(04-25-2017 09:44 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  If he increases attendance at games at FedexForum, it's a success.

If he doesnt, it's a failure.

#moneytalks

(04-25-2017 09:28 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  He's already succeeded because he's lowered you morons expectations so low that you think the NIT in his 2nd year will be a success....and a simple NCAA bid by year 3 or 4 will also be a success

In my opinion, if he's not in the Tournament next year and the Sweet 16 the year after, he's a worse failure than Opie

He's already ran off better recruits than he will ever get here in the future (Dedric, KJ and Markel), not to mention other top recruits that Keelon would've brought (Jonathon, Chandler, Jefferies, and more)... but he's gonna do it with 3 stars and jucos that nobody else wants....gimme a break

Just 3 or 4 years ago we were averaging 16k per game...Opie destroyed that and this guy is only continuing the destruction. And he's being paid (3million per) like a top 10 coach. What a joke.

at some point Memphis fans are going to have to look in the mirror and understand that Josh Pastner and Tubby Smith aren't the issue...the issue is looking them right in the face.

Our schedule of cupcakes gives us 20 wins next season. Let's see if we can accomplish that.

(04-25-2017 10:02 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Our schedule of cupcakes gives us 20 wins next season. Let's see if we can accomplish that.

The AAC will have plenty of top 100 teams, half the conference seem between 65 - 100 at some point last year.

You really can't pick the number of wins until we see what we get in conference.

(04-25-2017 10:02 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Our schedule of cupcakes gives us 20 wins next season. Let's see if we can accomplish that.

yeah...nothing says cupcake like Louisville, Alabama, UConn, Cincy, Temple, Wichita State, SMU, Tulsa, Houston, etc

(04-25-2017 10:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 09:28 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  He's already succeeded because he's lowered you morons expectations so low that you think the NIT in his 2nd year will be a success....and a simple NCAA bid by year 3 or 4 will also be a success

In my opinion, if he's not in the Tournament next year and the Sweet 16 the year after, he's a worse failure than Opie

He's already ran off better recruits than he will ever get here in the future (Dedric, KJ and Markel), not to mention other top recruits that Keelon would've brought (Jonathon, Chandler, Jefferies, and more)... but he's gonna do it with 3 stars and jucos that nobody else wants....gimme a break

Just 3 or 4 years ago we were averaging 16k per game...Opie destroyed that and this guy is only continuing the destruction. And he's being paid (3million per) like a top 10 coach. What a joke.

at some point Memphis fans are going to have to look in the mirror and understand that Josh Pastner and Tubby Smith aren't the issue...the issue is looking them right in the face.

Nope. Everything will boil down to forum attendance (as mentioned by mr bwj) Bottom line is money.

Will attendance increase, decrease or stay the same.

(04-25-2017 09:44 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  If he increases attendance at games at FedexForum, it's a success.

If he doesnt, it's a failure.

#moneytalks

Several stupid posts. Y'all keep these hot takes coming.

(04-25-2017 10:07 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 09:28 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  He's already succeeded because he's lowered you morons expectations so low that you think the NIT in his 2nd year will be a success....and a simple NCAA bid by year 3 or 4 will also be a success

In my opinion, if he's not in the Tournament next year and the Sweet 16 the year after, he's a worse failure than Opie

He's already ran off better recruits than he will ever get here in the future (Dedric, KJ and Markel), not to mention other top recruits that Keelon would've brought (Jonathon, Chandler, Jefferies, and more)... but he's gonna do it with 3 stars and jucos that nobody else wants....gimme a break

Just 3 or 4 years ago we were averaging 16k per game...Opie destroyed that and this guy is only continuing the destruction. And he's being paid (3million per) like a top 10 coach. What a joke.

at some point Memphis fans are going to have to look in the mirror and understand that Josh Pastner and Tubby Smith aren't the issue...the issue is looking them right in the face.

Nope. Everything will boil down to forum attendance (as mentioned by mr bwj) Bottom line is money.

Will attendance increase, decrease or stay the same.

yep. attendance is on the fans.

if you refuse to support your team in need you sure don't deserve em when they're good.

I almost hope it all tanks next season...get the miserables off the bandwagon and start over...It would ALL be worth it.

(04-25-2017 10:06 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:02 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Our schedule of cupcakes gives us 20 wins next season. Let's see if we can accomplish that.

yeah...nothing says cupcake like Louisville, Alabama, UConn, Cincy, Temple, Wichita State, SMU, Tulsa, Houston, etc

UConn and Temple were not good last season.
Then you still have an entire schedule you are overlooking.
Take out those 6 good teams you listed and how many does that leave you? 20+? yep.

I can't believe some of you guys, so negative!!

