(04-25-2017 07:49 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 06:47 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 01:20 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 12:13 PM)jgardne Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 11:52 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  Ok. Let's get the facts straight.

Freshman Year: 8.3ppg and 4.3 rpg at Juco and didn't start a game. [1]

Sophomore Year: 8.9ppg and 4.0 rpg at JUCO, while only averaging 19.4 min per game. Started every game. [2]

Please stop talking smack about a kid. He's going to contribute on this team next year. He might not start but he's going to prove depth if we run like Tubby claims.

He had an offer from NM, and this late in the year it's good to pick up any big. We could of used a guy like him last year. If fact, we missed on Ngor Barnaba who started over him his freshman year at Missouri State-West Plains.

I know he's going to average 4 and 2, in 14 minutes next year. But that's going to help.

[1]: http://www.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2015-16...lparksmjwr
[2]: http://www.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2016-17...arksjr5i1l

Is posting stats talking smack?

If the stats are correct, it would help.

First he averaged 9 in HS, which was wrong, then he never started a game in JuCo, which was also wrong. Next he's gonna have a hook for a hand and two club feet.

Hawthorne, their leading rebounder, signed with MTSU.

Sikes, their leading scorer and 2nd leading rebounder, signed with South Alabama.

Their 3rd leading rebounder has been offered by Nichols State.

Their 11 and 5 guy (2nd leading scorer, 4th leading rebounder), Emanuel Thompson, signed with Morehead State.

Their 9 and 4 guy (3rd leading scorer and 6th leading rebounder), Mike Parks, signed with the University of Memphis.

No one is saying the guy has to come in and lead the team in scoring.

I don't know anything about those other guys and don't really care. I will wager that Mike Parks Jr's production exceeds Chad Rykhoek's by a wide margin.

I realize that aint saying much, but that's all we're looking for here.

o no...I can't go that low...I'm not gonna use Chad to set the bar for my expectations.

(04-25-2017 04:09 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  As long as we meet the expectations of where we are supposed to finish in our conference, I'm kewl.

Preseason predictions had the Tigers finishing fifth in the conference this year.

They did finish fifth. That met expectations.

Honestly, there weren't enough returning players to make the postseason this year.

Next year could go either way. Could make the NIT or could stay home again.

But based on who they're already recruiting for next year's recruiting class, I get the feeling we're going back to the big dance soon.

(04-25-2017 06:47 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 01:20 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 12:13 PM)jgardne Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 11:52 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 11:28 AM)jgardne Wrote:  http://www.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2015-16...lparksmjwr

8.3ppg and 4.3 rpg at Juco and didn't start a game.

Ok. Let's get the facts straight.

Freshman Year: 8.3ppg and 4.3 rpg at Juco and didn't start a game. [1]

Sophomore Year: 8.9ppg and 4.0 rpg at JUCO, while only averaging 19.4 min per game. Started every game. [2]

Please stop talking smack about a kid. He's going to contribute on this team next year. He might not start but he's going to prove depth if we run like Tubby claims.

He had an offer from NM, and this late in the year it's good to pick up any big. We could of used a guy like him last year. If fact, we missed on Ngor Barnaba who started over him his freshman year at Missouri State-West Plains.

I know he's going to average 4 and 2, in 14 minutes next year. But that's going to help.

[1]: http://www.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2015-16...lparksmjwr
[2]: http://www.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2016-17...arksjr5i1l

Is posting stats talking smack?

If the stats are correct, it would help.

First he averaged 9 in HS, which was wrong, then he never started a game in JuCo, which was also wrong. Next he's gonna have a hook for a hand and two club feet.

Hawthorne, their leading rebounder, signed with MTSU.

Sikes, their leading scorer and 2nd leading rebounder, signed with South Alabama.

Their 3rd leading rebounder has been offered by Nichols State.

Their 11 and 5 guy (2nd leading scorer, 4th leading rebounder), Emanuel Thompson, signed with Morehead State.

Their 9 and 4 guy (3rd leading scorer and 6th leading rebounder), Mike Parks, signed with the University of Memphis.

