Yes, everyone saying ULM will drop to FCS doesn't understand we can't afford to drop to FCS. Not near as much money for money games or playoff money. Also, I think football is turning around under Viator and so does the Orlando Sentinel.

So basically, the variance in CFP revenue between the Belt and CUSA is approximately one payday game every 3 or 4 years. LOL!

(05-14-2017 09:58 AM)Arrowhead Wrote:  Yes, everyone saying ULM will drop to FCS doesn't understand we can't afford to drop to FCS. Not near as much money for money games or playoff money. Also, I think football is turning around under Viator and so does the Orlando Sentinel.

The problem is that ULM just doesn't spend on its FBS program. It also sometimes schedules badly. 2 payday games every year it seems. 5 home games this year, 5 home games next year too.

(05-12-2017 05:21 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(05-12-2017 05:12 PM)DoubletapWolf Wrote:  Posted by #1 Stunner (BYU Fan) on the MWC Board:

Total and (per school) - all numbers rounded up or down.

The per team distribution is a general average; some conferences have a participation algorithm that will change these numbers.

SEC - $71.67M ($5.12M)
BIG - $70.96M ($5.07M)
PAC 12 - $69.91M ($5.83M)
ACC - $69.21M ($4.94M)
Big 12 - $61.15M ($6.12M)

MAC - $21.52M ($1.79M)
AAC - $20.30M ($1.85M)
MWC - $18.71M ($1.5M)
Sun Belt - $17.12M ($1.43M)
C-USA - $13.93M ($1.00M)

Notre Dame - $2.92M

BYU - $310,469
Army - $310,469
UMass - $310,469

Each FCS conference received $270,410.

No wonder UMass can't get anything going. They are operating with $1.1 million less than other comparable programs.

Not really. As an independent, they can just play two money games and make up the difference. In 2016, UMASS played at Florida and collected $1.2 million and also played at South Carolina and got paid $1.5 million. So they are not operating with less money. Plus, as part of the contract with South Carolina, they scheduled a home-and-home in basketball with the Gamecocks.

(05-14-2017 07:46 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  

(05-12-2017 05:21 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(05-12-2017 05:12 PM)DoubletapWolf Wrote:  Posted by #1 Stunner (BYU Fan) on the MWC Board:

Total and (per school) - all numbers rounded up or down.

The per team distribution is a general average; some conferences have a participation algorithm that will change these numbers.

SEC - $71.67M ($5.12M)
BIG - $70.96M ($5.07M)
PAC 12 - $69.91M ($5.83M)
ACC - $69.21M ($4.94M)
Big 12 - $61.15M ($6.12M)

MAC - $21.52M ($1.79M)
AAC - $20.30M ($1.85M)
MWC - $18.71M ($1.5M)
Sun Belt - $17.12M ($1.43M)
C-USA - $13.93M ($1.00M)

Notre Dame - $2.92M

BYU - $310,469
Army - $310,469
UMass - $310,469

Each FCS conference received $270,410.

No wonder UMass can't get anything going. They are operating with $1.1 million less than other comparable programs.

Not really. As an independent, they can just play two money games and make up the difference. In 2016, UMASS played at Florida and collected $1.2 million and also played at South Carolina and got paid $1.5 million. So they are not operating with less money. Plus, as part of the contract with South Carolina, they scheduled a home-and-home in basketball with the Gamecocks.

Well - they're playing with that much less from the other teams in a conference who also have the option of playing two money games per year on top of the conference CFP payout. We're playing an SEC & B1G team this year plus the conference payout.

(05-12-2017 03:19 PM)TaxusExpress Wrote:  Please take note all you wanna move up FCS programs to the above 7 posts. Go away.

This is the reason you are not. And quit picking on ULM, circling like a bunch of buzzards. They aren't giving up the ghost in FBS unless forced to. It won't be any of your programs that will force anything like that.

All part of the P5 master plan. That coin has two sides. It serves as a deterrent for G5 conferences to invite more FCS to the FBS. Which they tried to set up as the only gateway to move "up". Thumbs up to Liberty for "trumping" that play!
For those still wanting cheap FCS games - it keeps some decent ones available.

It puts the kabash on forming any large G5 super conferences.

If the payout was simply per team - none of that agenda would be covered.
The G5 would be better able to invite the teams that they see fit and make up their conferences at their own discretion. Of course the current system might keep a CUSA from going to 16 teams and hurting a conference like the Sun Belt - but the last thing the P5s want is for any G5 to reload after such a thing with FCS teams.

Can we please just install a REAL playoff at this level that gives real "access" to teams from all conferences? The "playoff money" will only increase with such a move and college football will see more interest overall nation wide. There is more money to be made here and plenty to go around.

Formula for succes for all conferences and the survival of the sport:
12 team Playoff/ top 4 get a bye/ All 10 CC's + 2 at large

Even the payout per g5 team/ and probably include the Independents.

(05-15-2017 10:04 AM)The4thOption Wrote:  

(05-12-2017 03:19 PM)TaxusExpress Wrote:  Please take note all you wanna move up FCS programs to the above 7 posts. Go away.

This is the reason you are not. And quit picking on ULM, circling like a bunch of buzzards. They aren't giving up the ghost in FBS unless forced to. It won't be any of your programs that will force anything like that.

Can we please just install a REAL playoff at this level that gives real "access" to teams from all conferences?

Respectfully, NO!!! Then we've just become FCS Ultra, like beer and condoms. We'll be lobbed out the picture in the blink of an eye. That's exactly what the P5's want. They'd become the P4's, and the AAC would be the new G1 or G2.