(04-25-2017 10:02 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Our schedule of cupcakes gives us 20 wins next season. Let's see if we can accomplish that.

Has the 2017-18 scheduled been released? I do not see it at: http://www.gotigersgo.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbball.

Realistically, it will be a challenge to win one more game than last year with a roster full of inexperienced three stars and JUCO's.

(04-25-2017 10:13 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:07 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 09:28 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  He's already succeeded because he's lowered you morons expectations so low that you think the NIT in his 2nd year will be a success....and a simple NCAA bid by year 3 or 4 will also be a success

In my opinion, if he's not in the Tournament next year and the Sweet 16 the year after, he's a worse failure than Opie

He's already ran off better recruits than he will ever get here in the future (Dedric, KJ and Markel), not to mention other top recruits that Keelon would've brought (Jonathon, Chandler, Jefferies, and more)... but he's gonna do it with 3 stars and jucos that nobody else wants....gimme a break

Just 3 or 4 years ago we were averaging 16k per game...Opie destroyed that and this guy is only continuing the destruction. And he's being paid (3million per) like a top 10 coach. What a joke.

at some point Memphis fans are going to have to look in the mirror and understand that Josh Pastner and Tubby Smith aren't the issue...the issue is looking them right in the face.

Nope. Everything will boil down to forum attendance (as mentioned by mr bwj) Bottom line is money.

Will attendance increase, decrease or stay the same.

yep. attendance is on the fans.

if you refuse to support your team in need you sure don't deserve em when they're good.

I almost hope it all tanks next season...get the miserables off the bandwagon and start over...It would ALL be worth it.

You lost me with your third sentence. I can't pull for tanking. I actually think we will be good.

(04-25-2017 10:15 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:02 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Our schedule of cupcakes gives us 20 wins next season. Let's see if we can accomplish that.

Has the 2017-18 scheduled been released? I do not see it at: http://www.gotigersgo.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbball.

Realistically, it will be a challenge to win one more game than last year with a roster full of inexperienced three stars and JUCO's.

No, a lot of the schedule was locked in a couple of years in advance. Tubby really has very limited influence on the teams we play. There are only a couple of slots left available. The admin talked about it not long ago and basically said we are stuck because p5s don't want to play us home and home and we are required to have 18 home games each season so we are stuck with a lot of buy games at this point.

(04-25-2017 10:17 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:13 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:07 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 09:28 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  He's already succeeded because he's lowered you morons expectations so low that you think the NIT in his 2nd year will be a success....and a simple NCAA bid by year 3 or 4 will also be a success

In my opinion, if he's not in the Tournament next year and the Sweet 16 the year after, he's a worse failure than Opie

He's already ran off better recruits than he will ever get here in the future (Dedric, KJ and Markel), not to mention other top recruits that Keelon would've brought (Jonathon, Chandler, Jefferies, and more)... but he's gonna do it with 3 stars and jucos that nobody else wants....gimme a break

Just 3 or 4 years ago we were averaging 16k per game...Opie destroyed that and this guy is only continuing the destruction. And he's being paid (3million per) like a top 10 coach. What a joke.

at some point Memphis fans are going to have to look in the mirror and understand that Josh Pastner and Tubby Smith aren't the issue...the issue is looking them right in the face.

Nope. Everything will boil down to forum attendance (as mentioned by mr bwj) Bottom line is money.

Will attendance increase, decrease or stay the same.

yep. attendance is on the fans.

if you refuse to support your team in need you sure don't deserve em when they're good.

I almost hope it all tanks next season...get the miserables off the bandwagon and start over...It would ALL be worth it.

You lost me with your third sentence. I can't pull for tanking. I actually think we will be good.

Who gives a flying flip about the miserables? They're SEC fans in disguise. To not support this program, team, or coaching staff speaks volumes relative to real fans vs fair weather/bandwagon azzholes...point blank. Go Tigers!!

(04-25-2017 10:17 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:13 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:07 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 09:28 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  He's already succeeded because he's lowered you morons expectations so low that you think the NIT in his 2nd year will be a success....and a simple NCAA bid by year 3 or 4 will also be a success

In my opinion, if he's not in the Tournament next year and the Sweet 16 the year after, he's a worse failure than Opie

He's already ran off better recruits than he will ever get here in the future (Dedric, KJ and Markel), not to mention other top recruits that Keelon would've brought (Jonathon, Chandler, Jefferies, and more)... but he's gonna do it with 3 stars and jucos that nobody else wants....gimme a break

Just 3 or 4 years ago we were averaging 16k per game...Opie destroyed that and this guy is only continuing the destruction. And he's being paid (3million per) like a top 10 coach. What a joke.

at some point Memphis fans are going to have to look in the mirror and understand that Josh Pastner and Tubby Smith aren't the issue...the issue is looking them right in the face.