MTSU, the best team in the State for the past three years, continues to solidify its talent. They signed Nick King also, but he is not good enough for Memphis per Tubby.

(04-25-2017 07:52 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 07:49 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 06:47 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 01:20 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 12:13 PM)jgardne Wrote:  Is posting stats talking smack?

If the stats are correct, it would help.

First he averaged 9 in HS, which was wrong, then he never started a game in JuCo, which was also wrong. Next he's gonna have a hook for a hand and two club feet.

Hawthorne, their leading rebounder, signed with MTSU.

Sikes, their leading scorer and 2nd leading rebounder, signed with South Alabama.

Their 3rd leading rebounder has been offered by Nichols State.

Their 11 and 5 guy (2nd leading scorer, 4th leading rebounder), Emanuel Thompson, signed with Morehead State.

Their 9 and 4 guy (3rd leading scorer and 6th leading rebounder), Mike Parks, signed with the University of Memphis.

No one is saying the guy has to come in and lead the team in scoring.

I don't know anything about those other guys and don't really care. I will wager that Mike Parks Jr's production exceeds Chad Rykhoek's by a wide margin.

I realize that aint saying much, but that's all we're looking for here.

o no...I can't go that low...I'm not gonna use Chad to set the bar for my expectations.

Amen sister

(04-25-2017 02:59 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  We haven't played one game in year two yet.

We have played the last two games.

never meant to set expectations, just giving everyone a heads up to who we signed, as related to his teammates

It seems to me everyone can draw his own expectations from just the reality of what is happening.

I don't think we should get to the point where we fear to post the relevant stats on a new recruit. We've always done that.

Posting where he stood in relation to his teammates is relevant.

If he averages nine points a game in college, then he will be a good addition

(04-25-2017 09:46 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  It seems to me everyone can draw his own expectations from just the reality of what is happening.

I don't think we should get to the point where we fear to post the relevant stats on a new recruit. We've always done that.

Posting where he stood in relation to his teammates is relevant.

None of this means crap. What will be relevant is when the season starts and you see the players play and see if their abilities equal WINS. The idea of proclaiming these players suck and yet you have never seen them play is dumb. At least wait to see them play about 5 to 10 games. It's the prudent thing to do.

(04-25-2017 05:18 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 05:11 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 04:48 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 04:09 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  As long as we meet the expectations of where we are supposed to finish in our conference, I'm kewl.

You're easy to please then.

absolutely

Everyone complaining about Tubby's recruiting last year would have been happy to have all these 6'7", 6'8", 6'9" guys coming in -- or at least, that's what they said then.

Right, that's when we were building around the core of Dedric, KJ and Markel. We are now building around a core of Martin, Rivers and Azab...

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(04-25-2017 10:28 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 05:18 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 05:11 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 04:48 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 04:09 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  As long as we meet the expectations of where we are supposed to finish in our conference, I'm kewl.

You're easy to please then.

absolutely

Everyone complaining about Tubby's recruiting last year would have been happy to have all these 6'7", 6'8", 6'9" guys coming in -- or at least, that's what they said then.

Right, that's when we were building around the core of Dedric, KJ and Markel. We are now building around a core of Martin, Rivers and Azab...

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Clearly he was trying to make a really bad point.

(04-25-2017 06:47 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 01:20 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 12:13 PM)jgardne Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 11:52 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 11:28 AM)jgardne Wrote:  http://www.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2015-16...lparksmjwr

8.3ppg and 4.3 rpg at Juco and didn't start a game.

Ok. Let's get the facts straight.

Freshman Year: 8.3ppg and 4.3 rpg at Juco and didn't start a game. [1]

Sophomore Year: 8.9ppg and 4.0 rpg at JUCO, while only averaging 19.4 min per game. Started every game. [2]

Please stop talking smack about a kid. He's going to contribute on this team next year. He might not start but he's going to prove depth if we run like Tubby claims.

He had an offer from NM, and this late in the year it's good to pick up any big. We could of used a guy like him last year. If fact, we missed on Ngor Barnaba who started over him his freshman year at Missouri State-West Plains.

