(05-05-2017 10:35 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-05-2017 04:54 AM)XLance Wrote:  Swofford calls on negative speculation.

http://www.greensboro.com/sports/accxtra...47cda.html

Skipper has more credibility than Swofford. Swofford has pulled some of his own B.S. in the past. I seem to remember his kid subletting your T3 to a FOX held YES in New York which is one big reason your network couldn't even materialize until those rights were returned, or ended. It seems to me that this was the biggest reason that ESPN couldn't kick off the ACCN until 2019. So it seems to me the biggest pile of B.S. was in your conference office.

Don't you get tired of having to think up bad things to say about the ACC? I'll have to admit that you have a great imagination and you are good at taking a sliver of truth and creating uncertainty and doubt, but don't you just get tired of swimming against the tide?

(05-05-2017 12:16 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(05-05-2017 10:35 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-05-2017 04:54 AM)XLance Wrote:  Swofford calls on negative speculation.

http://www.greensboro.com/sports/accxtra...47cda.html

Skipper has more credibility than Swofford. Swofford has pulled some of his own B.S. in the past. I seem to remember his kid subletting your T3 to a FOX held YES in New York which is one big reason your network couldn't even materialize until those rights were returned, or ended. It seems to me that this was the biggest reason that ESPN couldn't kick off the ACCN until 2019. So it seems to me the biggest pile of B.S. was in your conference office.

Don't you get tired of having to think up bad things to say about the ACC? I'll have to admit that you have a great imagination and you are good at taking a sliver of truth and creating uncertainty and doubt, but don't you just get tired of swimming against the tide?

An Auburn guy get tired of swimming against the Tide? Hell no! Besides the truth hurts and never fails to get a response from you. Swofford gets too much respect considering the stuff that has gone on up there.

But, deep down X I respect your love of your sports and conference, I enjoy the back and forth as you like to needle as well and are pretty good at finding a soft spot to poke too.

You will have to search for it on Twitter, but Jim Miller basically said that whatever Wildhack said about the ACC network was probably true. He admitted that Wildhack had more information then he did.

(05-06-2017 09:35 PM)texasorange Wrote:  You will have to search for it on Twitter, but Jim Miller basically said that whatever Wildhack said about the ACC network was probably true. He admitted that Wildhack had more information then he did.

It really doesn't matter. When N.D. joins in full in connection with the ACCN's debut everything will be set in stone. Cincinnati will make a nice addition for a number of reasons.

I really don't see Texas or Oklahoma in the ACC, especially Oklahoma. Both really rely on playing a number of games in proximity to their region. Neither will want to leave so much behind and independent schedules are notoriously difficult to maintain, especially if there is contraction into 4 conferences.

Texas woof about academics but they have for their entire lives played with groups of schools with fairly low academic credentials. Rice and A&M being the only two SWC members that were even close to being in their league. In the Big 12 it didn't take them long to run off what were then 4 AAU schools (3 still are).

That and ESPN's hold on them, and SEC money and proximity, are why I don't see them in the Big 10. If the SEC made a Texa-homa deal Texas would play in this division: Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech. Since they could again schedule the Aggies as a permanent rival they would have all of the schools on their schedule that their alums and donors care about.

I think if ESPN could land Texas, Oklahoma and Notre Dame full time they will have essentially slammed the door on FOX, and the Big 10. I look for them to everything they can to make that happen.

36 schools between the SEC and ACC ranging from New York to Lubbock and Boston to Miami and covering everything in between is dominant!

(05-06-2017 09:39 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-06-2017 09:35 PM)texasorange Wrote:  You will have to search for it on Twitter, but Jim Miller basically said that whatever Wildhack said about the ACC network was probably true. He admitted that Wildhack had more information then he did.

It really doesn't matter. When N.D. joins in full in connection with the ACCN's debut everything will be set in stone. Cincinnati will make a nice addition for a number of reasons.

I really don't see Texas or Oklahoma in the ACC, especially Oklahoma. Both really rely on playing a number of games in proximity to their region. Neither will want to leave so much behind and independent schedules are notoriously difficult to maintain, especially if there is contraction into 4 conferences.

Texas woof about academics but they have for their entire lives played with groups of schools with fairly low academic credentials. Rice and A&M being the only two SWC members that were even close to being in their league. In the Big 12 it didn't take them long to run off what were then 4 AAU schools (3 still are).

That and ESPN's hold on them, and SEC money and proximity, are why I don't see them in the Big 10. If the SEC made a Texa-homa deal Texas would play in this division: Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech. Since they could again schedule the Aggies as a permanent rival they would have all of the schools on their schedule that their alums and donors care about.

I think if ESPN could land Texas, Oklahoma and Notre Dame full time they will have essentially slammed the door on FOX, and the Big 10. I look for them to everything they can to make that happen.

36 schools between the SEC and ACC ranging from New York to Lubbock and Boston to Miami and covering everything in between is dominant!

I agree, Texas and Oklahoma and any of the schools from that area are not going to be in the ACC. It would be pretty nice to see Notre Dame, Connecticut, West Virginia and Cincinnati in the ACC. I don't know if my fellow ACC members would agree, and I know Notre Dame fans like Terry would not agree but it would be nice.

(05-06-2017 10:25 PM)texasorange Wrote:  

(05-06-2017 09:39 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-06-2017 09:35 PM)texasorange Wrote:  You will have to search for it on Twitter, but Jim Miller basically said that whatever Wildhack said about the ACC network was probably true. He admitted that Wildhack had more information then he did.

