 OOC.

(05-16-2017 09:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 07:11 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 12:33 PM)covingtontiger Wrote:  Gripe, gripe, gripe. Where have y'all been over the last 30 years?

Historically, our Tigers do play a weak non-conference schedule. We play very few marquee games against top teams in Nov. & Dec. The best matchups in our early schedule have usually occurred in pre-season tournaments.

I still plan to buy my season tickets. I assume from all the griping that the wife and I will be the only ones attending.

Can y'all just let up on the negativity for a while? I am fairy sick of most of the mess on here.

Here's some home OOC schedule history for you just to refresh your memory -

2006 - Cincy, MTSU, OM (with UTK, UK, OK, GA Tech away) among others
2007 - Georgetown, Arizona, Pepperdine, Gonzaga, UTK (UConn, MTSU, Cincy & USC away)
2008 - UMass, Syracuse, Drexel, Cincy, (Gonzaga, UTK, Xavier, Georgetown away)

And even some of the weaker schools I didn't mention are better than what we see routinely now.

And then the JP years of weaker OOC schedules progressively every year thereafter.

I've been a season ticket holder through the good & bad, FB & BB. But I can tell you, I'd much rather see some strong teams come in than to play weak teams, win or lose. And apparently a lot of others would prefer that too given the empty houses I've seen in recent years. I'm just not driving from Atlanta to see Holy Innocence or USC Upstate or the like........& that seems the logic of those in Memphis too.

isn't that part of why we left CUSA...so we don't have to schedule like that OOC?

I mean, CUSA played a 16 game schedule so we could play 4 OOC road games every year...we can't do that anymore with an 18 game conference schedule.

Ok, but we still play some conference cupcakes - ECU, Tulane, USF come mind. And don't forget, the AAC has been the perennial 7th strongest MBB conference - not appreciably better than then-CUSA (although I believe it much better), but still a 1/2 bid league (WSU a good addition). And the primary need to play a better level of HOME OOC games is to provide for more ticket-buying fan interest in the program, i.e., get people attending games - not attempt to mimic the scheduling methods of the stronger conferences. The admin, the coach, media & some of the fan base can come up with all sorts of technical reasons why it is not in the program's interest to schedule schools with high rpi & closer to marquee status among the HOME OOC schedule. But those reasons won't include fan interest & financial considerations. I will acknowledge the coming year's schedule as improved over the previous year schedule but I am confident (unfortunately) that the ticket buying public sees little distinction between N KY, Mercer, Albany, Bryant, Loyola (MD) & Siena than in prior years where Holy Innocence, UTRGV, Savannah St, Nichols St, SEMO etc were the unknown cupcakes.

And BTW, Memphis & the AAC are not in a position to play a schedule like that of UK, ACC, B1G, B12 or even the BE because the AAC is not recognized as a strong MBB conference. No doubt, the 2017-18 Tiger team will likely need a diet of cupcakes early to come together as a team but the program is bleeding red-ink & needs ticket-buying fans. And personally, I'd love to have motivation to drive from Atlanta another 5-6 times each fall to watch the Tigers play.

It's better than last year on paper

(05-17-2017 08:46 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 09:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 07:11 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 12:33 PM)covingtontiger Wrote:  Gripe, gripe, gripe. Where have y'all been over the last 30 years?

Historically, our Tigers do play a weak non-conference schedule. We play very few marquee games against top teams in Nov. & Dec. The best matchups in our early schedule have usually occurred in pre-season tournaments.

I still plan to buy my season tickets. I assume from all the griping that the wife and I will be the only ones attending.

Can y'all just let up on the negativity for a while? I am fairy sick of most of the mess on here.

Here's some home OOC schedule history for you just to refresh your memory -

2006 - Cincy, MTSU, OM (with UTK, UK, OK, GA Tech away) among others
2007 - Georgetown, Arizona, Pepperdine, Gonzaga, UTK (UConn, MTSU, Cincy & USC away)
2008 - UMass, Syracuse, Drexel, Cincy, (Gonzaga, UTK, Xavier, Georgetown away)

And even some of the weaker schools I didn't mention are better than what we see routinely now.

