(05-11-2017 10:58 AM)GopherTubby Wrote:  ...You guys have no idea what kind respect Tubby has from his peers.

There's NO question that Tubby is very well-liked by his peers.

What does that have to do with him being successful at his job? I can name you a dozen college coaches well liked by their peers who got fired because they don't do the job expected by the athletic departments who hire them.

(05-11-2017 10:58 AM)GopherTubby Wrote:  ...

This guy is a legend and this season will prove it with you all. By the way, the guy who fired him later got fired for sexual harassment. He was and is a scum bag. The best way to handle the situation at MN was to mimic what Purdue did with Keady.

He's not a legend. Nothing near. There are several coaches who have won ONLY one NCAA championship, and I can't think of one who is a legend.

He will NOT prove he's a legend to anyone at Memphis. I wish I was wrong for Memphis' sake. But I'm not.

No disrespect meant, but Tubby is simply a decent-to-good game coach who used to be willing to do what it took to recruit good players. But now, he no longer likes recruiting, and is incredibly stubborn when it comes down to doing what he wants vs. what someone else thinks. He makes mountains out of molehills--when confronted with the need to change. He will not change. If he was going to have changed, it would've been when he was still at Kentucky, and was told to hire some people he didn't want to be told to hire, AND that he couldn't hire one he wanted. Instead, he bolted for Minnesota, where he could continue to have more say over what he wanted.

And the man NEVER made it out of the first week of the NCAAs at MN. That does not legend status make.

Again, is he a nice guy personally? Yes, when people say he's a good guy, he agrees. But only if not pushed to do something he doesn't want to do--then he can become pretty oppositional.

(05-11-2017 10:58 AM)GopherTubby Wrote:  ...They could have brought a young coach like little Richy to work with Tubby before he would retire. Gophers won an NCAA game after a million years and then he fired Tubby?????

The only young Coach Tubby would've approved, would've been one of his sons. Tubby does not want to be told what to do or who he needs to hire. His history shows that when this happens, he stands his ground even more firmly, or bolts if he's losing control (AND IF there's a financial incentive, and less opposition, by bolting).

The only way Tubby leaves Memphis, is if the admin starts CONTROLLING who he hires/fires. Then, he'll probably walk away (after negotiating some buyout less than the won he'd get for being fired). Otherwise, he's at Memphis for as long as he's allowed (wants) to be; and will blame all but himself, and the people he picked as coaches, for bad performance.

(05-02-2017 04:53 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 04:22 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 04:07 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 03:58 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 03:49 PM)450bench Wrote:  Your perception is different than mine. I don't think Tubby took a dump on the program at all. You apparently do and that's fine. And how do you know how recruiting is going? Or has gone? You don't. And neither do I, which is why I've said let's see them play this year and then evaluate.
Of course it's a message board and I respect everyone's opinion. Doesn't mean I like or agree with them. The negativity, at this point in the guy's tenure as head coach, does shock me. It's been 1 year and he followed a guy who crushed the program.
My "ridiculous" comment was more aimed at the post I quoted talking about the term "mean spirited." That's mainly what I found to be ridiculous. Scroll up and read it if you so choose.

So you were not offended as a Tiger fan with the comments Tubby made over the weekend? NO, I WAS NOT. That makes no sense. He not only took a dump on it he went fake news while doing so. Maybe he can research how many McD AA we have signed in the last ten years since he clearly had no clue when he did the interview. THESE AREN'T THE PROSPEROUS TIMES OF PREVIOUS YEARS HERE. SURE, TRY TO GET THOSE GUYS BUT IF YOU DON'T THEN BUILD THE PROGRAM WITH GUYS WHO CAN PLAY, AND FIT IN WITH WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO.

As for recruiting, we do know how it is going. He struck out trying to fill the roster out last year and we have a roster full of Jucos this year. We have also offered some good players for 2018. So the first two classes are well below par by almost any standard and his third class is a bunch of offers at this moment. So yeah, we have an idea of how it is going. Not great. AGAIN, WE HAVE NO IDEA HOW GOOD THE PLAYERS ARE WE'VE SIGNED THIS YEAR. YOU AND OTHERS ARE ASSUMING THEY AREN'T GOOD. THAT IS A TOTAL ASSUMPTION BASED ON NOTHING. I HAVE SEEN DAVENPORT PLAY IN PERSON AND THE KID IS A GOOD ONE, IMO. BUT BASICALLY, NO, WE HAVE NO IDEA. AT ALL, ACTUALLY.

You did not answer the first question. You actually went into full Tubby mode with the non answer too which was an interesting twist.

I am glad you have faith in the guys that will be on the roster next year. Too bad you are in the minority. The crowds (or lack thereof) at FEF will prove that soon enough.

I answered the first question but in case you simply missed my response, your first question was "were you offended by Tubby's statements?" My answer was a simple one, which was "no I was not."

"Full Tubby mode" my azz, dude. Gimme a freakin break with your glass half empty BS.

One of the reasons I hope the team kills it next year is to hear the reaction from "know it all" people like you.

Honestly i agree with your assessment that people are unfairly roasting Tubby but, when people fall back on multiole experts opinions of our recruits and you dismiss them i do not think you are being fair.

Memphis will be hawt garbage until tubby leaves...put my mortgage on it.