I know he's going to average 4 and 2, in 14 minutes next year. But that's going to help.

[1]: http://www.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2015-16...lparksmjwr
[2]: http://www.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2016-17...arksjr5i1l

Is posting stats talking smack?

If the stats are correct, it would help.

First he averaged 9 in HS, which was wrong, then he never started a game in JuCo, which was also wrong. Next he's gonna have a hook for a hand and two club feet.

Hawthorne, their leading rebounder, signed with MTSU.

Sikes, their leading scorer and 2nd leading rebounder, signed with South Alabama.

Their 3rd leading rebounder has been offered by Nichols State.

Their 11 and 5 guy (2nd leading scorer, 4th leading rebounder), Emanuel Thompson, signed with Morehead State.

Their 9 and 4 guy (3rd leading scorer and 6th leading rebounder), Mike Parks, signed with the University of Memphis.

Per Minute Stats please...

Boom! Welcome aboard! Guy got some toughness to lay out on people...
GO TIGERS!!!

(04-25-2017 10:30 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 06:47 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 01:20 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 12:13 PM)jgardne Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 11:52 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  Ok. Let's get the facts straight.

Freshman Year: 8.3ppg and 4.3 rpg at Juco and didn't start a game. [1]

Sophomore Year: 8.9ppg and 4.0 rpg at JUCO, while only averaging 19.4 min per game. Started every game. [2]

Please stop talking smack about a kid. He's going to contribute on this team next year. He might not start but he's going to prove depth if we run like Tubby claims.

He had an offer from NM, and this late in the year it's good to pick up any big. We could of used a guy like him last year. If fact, we missed on Ngor Barnaba who started over him his freshman year at Missouri State-West Plains.

I know he's going to average 4 and 2, in 14 minutes next year. But that's going to help.

[1]: http://www.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2015-16...lparksmjwr
[2]: http://www.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2016-17...arksjr5i1l

Is posting stats talking smack?

If the stats are correct, it would help.

First he averaged 9 in HS, which was wrong, then he never started a game in JuCo, which was also wrong. Next he's gonna have a hook for a hand and two club feet.

Hawthorne, their leading rebounder, signed with MTSU.

Sikes, their leading scorer and 2nd leading rebounder, signed with South Alabama.

Their 3rd leading rebounder has been offered by Nichols State.

Their 11 and 5 guy (2nd leading scorer, 4th leading rebounder), Emanuel Thompson, signed with Morehead State.

Their 9 and 4 guy (3rd leading scorer and 6th leading rebounder), Mike Parks, signed with the University of Memphis.

Per Minute Stats please...

It is a red flag that his coach opted not to allot him more minutes.

(04-26-2017 07:26 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:30 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 06:47 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 01:20 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 12:13 PM)jgardne Wrote:  Is posting stats talking smack?

If the stats are correct, it would help.

First he averaged 9 in HS, which was wrong, then he never started a game in JuCo, which was also wrong. Next he's gonna have a hook for a hand and two club feet.

Hawthorne, their leading rebounder, signed with MTSU.

Sikes, their leading scorer and 2nd leading rebounder, signed with South Alabama.

Their 3rd leading rebounder has been offered by Nichols State.

Their 11 and 5 guy (2nd leading scorer, 4th leading rebounder), Emanuel Thompson, signed with Morehead State.

Their 9 and 4 guy (3rd leading scorer and 6th leading rebounder), Mike Parks, signed with the University of Memphis.

Per Minute Stats please...

It is a red flag that his coach opted not to allot him more minutes.

Why? No one know what the circumstances were.

(04-26-2017 07:26 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:30 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 06:47 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 01:20 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 12:13 PM)jgardne Wrote:  Is posting stats talking smack?

If the stats are correct, it would help.

First he averaged 9 in HS, which was wrong, then he never started a game in JuCo, which was also wrong. Next he's gonna have a hook for a hand and two club feet.

Hawthorne, their leading rebounder, signed with MTSU.

Sikes, their leading scorer and 2nd leading rebounder, signed with South Alabama.