And then the JP years of weaker OOC schedules progressively every year thereafter.

I've been a season ticket holder through the good & bad, FB & BB. But I can tell you, I'd much rather see some strong teams come in than to play weak teams, win or lose. And apparently a lot of others would prefer that too given the empty houses I've seen in recent years. I'm just not driving from Atlanta to see Holy Innocence or USC Upstate or the like........& that seems the logic of those in Memphis too.

isn't that part of why we left CUSA...so we don't have to schedule like that OOC?

I mean, CUSA played a 16 game schedule so we could play 4 OOC road games every year...we can't do that anymore with an 18 game conference schedule.

Ok, but we still play some conference cupcakes - ECU, Tulane, USF come mind. And don't forget, the AAC has been the perennial 7th strongest MBB conference - not appreciably better than then-CUSA (although I believe it much better), but still a 1/2 bid league (WSU a good addition). And the primary need to play a better level of HOME OOC games is to provide for more ticket-buying fan interest in the program, i.e., get people attending games - not attempt to mimic the scheduling methods of the stronger conferences. The admin, the coach, media & some of the fan base can come up with all sorts of technical reasons why it is not in the program's interest to schedule schools with high rpi & closer to marquee status among the HOME OOC schedule. But those reasons won't include fan interest & financial considerations. I will acknowledge the coming year's schedule as improved over the previous year schedule but I am confident (unfortunately) that the ticket buying public sees little distinction between N KY, Mercer, Albany, Bryant, Loyola (MD) & Siena than in prior years where Holy Innocence, UTRGV, Savannah St, Nichols St, SEMO etc were the unknown cupcakes.

And BTW, Memphis & the AAC are not in a position to play a schedule like that of UK, ACC, B1G, B12 or even the BE because the AAC is not recognized as a strong MBB conference. No doubt, the 2017-18 Tiger team will likely need a diet of cupcakes early to come together as a team but the program is bleeding red-ink & needs ticket-buying fans. And personally, I'd love to have motivation to drive from Atlanta another 5-6 times each fall to watch the Tigers play.

winning brings out the fans...not the opponent...simple as that. (I don't want 'fans' who come to see whoever we're playing)

as for the rest, the difference between CUSA and the AAC is simply the difference between a 1 bid conference and a potential 4 bid conference.

you can come up with whatever personal reasons you want to be a fair weather fan...that's a personal problem...not the UofMs problem...we'll just move on without you.

(05-17-2017 11:03 AM)fsquid Wrote:  It's better than last year on paper

it's better in reality as well.

(05-17-2017 11:17 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 08:46 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 09:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 07:11 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 12:33 PM)covingtontiger Wrote:  Gripe, gripe, gripe. Where have y'all been over the last 30 years?

Historically, our Tigers do play a weak non-conference schedule. We play very few marquee games against top teams in Nov. & Dec. The best matchups in our early schedule have usually occurred in pre-season tournaments.

I still plan to buy my season tickets. I assume from all the griping that the wife and I will be the only ones attending.

Can y'all just let up on the negativity for a while? I am fairy sick of most of the mess on here.

Here's some home OOC schedule history for you just to refresh your memory -

2006 - Cincy, MTSU, OM (with UTK, UK, OK, GA Tech away) among others
2007 - Georgetown, Arizona, Pepperdine, Gonzaga, UTK (UConn, MTSU, Cincy & USC away)
2008 - UMass, Syracuse, Drexel, Cincy, (Gonzaga, UTK, Xavier, Georgetown away)

And even some of the weaker schools I didn't mention are better than what we see routinely now.

And then the JP years of weaker OOC schedules progressively every year thereafter.

I've been a season ticket holder through the good & bad, FB & BB. But I can tell you, I'd much rather see some strong teams come in than to play weak teams, win or lose. And apparently a lot of others would prefer that too given the empty houses I've seen in recent years. I'm just not driving from Atlanta to see Holy Innocence or USC Upstate or the like........& that seems the logic of those in Memphis too.

isn't that part of why we left CUSA...so we don't have to schedule like that OOC?