Nope. Everything will boil down to forum attendance (as mentioned by mr bwj) Bottom line is money.

Will attendance increase, decrease or stay the same.

yep. attendance is on the fans.

if you refuse to support your team in need you sure don't deserve em when they're good.

I almost hope it all tanks next season...get the miserables off the bandwagon and start over...It would ALL be worth it.

You lost me with your third sentence. I can't pull for tanking. I actually think we will be good.

I do think next seasons team will surprise some folks...

(04-25-2017 10:23 PM)Ttaylor Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:17 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:13 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:07 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  at some point Memphis fans are going to have to look in the mirror and understand that Josh Pastner and Tubby Smith aren't the issue...the issue is looking them right in the face.

Nope. Everything will boil down to forum attendance (as mentioned by mr bwj) Bottom line is money.

Will attendance increase, decrease or stay the same.

yep. attendance is on the fans.

if you refuse to support your team in need you sure don't deserve em when they're good.

I almost hope it all tanks next season...get the miserables off the bandwagon and start over...It would ALL be worth it.

You lost me with your third sentence. I can't pull for tanking. I actually think we will be good.

Who gives a flying flip about the miserables? They're SEC fans in disguise. To not support this program, team, or coaching staff speaks volumes relative to real fans vs fair weather/bandwagon azzholes...point blank. Go Tigers!!

You didn't support Pastner, I guess that means you are a SEC fan in disguise. You didn't support the coaching staff, the team, or the progam. You see how that works?

If it was OK for you to not support the coaching staff but still be a fan, how do you say that others who do not support the coaching staff are not fans?

(04-25-2017 10:25 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:23 PM)Ttaylor Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:17 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:13 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:07 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Nope. Everything will boil down to forum attendance (as mentioned by mr bwj) Bottom line is money.

Will attendance increase, decrease or stay the same.

yep. attendance is on the fans.

if you refuse to support your team in need you sure don't deserve em when they're good.

I almost hope it all tanks next season...get the miserables off the bandwagon and start over...It would ALL be worth it.

You lost me with your third sentence. I can't pull for tanking. I actually think we will be good.

Who gives a flying flip about the miserables? They're SEC fans in disguise. To not support this program, team, or coaching staff speaks volumes relative to real fans vs fair weather/bandwagon azzholes...point blank. Go Tigers!!

You didn't support Pastner, I guess that means you are a SEC fan in disguise. You didn't support the coaching staff, the team, or the progam. You see how that works?

If it was OK for you to not support the coaching staff but still be a fan, how do you say that others who do not support the coaching staff are not fans?

One guy had seven seasons and was treated with kid gloves. He's so nice. He's so nice. The other guy started getting ripped minutes after he was hired.

Question, will you quit the bashing if he's winning and having a good season and lands some good recruits like Lomax? Or will you continue your stance?

(04-25-2017 10:31 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:25 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:23 PM)Ttaylor Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:17 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:13 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  yep. attendance is on the fans.

if you refuse to support your team in need you sure don't deserve em when they're good.

I almost hope it all tanks next season...get the miserables off the bandwagon and start over...It would ALL be worth it.

You lost me with your third sentence. I can't pull for tanking. I actually think we will be good.

Who gives a flying flip about the miserables? They're SEC fans in disguise. To not support this program, team, or coaching staff speaks volumes relative to real fans vs fair weather/bandwagon azzholes...point blank. Go Tigers!!

You didn't support Pastner, I guess that means you are a SEC fan in disguise. You didn't support the coaching staff, the team, or the progam. You see how that works?

If it was OK for you to not support the coaching staff but still be a fan, how do you say that others who do not support the coaching staff are not fans?

One guy had seven seasons and was treated with kid gloves. He's so nice. He's so nice. The other guy started getting ripped minutes after he was hired.

Question, will you quit the bashing if he's winning and having a good season and lands some good recruits like Lomax? Or will you continue your stance?

Question, pointing out someone not supporting a coaching staff but still a fan calling others who do not support a coaching staff bad fans is bashing to you?

Isn't the base period for his contract 5 years?

He will be a success if he is still coaching here at the end of his basic contract period. He can then retire having been a successful coach and rebuilding the brand.

He will be a failure if he doesn't make it to the end of the contract period, because he screwed the pooch and got booted early. His legacy will then be determined by the last place he coached (here) and he will have to live with that failure on his head. Unless someone else is desperate enough to take him off our hands.

I'm rooting for him to be a success of such magnitude that someone lures him away early and we can move onward and upward from there. I can dream, can't I?