Their 3rd leading rebounder has been offered by Nichols State.

Their 11 and 5 guy (2nd leading scorer, 4th leading rebounder), Emanuel Thompson, signed with Morehead State.

Their 9 and 4 guy (3rd leading scorer and 6th leading rebounder), Mike Parks, signed with the University of Memphis.

Per Minute Stats please...

It is a red flag that his coach opted not to allot him more minutes.

from the film snippets I doubt he could run up and down the court for more than 2-3 minutes at a time. He'll have to be in much better shape to be able to play for us at all.

(04-26-2017 10:21 AM)Oman Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 07:26 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:30 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 06:47 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 01:20 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  If the stats are correct, it would help.

First he averaged 9 in HS, which was wrong, then he never started a game in JuCo, which was also wrong. Next he's gonna have a hook for a hand and two club feet.

Hawthorne, their leading rebounder, signed with MTSU.

Sikes, their leading scorer and 2nd leading rebounder, signed with South Alabama.

Their 3rd leading rebounder has been offered by Nichols State.

Their 11 and 5 guy (2nd leading scorer, 4th leading rebounder), Emanuel Thompson, signed with Morehead State.

Their 9 and 4 guy (3rd leading scorer and 6th leading rebounder), Mike Parks, signed with the University of Memphis.

Per Minute Stats please...

It is a red flag that his coach opted not to allot him more minutes.

from the film snippets I doubt he could run up and down the court for more than 2-3 minutes at a time. He'll have to be in much better shape to be able to play for us at all.

He has a tendency to foul (which may be related to fatigue, bad footwork, bad judgement, slowness, etc). He had three or more fouls in 56% of games played. It is a high rate of fouls per minute played.

http://www.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2016-17...log&pos=bc

(04-26-2017 10:45 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 10:21 AM)Oman Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 07:26 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:30 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 06:47 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  Hawthorne, their leading rebounder, signed with MTSU.

Sikes, their leading scorer and 2nd leading rebounder, signed with South Alabama.

Their 3rd leading rebounder has been offered by Nichols State.

Their 11 and 5 guy (2nd leading scorer, 4th leading rebounder), Emanuel Thompson, signed with Morehead State.

Their 9 and 4 guy (3rd leading scorer and 6th leading rebounder), Mike Parks, signed with the University of Memphis.

Per Minute Stats please...

It is a red flag that his coach opted not to allot him more minutes.

from the film snippets I doubt he could run up and down the court for more than 2-3 minutes at a time. He'll have to be in much better shape to be able to play for us at all.

He has a tendency to foul (which may be related to fatigue, bad footwork, bad judgement, slowness, etc). He had three or more fouls in 56% of games played. It is a high rate of fouls per minute played.

http://www.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2016-17...log&pos=bc

hmmm....yea..he fouled out in 21 mins and got 4 in 15. lol.

Good news is, his rebounded better and fouls lessened in the last 3 games

He could be a good role player next year. As people said all last year - we had the scholly to give. My expectations are not the next Dorsey or Massie. I expect he'll be limited this year, and maybe next year can be a solid rotation guy. But what I KNOW is we needed size and he provides it. I also KNOW the staff has evaluated at least 3 centers in the past week, and they chose this guy to offer.

Welcome aboard.

(04-26-2017 02:08 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 10:45 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 10:21 AM)Oman Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 07:26 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:30 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Per Minute Stats please...

It is a red flag that his coach opted not to allot him more minutes.

from the film snippets I doubt he could run up and down the court for more than 2-3 minutes at a time. He'll have to be in much better shape to be able to play for us at all.

He has a tendency to foul (which may be related to fatigue, bad footwork, bad judgement, slowness, etc). He had three or more fouls in 56% of games played. It is a high rate of fouls per minute played.

http://www.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2016-17...log&pos=bc

hmmm....yea..he fouled out in 21 mins and got 4 in 15. lol.

Good news is, his rebounded better and fouls lessened in the last 3 games

The speed and physicality of D-1 is much greater than JUCO. He will be a foul magnet.