I mean, CUSA played a 16 game schedule so we could play 4 OOC road games every year...we can't do that anymore with an 18 game conference schedule.

Ok, but we still play some conference cupcakes - ECU, Tulane, USF come mind. And don't forget, the AAC has been the perennial 7th strongest MBB conference - not appreciably better than then-CUSA (although I believe it much better), but still a 1/2 bid league (WSU a good addition). And the primary need to play a better level of HOME OOC games is to provide for more ticket-buying fan interest in the program, i.e., get people attending games - not attempt to mimic the scheduling methods of the stronger conferences. The admin, the coach, media & some of the fan base can come up with all sorts of technical reasons why it is not in the program's interest to schedule schools with high rpi & closer to marquee status among the HOME OOC schedule. But those reasons won't include fan interest & financial considerations. I will acknowledge the coming year's schedule as improved over the previous year schedule but I am confident (unfortunately) that the ticket buying public sees little distinction between N KY, Mercer, Albany, Bryant, Loyola (MD) & Siena than in prior years where Holy Innocence, UTRGV, Savannah St, Nichols St, SEMO etc were the unknown cupcakes.

And BTW, Memphis & the AAC are not in a position to play a schedule like that of UK, ACC, B1G, B12 or even the BE because the AAC is not recognized as a strong MBB conference. No doubt, the 2017-18 Tiger team will likely need a diet of cupcakes early to come together as a team but the program is bleeding red-ink & needs ticket-buying fans. And personally, I'd love to have motivation to drive from Atlanta another 5-6 times each fall to watch the Tigers play.

winning brings out the fans...not the opponent...simple as that. (I don't want 'fans' who come to see whoever we're playing)

as for the rest, the difference between CUSA and the AAC is simply the difference between a 1 bid conference and a potential 4 bid conference.

you can come up with whatever personal reasons you want to be a fair weather fan...that's a personal problem...not the UofMs problem...we'll just move on without you.

I hardly believe someone who buys 4 season tickets annually to MBB & FB, maintains a Super Tiger status & lives 6 hrs drive from the games to be a "fair-weather" fan. I attend approx 15-18 Memphis games per season between MBB & FB. Many of the complainers on this forum don't buy tickets at all while insisting they're fans. So yeah, go for it - "move on without me" & a lot of others who used to attend if you are naive enough to think who Memphis plays at home has no bearing on attendance - especially when the product has not been particularly strong in MBB of late. But I'm thinking our university DOES want fans like me - as that is what they tell me & others like me on a regular basis. And I think they would love to have more "of us".

if you come to see the team Memphis is playing...you're a fair weather fan in my opinion...you can take it or leave it, I care not.

(05-17-2017 08:46 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 09:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 07:11 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 12:33 PM)covingtontiger Wrote:  Gripe, gripe, gripe. Where have y'all been over the last 30 years?

Historically, our Tigers do play a weak non-conference schedule. We play very few marquee games against top teams in Nov. & Dec. The best matchups in our early schedule have usually occurred in pre-season tournaments.

I still plan to buy my season tickets. I assume from all the griping that the wife and I will be the only ones attending.

Can y'all just let up on the negativity for a while? I am fairy sick of most of the mess on here.

Here's some home OOC schedule history for you just to refresh your memory -

2006 - Cincy, MTSU, OM (with UTK, UK, OK, GA Tech away) among others
2007 - Georgetown, Arizona, Pepperdine, Gonzaga, UTK (UConn, MTSU, Cincy & USC away)
2008 - UMass, Syracuse, Drexel, Cincy, (Gonzaga, UTK, Xavier, Georgetown away)

And even some of the weaker schools I didn't mention are better than what we see routinely now.

And then the JP years of weaker OOC schedules progressively every year thereafter.

I've been a season ticket holder through the good & bad, FB & BB. But I can tell you, I'd much rather see some strong teams come in than to play weak teams, win or lose. And apparently a lot of others would prefer that too given the empty houses I've seen in recent years. I'm just not driving from Atlanta to see Holy Innocence or USC Upstate or the like........& that seems the logic of those in Memphis too.

isn't that part of why we left CUSA...so we don't have to schedule like that OOC?

