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SMU's only hope for P5 status is if BIGXII implodes with Texas, TTech, OU, OSU leaving for PAC. I think SEC takes UWV and Kansas for Basketball. That leaves 4 for the American/BIGXII. With those and Army/Air Force (or Kansas/WVU) that makes 18. So no expansion until we see what happens with the BIGXII.
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(04-23-2017 02:27 PM)AusTxPony Wrote:  SMU's only hope for P5 status is if BIGXII implodes with Texas, TTech, OU, OSU leaving for PAC. I think SEC takes UWV and Kansas for Basketball. That leaves 4 for the American/BIGXII. With those and Army/Air Force (or Kansas/WVU) that makes 18. So no expansion until we see what happens with the BIGXII.

I dont know why people think tech will go to The pac 12 they have no shot. Houston has a better shot at the pac 12 than tech does.
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(04-23-2017 02:11 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 01:53 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 01:48 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 01:21 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  All fine an dandy except espn knows every team in the conference will bolt at the first chance to get into even a marginally better conference (see big 12). So why give money to a conference that none of the teams even want to really be a part of. Come 2024-25 this conference is going to lose alot of teams.

We are talking today and espn guaranteeing content until 2025. Nobody knows what will happen. Clearly espn doesn't want big 12 expansion. They paid for then not to expand.

They only paid them $10million dollars which is basically nothing since that comes out to $1 million per team.

So what makes it seem likely that espn is going to give us any significant amount of money?

The point is they paid money to not expand so no guarantee espn wants to fork over big money to expand in 8 years. Teams desiring to change conferences have little impact since espn controls expansion anyway. This is about guaranteed content and how bad espn needs us.

I'm personally one on the low side of the $$$. I think we get $3.5 to $4 million.

I agree its going to be low. But the fact that espn paid the big 12 pennies not to expand is bad news for us. How much they need us is up for debate but the fact that they were able stop Big 12 expansion for almost nothing means they will probably try to do the same thing with us.
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(04-23-2017 02:31 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:27 PM)AusTxPony Wrote:  SMU's only hope for P5 status is if BIGXII implodes with Texas, TTech, OU, OSU leaving for PAC. I think SEC takes UWV and Kansas for Basketball. That leaves 4 for the American/BIGXII. With those and Army/Air Force (or Kansas/WVU) that makes 18. So no expansion until we see what happens with the BIGXII.

I dont know why people think tech will go to The pac 12 they have no shot. Houston has a better shot at the pac 12 than tech does.

I am pretty sure those were the 4 negotiating to make the PAC16 several years ago. So not sure why you don't think it could happen since it almost did already.
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(04-23-2017 02:35 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:11 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 01:53 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 01:48 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 01:21 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  All fine an dandy except espn knows every team in the conference will bolt at the first chance to get into even a marginally better conference (see big 12). So why give money to a conference that none of the teams even want to really be a part of. Come 2024-25 this conference is going to lose alot of teams.

We are talking today and espn guaranteeing content until 2025. Nobody knows what will happen. Clearly espn doesn't want big 12 expansion. They paid for then not to expand.

They only paid them $10million dollars which is basically nothing since that comes out to $1 million per team.

So what makes it seem likely that espn is going to give us any significant amount of money?

The point is they paid money to not expand so no guarantee espn wants to fork over big money to expand in 8 years. Teams desiring to change conferences have little impact since espn controls expansion anyway. This is about guaranteed content and how bad espn needs us.

I'm personally one on the low side of the $$$. I think we get $3.5 to $4 million.

I agree its going to be low. But the fact that espn paid the big 12 pennies not to expand is bad news for us. How much they need us is up for debate but the fact that they were able stop Big 12 expansion for almost nothing means they will probably try to do the same thing with us.

Pennies? I think everyone here would love an extra million in the tv contract. The entire expansion was just to extort more out of espn. Everything is speculation now. Is there real bidders that want the aac? Espn can't lose the aac. They have a content problem for espnu and espn news if that happens.
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(04-23-2017 02:40 PM)PT_american Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:31 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:27 PM)AusTxPony Wrote:  SMU's only hope for P5 status is if BIGXII implodes with Texas, TTech, OU, OSU leaving for PAC. I think SEC takes UWV and Kansas for Basketball. That leaves 4 for the American/BIGXII. With those and Army/Air Force (or Kansas/WVU) that makes 18. So no expansion until we see what happens with the BIGXII.

I dont know why people think tech will go to The pac 12 they have no shot. Houston has a better shot at the pac 12 than tech does.

I am pretty sure those were the 4 negotiating to make the PAC16 several years ago. So not sure why you don't think it could happen since it almost did already.

Ya but that was before houston became really good again. Alot has changed since then. Not to mention that there has been rumors that OU would attempt to keep osu from following them to the pac.

Plus we all knew the whole PAC-16 was a bluff by OU that got called by Texas. So who knows who legitimate techs chance was actually.
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(04-23-2017 02:49 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:35 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:11 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 01:53 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 01:48 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  We are talking today and espn guaranteeing content until 2025. Nobody knows what will happen. Clearly espn doesn't want big 12 expansion. They paid for then not to expand.