(05-15-2017 10:15 AM)TaxusExpress Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 10:04 AM)The4thOption Wrote:  

(05-12-2017 03:19 PM)TaxusExpress Wrote:  Please take note all you wanna move up FCS programs to the above 7 posts. Go away.

This is the reason you are not. And quit picking on ULM, circling like a bunch of buzzards. They aren't giving up the ghost in FBS unless forced to. It won't be any of your programs that will force anything like that.

Can we please just install a REAL playoff at this level that gives real "access" to teams from all conferences?

Respectfully, NO!!! Then we've just become FCS Ultra, like beer and condoms. We'll be lobbed out the picture in the blink of an eye. That's exactly what the P5's want. They'd become the P4's, and the AAC would be the new G1 or G2.

I believe the 4thoption is referring to a playoff including all 10 FBS champions.

Maybe something like this:

All 10 Conference Champions get auto bids with two at-large selections

Top 4 teams seeded

eight non-seeded teams meet in four early bowl games (at least two weeks before New Years Day) as play in games to the play off

8 remaining teams meet in four New Years Bowls (Rose, Fiesta, Orange & Cotton)

4 remaining teams meet in a two semi final games at the higher seed's home field the next weekend.

Final two teams meet in a National Championship game a week after the semi-final

(05-15-2017 10:32 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 10:15 AM)TaxusExpress Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 10:04 AM)The4thOption Wrote:  

(05-12-2017 03:19 PM)TaxusExpress Wrote:  Please take note all you wanna move up FCS programs to the above 7 posts. Go away.

This is the reason you are not. And quit picking on ULM, circling like a bunch of buzzards. They aren't giving up the ghost in FBS unless forced to. It won't be any of your programs that will force anything like that.

Can we please just install a REAL playoff at this level that gives real "access" to teams from all conferences?

Respectfully, NO!!! Then we've just become FCS Ultra, like beer and condoms. We'll be lobbed out the picture in the blink of an eye. That's exactly what the P5's want. They'd become the P4's, and the AAC would be the new G1 or G2.

I believe the 4thoption is referring to a playoff including all 10 FBS champions.

Maybe something like this:

All 10 Conference Champions get auto bids with two at-large selections

Top 4 teams seeded

eight non-seeded teams meet in four early bowl games (at least two weeks before New Years Day) as play in games to the play off

8 remaining teams meet in four New Years Bowls (Rose, Fiesta, Orange & Cotton)

4 remaining teams meet in a two semi final games at the higher seed's home field the next weekend.

Final two teams meet in a National Championship game a week after the semi-final

Sorry if I misunderstood. There is no way the P-5s will ever agree. Look at the NCAA softball brackets just released. JMU, Cajuns and others got jacked over...and that is just in softball. No way the golden goose is turned loose in football.

something is wrong with these numbers they can't be right

did you include the extra money the aac gets for being P6?

(05-15-2017 11:48 AM)TaxusExpress Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 10:32 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 10:15 AM)TaxusExpress Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 10:04 AM)The4thOption Wrote:  

(05-12-2017 03:19 PM)TaxusExpress Wrote:  Please take note all you wanna move up FCS programs to the above 7 posts. Go away.

This is the reason you are not. And quit picking on ULM, circling like a bunch of buzzards. They aren't giving up the ghost in FBS unless forced to. It won't be any of your programs that will force anything like that.

Can we please just install a REAL playoff at this level that gives real "access" to teams from all conferences?

Respectfully, NO!!! Then we've just become FCS Ultra, like beer and condoms. We'll be lobbed out the picture in the blink of an eye. That's exactly what the P5's want. They'd become the P4's, and the AAC would be the new G1 or G2.

I believe the 4thoption is referring to a playoff including all 10 FBS champions.

Maybe something like this:

All 10 Conference Champions get auto bids with two at-large selections

Top 4 teams seeded

eight non-seeded teams meet in four early bowl games (at least two weeks before New Years Day) as play in games to the play off

8 remaining teams meet in four New Years Bowls (Rose, Fiesta, Orange & Cotton)

4 remaining teams meet in a two semi final games at the higher seed's home field the next weekend.

Final two teams meet in a National Championship game a week after the semi-final

Sorry if I misunderstood. There is no way the P-5s will ever agree. Look at the NCAA softball brackets just released. JMU, Cajuns and others got jacked over...and that is just in softball. No way the golden goose is turned loose in football.

GA Power was right on track.

I know the p5 doesn't want to lose any advantages.
BUT - the golden egg becomes larger with these changes, and let's face it - they are always going to have huge advantages in recruiting, etc. anyway.

The idea is that there are MANY more alumni/friends and family of programs outside the power 5 than inside the power five. People who have ties to other programs that outnumber them. Many of those people have no connection with a P5 or are a casual fan by proximity. Making THEIR programs relevant by actually giving those programs an entry point (even if their chances of surviving are slim) draws more attention from those viewers/potential fans. That raises ratings, especially of the P5/G5 matchups. Even from the P5's own fans imop. These G5 become teams that everyone sees and EVERYONE (figure of speech) watches in all those CCGs that all of a sudden THEN are part of the big picture! The regular season games against potential playoff G5 teams draws attention then. That raises viewer/ratings/ticket sales and takes heat off of those ADs who schedule those G5 games. The added ratings etc, bring more money. The added games in the playoff add more money.

It's a win/win. And the P5 need only risk the occasional Cinderella story that will almost certainly be crushed the first or second week of each playoff season. BUT -there will be that 1 or 2 times a decade when a roaring G5 runs deep into their chase for the crown. THAT is what the sport needs.