I mean, CUSA played a 16 game schedule so we could play 4 OOC road games every year...we can't do that anymore with an 18 game conference schedule.

Ok, but we still play some conference cupcakes - ECU, Tulane, USF come mind. And don't forget, the AAC has been the perennial 7th strongest MBB conference - not appreciably better than then-CUSA (although I believe it much better), but still a 1/2 bid league (WSU a good addition). And the primary need to play a better level of HOME OOC games is to provide for more ticket-buying fan interest in the program, i.e., get people attending games - not attempt to mimic the scheduling methods of the stronger conferences. The admin, the coach, media & some of the fan base can come up with all sorts of technical reasons why it is not in the program's interest to schedule schools with high rpi & closer to marquee status among the HOME OOC schedule. But those reasons won't include fan interest & financial considerations. I will acknowledge the coming year's schedule as improved over the previous year schedule but I am confident (unfortunately) that the ticket buying public sees little distinction between N KY, Mercer, Albany, Bryant, Loyola (MD) & Siena than in prior years where Holy Innocence, UTRGV, Savannah St, Nichols St, SEMO etc were the unknown cupcakes.

And BTW, Memphis & the AAC are not in a position to play a schedule like that of UK, ACC, B1G, B12 or even the BE because the AAC is not recognized as a strong MBB conference. No doubt, the 2017-18 Tiger team will likely need a diet of cupcakes early to come together as a team but the program is bleeding red-ink & needs ticket-buying fans. And personally, I'd love to have motivation to drive from Atlanta another 5-6 times each fall to watch the Tigers play.

Quote:The admin, the coach, media & some of the fan base can come up with all sorts of technical reasons why it is not in the program's interest to schedule schools with high rpi & closer to marquee status among the HOME OOC schedule.

You have repeated this statement over the years and it has no truth to it. Do you think we would turn down a home and home with Duke, UNC, Kansas, UCLA or Michigan State?

We are only occasionally able to get a couple of good teams to agree to home and homes in years when we are very good. Otherwise, nobody wants to play us. Gonzaga is a perfect example. When both schools were good we played each other. When they slipped a bit our fans grumbled about it and when we slipped they dropped us.

If you hadn't been repeating the same thing over and over, I would ask you if you really think the admin and coaching staff actively turn down good opponents or if you are joking. Sadly, I know that you aren't.

It appears that the schedule isn't set in stone. There's a chance Arkansas is put on the schedule in place of another.

We are supposedly working on a home and home with Arkansas starting next season

if we start a series with Arkansas, I hope it starts in 2018-19 because they will be really good next season and we won't...

take our team, give em a year of experience, plus add Alex Lomax...and THEN bring on UPigg.

Maybe it won't start until 2018-19. The Arkansas series that is. But who knows.

(05-17-2017 11:34 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 08:46 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 09:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 07:11 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 12:33 PM)covingtontiger Wrote:  Gripe, gripe, gripe. Where have y'all been over the last 30 years?

Historically, our Tigers do play a weak non-conference schedule. We play very few marquee games against top teams in Nov. & Dec. The best matchups in our early schedule have usually occurred in pre-season tournaments.

I still plan to buy my season tickets. I assume from all the griping that the wife and I will be the only ones attending.

Can y'all just let up on the negativity for a while? I am fairy sick of most of the mess on here.

Here's some home OOC schedule history for you just to refresh your memory -

2006 - Cincy, MTSU, OM (with UTK, UK, OK, GA Tech away) among others
2007 - Georgetown, Arizona, Pepperdine, Gonzaga, UTK (UConn, MTSU, Cincy & USC away)
2008 - UMass, Syracuse, Drexel, Cincy, (Gonzaga, UTK, Xavier, Georgetown away)

And even some of the weaker schools I didn't mention are better than what we see routinely now.

And then the JP years of weaker OOC schedules progressively every year thereafter.