I think we will be better than "hawt garbage". I think at some point Tubby will slip us into the NCAA and if we are lucky with a matchup we might make it to the 2nd game. At the same time, I am certain no one was looking to hire a 3mil a year coach at a program with our investment and amenities for that type of achievements.
I am also certain we could have paid a coach around 1 million a year to eventually slip us into the NCAA who would be much more willing to promote the university at the same time.

(05-11-2017 10:58 AM)GopherTubby Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 09:39 AM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 08:19 AM)GopherTubby Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 07:50 AM)jamgut Wrote:  Here's an interesting article from the Minnesota press at the end of Tubby's 4th year at Minnesota. The article is titled: " Uh, Kentucky: Y'all were right about Tubby".

While different from what we've heard, there's something about those excuses that sounds familiar.

http://www.startribune.com/uh-kentucky-y...116091704/

Tubby put Gophers on the map. After he left, this guy wrote even worse articles about little Richy. You should know by now that today's writers look for the hits on their articles not the content. In 2010, Gophers would have made it to the FF if it wasn't because of injuries and off-the-court issues. These distractions are facts not opinions. He started all over at TT and did succeed. He came here to get better players to make a huge noise before he retires. I have a feeling that if he knew what he was getting into, he would have never come here. I see a similarity between Memphis and UK where small group of fans have the loudest voice.
You'll see when Tigers beat Rick Pitino's team this year. Rick has had very little success against Tubby. His team was number one in the country when Gophers beat them. Unfortunately, after that our PG, Al Nolen injured his foot and it really took the season with him.
Go Tigers

Here’s another article from ESPN that is eerily similar to the one from the Startribune. IIRC I posted this link in another thread and it goes more in-depth plus also mirrors some UK articles.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...ney-ouster

As I said before I’m surprised so many apparently didn’t know about these things.

Izzo actually choked up when he was addressing this. You guys have no idea what kind respect Tubby has from his peers. In fact when Rick Pitino was questioned about his involvement in stripers' case, he immediately mentioned Tubby's name as a person who has worked with him and knows his well. This guy is a legend and this season will prove it with you all. By the way, the guy who fired him later got fired for sexual harassment. He was and is a scum bag. The best way to handle the situation at MN was to mimic what Purdue did with Keady. They could have brought a young coach like little Richy to work with Tubby before he would retire. Gophers won an NCAA game after a million years and then he fired Tubby?????

Steve Spurrier used to say, "If they like you it's cause they're beating you."

(05-14-2017 09:00 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 10:58 AM)GopherTubby Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 09:39 AM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 08:19 AM)GopherTubby Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 07:50 AM)jamgut Wrote:  Here's an interesting article from the Minnesota press at the end of Tubby's 4th year at Minnesota. The article is titled: " Uh, Kentucky: Y'all were right about Tubby".

While different from what we've heard, there's something about those excuses that sounds familiar.

http://www.startribune.com/uh-kentucky-y...116091704/

Tubby put Gophers on the map. After he left, this guy wrote even worse articles about little Richy. You should know by now that today's writers look for the hits on their articles not the content. In 2010, Gophers would have made it to the FF if it wasn't because of injuries and off-the-court issues. These distractions are facts not opinions. He started all over at TT and did succeed. He came here to get better players to make a huge noise before he retires. I have a feeling that if he knew what he was getting into, he would have never come here. I see a similarity between Memphis and UK where small group of fans have the loudest voice.
You'll see when Tigers beat Rick Pitino's team this year. Rick has had very little success against Tubby. His team was number one in the country when Gophers beat them. Unfortunately, after that our PG, Al Nolen injured his foot and it really took the season with him.
Go Tigers

Here’s another article from ESPN that is eerily similar to the one from the Startribune. IIRC I posted this link in another thread and it goes more in-depth plus also mirrors some UK articles.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...ney-ouster

As I said before I’m surprised so many apparently didn’t know about these things.

Izzo actually choked up when he was addressing this. You guys have no idea what kind respect Tubby has from his peers. In fact when Rick Pitino was questioned about his involvement in stripers' case, he immediately mentioned Tubby's name as a person who has worked with him and knows his well. This guy is a legend and this season will prove it with you all. By the way, the guy who fired him later got fired for sexual harassment. He was and is a scum bag. The best way to handle the situation at MN was to mimic what Purdue did with Keady. They could have brought a young coach like little Richy to work with Tubby before he would retire. Gophers won an NCAA game after a million years and then he fired Tubby?????

Steve Spurrier used to say, "If they like you it's cause they're beating you."

Welp...if I were a coach going after hot high ranking players, I'd have no worries about Tubby pulling 'em away. Plus I could recruit in his own territory.

The City of Memphis is being mined for her best basketball players and Tubby can only offer resignation.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sp...101066406/

(05-15-2017 08:47 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The City of Memphis is being mined for her best basketball players and Tubby can only offer resignation.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sp...101066406/

People think it's funny but it's really wet and runny.

According to some, Cuonzo has the #6 recruiting class after being on the job for 2 months.

(05-15-2017 01:43 PM)fsquid Wrote:  According to some, Cuonzo has the #6 recruiting class after being on the job for 2 months.

Yep. It can be done. It's not the basketball powerhouse that is Missouri, I can tell you that. Or the amazing coaching prowess of Cuonzo Martin. Just put together a plan and don't get caught. The whole stinking thing is corrupt to the top anyway. More power to him.