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Conferences looking forward to next round of negotiations?
Media world is evolving, conferences looking to online world

The article contains a few quotes from Scott and Delaney. Seems they might be eager to see the environment change.

It's mostly general information though.
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RE: Conferences looking forward to next round of negotiations?
(05-11-2017 12:08 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Media world is evolving, conferences looking to online world

The article contains a few quotes from Scott and Delaney. Seems they might be eager to see the environment change.

It's mostly general information though.
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RE: Conferences looking forward to next round of negotiations?
What will threaten conferences will be the ability of a school to utilize their own announcers to produce an event for somebody like Amazon. They could essentially cut the conference out of the loop. Then the conference will be for scheduling purposes other than for revenue production. The top brands would get richer and the lesser ones poorer.

All of the equity that the PAC and partially the Big 10 would have in their own networks would evaporate. And content would dominate the scheduling formats of the top schools.

What streaming will do is not only make the linear networks impractical, but the conferences' management of TV rights obsolete.
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(05-11-2017 02:15 PM)JRsec Wrote:  What will threaten conferences will be the ability of a school to utilize their own announcers to produce an event for somebody like Amazon. They could essentially cut the conference out of the loop. Then the conference will be for scheduling purposes other than for revenue production. The top brands would get richer and the lesser ones poorer.

All of the equity that the PAC and partially the Big 10 would have in their own networks would evaporate. And content would dominate the scheduling formats of the top schools.

What streaming will do is not only make the linear networks impractical, but the conferences' management of TV rights obsolete.

The schools could probably sync their individual broadcasts with their local radio guys and perhaps cut down on costs further. The tech side of that shouldn't be difficult and people wouldn't have to figure out a way to do it themselves. The consumer could simply choose which broadcast they want to follow, that of their favorite team or that of the opposing team, and the streaming does the rest. Shouldn't alter the amount of bandwidth used, I wouldn't think.

On that note, it might also be a way to monetize the radio broadcasts to a greater extent because you could simply make a feed available for any sport on a wide scale rather than reducing it to terrestrial radio and each individual station's website...several of which will not stream games online. It would be a great way to get out of market games and easier if it was all in one cozy location.

If I was the SEC, I might think about pooling digital radio rights and selling it to an entity like Amazon. Those rights are currently reserved to the schools aren't they?

I don't know, however, that they could completely cut the conferences out of the loop though. The technology makes it easier, sure, but the possibility exists now with standard TV. The prime example is LHN. The LHN seems like a great money making concept, but the reality is that few people are interested in just one team so the earning potential is reduced because the other schools aren't so cooperative. They have nothing to gain by doing so. A streaming version of the LHN, for example, would probably be profitable due to the lack of overhead, but it wouldn't guarantee big money on the other hand.

If the conference isn't pooling rights to sell as a package then I think everyone ends up making less money.
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(05-11-2017 03:34 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(05-11-2017 02:15 PM)JRsec Wrote:  What will threaten conferences will be the ability of a school to utilize their own announcers to produce an event for somebody like Amazon. They could essentially cut the conference out of the loop. Then the conference will be for scheduling purposes other than for revenue production. The top brands would get richer and the lesser ones poorer.

All of the equity that the PAC and partially the Big 10 would have in their own networks would evaporate. And content would dominate the scheduling formats of the top schools.

What streaming will do is not only make the linear networks impractical, but the conferences' management of TV rights obsolete.

The schools could probably sync their individual broadcasts with their local radio guys and perhaps cut down on costs further. The tech side of that shouldn't be difficult and people wouldn't have to figure out a way to do it themselves. The consumer could simply choose which broadcast they want to follow, that of their favorite team or that of the opposing team, and the streaming does the rest. Shouldn't alter the amount of bandwidth used, I wouldn't think.

On that note, it might also be a way to monetize the radio broadcasts to a greater extent because you could simply make a feed available for any sport on a wide scale rather than reducing it to terrestrial radio and each individual station's website...several of which will not stream games online. It would be a great way to get out of market games and easier if it was all in one cozy location.

If I was the SEC, I might think about pooling digital radio rights and selling it to an entity like Amazon. Those rights are currently reserved to the schools aren't they?

I don't know, however, that they could completely cut the conferences out of the loop though. The technology makes it easier, sure, but the possibility exists now with standard TV. The prime example is LHN. The LHN seems like a great money making concept, but the reality is that few people are interested in just one team so the earning potential is reduced because the other schools aren't so cooperative. They have nothing to gain by doing so. A streaming version of the LHN, for example, would probably be profitable due to the lack of overhead, but it wouldn't guarantee big money on the other hand.

If the conference isn't pooling rights to sell as a package then I think everyone ends up making less money.