I've been a season ticket holder through the good & bad, FB & BB. But I can tell you, I'd much rather see some strong teams come in than to play weak teams, win or lose. And apparently a lot of others would prefer that too given the empty houses I've seen in recent years. I'm just not driving from Atlanta to see Holy Innocence or USC Upstate or the like........& that seems the logic of those in Memphis too.

isn't that part of why we left CUSA...so we don't have to schedule like that OOC?

I mean, CUSA played a 16 game schedule so we could play 4 OOC road games every year...we can't do that anymore with an 18 game conference schedule.

Ok, but we still play some conference cupcakes - ECU, Tulane, USF come mind. And don't forget, the AAC has been the perennial 7th strongest MBB conference - not appreciably better than then-CUSA (although I believe it much better), but still a 1/2 bid league (WSU a good addition). And the primary need to play a better level of HOME OOC games is to provide for more ticket-buying fan interest in the program, i.e., get people attending games - not attempt to mimic the scheduling methods of the stronger conferences. The admin, the coach, media & some of the fan base can come up with all sorts of technical reasons why it is not in the program's interest to schedule schools with high rpi & closer to marquee status among the HOME OOC schedule. But those reasons won't include fan interest & financial considerations. I will acknowledge the coming year's schedule as improved over the previous year schedule but I am confident (unfortunately) that the ticket buying public sees little distinction between N KY, Mercer, Albany, Bryant, Loyola (MD) & Siena than in prior years where Holy Innocence, UTRGV, Savannah St, Nichols St, SEMO etc were the unknown cupcakes.

And BTW, Memphis & the AAC are not in a position to play a schedule like that of UK, ACC, B1G, B12 or even the BE because the AAC is not recognized as a strong MBB conference. No doubt, the 2017-18 Tiger team will likely need a diet of cupcakes early to come together as a team but the program is bleeding red-ink & needs ticket-buying fans. And personally, I'd love to have motivation to drive from Atlanta another 5-6 times each fall to watch the Tigers play.

Quote:The admin, the coach, media & some of the fan base can come up with all sorts of technical reasons why it is not in the program's interest to schedule schools with high rpi & closer to marquee status among the HOME OOC schedule.

You have repeated this statement over the years and it has no truth to it. Do you think we would turn down a home and home with Duke, UNC, Kansas, UCLA or Michigan State?

We are only occasionally able to get a couple of good teams to agree to home and homes in years when we are very good. Otherwise, nobody wants to play us. Gonzaga is a perfect example. When both schools were good we played each other. When they slipped a bit our fans grumbled about it and when we slipped they dropped us.

If you hadn't been repeating the same thing over and over, I would ask you if you really think the admin and coaching staff actively turn down good opponents or if you are joking. Sadly, I know that you aren't.

Doesn't have anything to do with his argument that you should come to watch your team not the opponent. However, that's not reality. Most people come to watch their team beat named teams.

(05-17-2017 11:45 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  if we start a series with Arkansas, I hope it starts in 2018-19 because they will be really good next season and we won't...

take our team, give em a year of experience, plus add Alex Lomax...and THEN bring on UPigg.

I don't know how good we can or will be next season. I've got to see us play. But your thinking of us being good in 2018-19 I think will be right. My feeling is in 2018-19 we will have five seniors and Jamal Johnson, Nickleberry, and Enoch will be sophomores with a good freshman class. So I do like our chances of being good in 18-19!

(05-17-2017 11:58 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 11:45 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  if we start a series with Arkansas, I hope it starts in 2018-19 because they will be really good next season and we won't...

take our team, give em a year of experience, plus add Alex Lomax...and THEN bring on UPigg.

I don't know how good we can or will be next season. I've got to see us play. But your thinking of us being good in 2018-19 I think will be right. My feeling is in 2018-19 we will have five seniors and Jamal Johnson, Nickleberry, and Enoch will be sophomores with a good freshman class. So I do like our chances of being good in 18-19!

I mean to say they'll be like top-25 good this season...I think we could win 18-19 games, but I doubt we could hang with UPigg on the road.

and I'd hate to give em a ripe opportunity to come into FEF and get a W