It really doesn't matter. When N.D. joins in full in connection with the ACCN's debut everything will be set in stone. Cincinnati will make a nice addition for a number of reasons.

I really don't see Texas or Oklahoma in the ACC, especially Oklahoma. Both really rely on playing a number of games in proximity to their region. Neither will want to leave so much behind and independent schedules are notoriously difficult to maintain, especially if there is contraction into 4 conferences.

Texas woof about academics but they have for their entire lives played with groups of schools with fairly low academic credentials. Rice and A&M being the only two SWC members that were even close to being in their league. In the Big 12 it didn't take them long to run off what were then 4 AAU schools (3 still are).

That and ESPN's hold on them, and SEC money and proximity, are why I don't see them in the Big 10. If the SEC made a Texa-homa deal Texas would play in this division: Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech. Since they could again schedule the Aggies as a permanent rival they would have all of the schools on their schedule that their alums and donors care about.

I think if ESPN could land Texas, Oklahoma and Notre Dame full time they will have essentially slammed the door on FOX, and the Big 10. I look for them to everything they can to make that happen.

36 schools between the SEC and ACC ranging from New York to Lubbock and Boston to Miami and covering everything in between is dominant!

I agree, Texas and Oklahoma and any of the schools from that area are not going to be in the ACC. It would be pretty nice to see Notre Dame, Connecticut, West Virginia and Cincinnati in the ACC. I don't know if my fellow ACC members would agree, and I know Notre Dame fans like Terry would not agree but it would be nice.

Yes, and natural. Texas in the ACC is as unnatural as the 1972 East German Women's swimmers. Besides we need new thinking about this. Anything that is in the SEC benefits the ACC and vice versa. All schools will be available for scheduling without having to hoard them in one conference or another. And games played between us is House Money!

(05-06-2017 11:01 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-06-2017 10:25 PM)texasorange Wrote:  

(05-06-2017 09:39 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-06-2017 09:35 PM)texasorange Wrote:  You will have to search for it on Twitter, but Jim Miller basically said that whatever Wildhack said about the ACC network was probably true. He admitted that Wildhack had more information then he did.

It really doesn't matter. When N.D. joins in full in connection with the ACCN's debut everything will be set in stone. Cincinnati will make a nice addition for a number of reasons.

I really don't see Texas or Oklahoma in the ACC, especially Oklahoma. Both really rely on playing a number of games in proximity to their region. Neither will want to leave so much behind and independent schedules are notoriously difficult to maintain, especially if there is contraction into 4 conferences.

Texas woof about academics but they have for their entire lives played with groups of schools with fairly low academic credentials. Rice and A&M being the only two SWC members that were even close to being in their league. In the Big 12 it didn't take them long to run off what were then 4 AAU schools (3 still are).

That and ESPN's hold on them, and SEC money and proximity, are why I don't see them in the Big 10. If the SEC made a Texa-homa deal Texas would play in this division: Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech. Since they could again schedule the Aggies as a permanent rival they would have all of the schools on their schedule that their alums and donors care about.

I think if ESPN could land Texas, Oklahoma and Notre Dame full time they will have essentially slammed the door on FOX, and the Big 10. I look for them to everything they can to make that happen.

36 schools between the SEC and ACC ranging from New York to Lubbock and Boston to Miami and covering everything in between is dominant!

I agree, Texas and Oklahoma and any of the schools from that area are not going to be in the ACC. It would be pretty nice to see Notre Dame, Connecticut, West Virginia and Cincinnati in the ACC. I don't know if my fellow ACC members would agree, and I know Notre Dame fans like Terry would not agree but it would be nice.

Yes, and natural. Texas in the ACC is as unnatural as the 1972 East German Women's swimmers. Besides we need new thinking about this. Anything that is in the SEC benefits the ACC and vice versa. All schools will be available for scheduling without having to hoard them in one conference or another. And games played between us is House Money!

Money being equal then I would 100% prefer to have ND, Cincinnati, WV & UCONN over Texas & Oklahoma. I would welcome an equal partnership with the SEC.

(05-06-2017 09:39 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-06-2017 09:35 PM)texasorange Wrote:  You will have to search for it on Twitter, but Jim Miller basically said that whatever Wildhack said about the ACC network was probably true. He admitted that Wildhack had more information then he did.

It really doesn't matter. When N.D. joins in full in connection with the ACCN's debut everything will be set in stone. Cincinnati will make a nice addition for a number of reasons.

I really don't see Texas or Oklahoma in the ACC, especially Oklahoma. Both really rely on playing a number of games in proximity to their region. Neither will want to leave so much behind and independent schedules are notoriously difficult to maintain, especially if there is contraction into 4 conferences.

Texas woof about academics but they have for their entire lives played with groups of schools with fairly low academic credentials. Rice and A&M being the only two SWC members that were even close to being in their league. In the Big 12 it didn't take them long to run off what were then 4 AAU schools (3 still are).

That and ESPN's hold on them, and SEC money and proximity, are why I don't see them in the Big 10. If the SEC made a Texa-homa deal Texas would play in this division: Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech. Since they could again schedule the Aggies as a permanent rival they would have all of the schools on their schedule that their alums and donors care about.

I think if ESPN could land Texas, Oklahoma and Notre Dame full time they will have essentially slammed the door on FOX, and the Big 10. I look for them to everything they can to make that happen.

36 schools between the SEC and ACC ranging from New York to Lubbock and Boston to Miami and covering everything in between is dominant!

I still believe Notre Dame would rather never be eligible for a national title than give up their traditional schedule.