I agree with your logic and like the idea of pooling radio rights and selling them to Amazon. I think the conference as a cartel of our rights is still the way to go. But the weak link would be Alabama and Florida perhaps feeling they could make more on their own. That's the risk just as it would be in the Big 10 or PAC or ACC.
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Conferences looking forward to next round of negotiations?
Can you stream Amazon, Hulu, Sling, Netflix, etc. off of your cell phone to your tv?
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(05-11-2017 07:17 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  Can you stream Amazon, Hulu, Sling, Netflix, etc. off of your cell phone to your tv?

I think Sling is a separate device unto itself, but for the others I think you can.

If you have a Chromecast then I think you can link it with your phone. There are probably other ways to do it too that I'm not familiar with. I'm behind the times generally when it comes to new tech.
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Here's a tidbit from a few weeks back. I can't remember if we talked about it.

Mountain West considering going fully to streaming

They're doing it because their start times are awful admittedly and the major networks aren't going to make room for them.

Might be an interesting trial balloon to see the potential of dedicating to streaming. If I remember, the Mountain West was the first league to actually have a network although that obviously failed.
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RE: Conferences looking forward to next round of negotiations?
(05-12-2017 04:16 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Here's a tidbit from a few weeks back. I can't remember if we talked about it.

Mountain West considering going fully to streaming

They're doing it because their start times are awful admittedly and the major networks aren't going to make room for them.

Might be an interesting trial balloon to see the potential of dedicating to streaming. If I remember, the Mountain West was the first league to actually have a network although that obviously failed.

Perfect model for that mid-major conference. Only thing they need to do is ensure they are not forgotten about.

Would also like to see more FCS schools/conferences do the same
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(05-11-2017 08:36 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(05-11-2017 07:17 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  Can you stream Amazon, Hulu, Sling, Netflix, etc. off of your cell phone to your tv?

I think Sling is a separate device unto itself, but for the others I think you can.

If you have a Chromecast then I think you can link it with your phone. There are probably other ways to do it too that I'm not familiar with. I'm behind the times generally when it comes to new tech.

Thanks. I was thinking about Chromecast for streaming ESPN3. Then a subscription to Amazon or something but wasn't sure if the mobile speeds would be adequate for regular viewing. Giving my circumstances this would be the only way that I could "cut the cord" & save enough money to make it worth it.
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(05-12-2017 10:10 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  
(05-11-2017 08:36 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(05-11-2017 07:17 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  Can you stream Amazon, Hulu, Sling, Netflix, etc. off of your cell phone to your tv?

I think Sling is a separate device unto itself, but for the others I think you can.

If you have a Chromecast then I think you can link it with your phone. There are probably other ways to do it too that I'm not familiar with. I'm behind the times generally when it comes to new tech.

Thanks. I was thinking about Chromecast for streaming ESPN3. Then a subscription to Amazon or something but wasn't sure if the mobile speeds would be adequate for regular viewing. Giving my circumstances this would be the only way that I could "cut the cord" & save enough money to make it worth it.

There are a lot of pieces to that puzzle including the service, device you are streaming from, and the device you are streaming to. I have a Samsung smart TV that has wifi and bluetooth and I sometimes connect my laptop to my TV as it's "monitor" and stream ESPN3 or during the NCAA tournament March Madness Live.

Most TVs or Blueray players already have built in apps for the amazon video, netflix, and hulu's of the world so those typically aren't a problem in terms of getting it on a TV vs. computer or phone.
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(05-12-2017 10:31 AM)tcufrog86 Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 10:10 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  
(05-11-2017 08:36 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(05-11-2017 07:17 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  Can you stream Amazon, Hulu, Sling, Netflix, etc. off of your cell phone to your tv?

I think Sling is a separate device unto itself, but for the others I think you can.

If you have a Chromecast then I think you can link it with your phone. There are probably other ways to do it too that I'm not familiar with. I'm behind the times generally when it comes to new tech.

Thanks. I was thinking about Chromecast for streaming ESPN3. Then a subscription to Amazon or something but wasn't sure if the mobile speeds would be adequate for regular viewing. Giving my circumstances this would be the only way that I could "cut the cord" & save enough money to make it worth it.

There are a lot of pieces to that puzzle including the service, device you are streaming from, and the device you are streaming to. I have a Samsung smart TV that has wifi and bluetooth and I sometimes connect my laptop to my TV as it's "monitor" and stream ESPN3 or during the NCAA tournament March Madness Live.

Most TVs or Blueray players already have built in apps for the amazon video, netflix, and hulu's of the world so those typically aren't a problem in terms of getting it on a TV vs. computer or phone.

Would be streaming from a smartphone via 3G mobile provider to either a tv with a USB port for Chromecast(?) or a Blueray player. Can't remember which apps the Blueray came with off of the top of my head but the tv didn't come with any.
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(05-11-2017 07:17 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  Can you stream Amazon, Hulu, Sling, Netflix, etc. off of your cell phone to your tv?
I use ROKU and I stream them all on my TV and phones and notepads.
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