They only paid them $10million dollars which is basically nothing since that comes out to $1 million per team.

So what makes it seem likely that espn is going to give us any significant amount of money?

The point is they paid money to not expand so no guarantee espn wants to fork over big money to expand in 8 years. Teams desiring to change conferences have little impact since espn controls expansion anyway. This is about guaranteed content and how bad espn needs us.

I'm personally one on the low side of the $$$. I think we get $3.5 to $4 million.

I agree its going to be low. But the fact that espn paid the big 12 pennies not to expand is bad news for us. How much they need us is up for debate but the fact that they were able stop Big 12 expansion for almost nothing means they will probably try to do the same thing with us.

Pennies? I think everyone here would love an extra million in the tv contract. The entire expansion was just to extort more out of espn. Everything is speculation now. Is there real bidders that want the aac? Espn can't lose the aac. They have a content problem for espnu and espn news if that happens.

Well regardless the big 12 did a crap job of extorting espn if that was really their goal. A one time payment of $10 mil to the conference is nothing they get they used to get more than that from the sugar bowl.

If there are no real bidders for the aac then thats even worse as espn can pay use whatever they want. If they need us that bad they are going to find a way to do it without spending a whole lot of money.
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(04-23-2017 02:55 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:49 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:35 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:11 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 01:53 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  They only paid them $10million dollars which is basically nothing since that comes out to $1 million per team.

So what makes it seem likely that espn is going to give us any significant amount of money?

The point is they paid money to not expand so no guarantee espn wants to fork over big money to expand in 8 years. Teams desiring to change conferences have little impact since espn controls expansion anyway. This is about guaranteed content and how bad espn needs us.

I'm personally one on the low side of the $$$. I think we get $3.5 to $4 million.

I agree its going to be low. But the fact that espn paid the big 12 pennies not to expand is bad news for us. How much they need us is up for debate but the fact that they were able stop Big 12 expansion for almost nothing means they will probably try to do the same thing with us.

Pennies? I think everyone here would love an extra million in the tv contract. The entire expansion was just to extort more out of espn. Everything is speculation now. Is there real bidders that want the aac? Espn can't lose the aac. They have a content problem for espnu and espn news if that happens.

Well regardless the big 12 did a crap job of extorting espn if that was really their goal. A one time payment of $10 mil to the conference is nothing they get they used to get more than that from the sugar bowl.

If there are no real bidders for the aac then thats even worse as espn can pay use whatever they want. If they need us that bad they are going to find a way to do it without spending a whole lot of money.

You can't say that $10 million dollars with zero return is nothing then on the other hand say that ESPN won't spend more to keep our rights. ESPN could end up with a giant programming hole for a number of years if they don't get us.
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(04-23-2017 02:40 PM)PT_american Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:31 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:27 PM)AusTxPony Wrote:  SMU's only hope for P5 status is if BIGXII implodes with Texas, TTech, OU, OSU leaving for PAC. I think SEC takes UWV and Kansas for Basketball. That leaves 4 for the American/BIGXII. With those and Army/Air Force (or Kansas/WVU) that makes 18. So no expansion until we see what happens with the BIGXII.

I dont know why people think tech will go to The pac 12 they have no shot. Houston has a better shot at the pac 12 than tech does.

I am pretty sure those were the 4 negotiating to make the PAC16 several years ago. So not sure why you don't think it could happen since it almost did already.


If it had happened last time, the Big East, as a BCS conference, would have picked up the remnants of the Big 12; next time around, the AAC will not have the power conference status it once had and the Big 12, as a power conference will gobble up 4 to 8 AAC teams; however, they too will lose their power status eventually, because their next TV contract will plummet just like the Big East's did, due to the same drastic change in (team) inventory.
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(04-22-2017 07:00 PM)AusTxPony Wrote:  Aren't Bowl game opponents up to the Bowl Committees? No matter what we are paid, the committees don't have to recognize a P6. I guess we could get a NY8 'guarantee' if that comes to fruition. The only benefit I see from more money is more money, period. Of course that helps. The only path to semi-parity I see is the breakup of the BigXII and them absorbing some of us or us absorbing all of the left overs and becoming P5th.

What we must do is position ourselves to make the NY6 bowl game 3 out of every 4 years. By doing this we set ourselves up for a potential shot at the national championship...not now...but when the playoffs expand to 8 teams.

Our goal should be to position ourselves for the next expansion in the playoffs, which will happen. We need to be in the conversation by promoting and performing (winning) when we are in the NY6 games. Do it often enough and get the media and fans talking about you. Then when the playoffs go to 8 teams, you have a chance at least to be in the conversation of having a spot. And I am not talking about the best of the G5 spot. I am talking about a guaranteed spot.

Of course if the Big12 implodes and there is only a P4, The AAC should definitely be in the mix for an expanded playoff. Money alone won't do it, but I don't see us getting more than 7-8 million/team in the next contract which will help.
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(04-23-2017 02:35 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:11 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 01:53 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 01:48 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 01:21 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  All fine an dandy except espn knows every team in the conference will bolt at the first chance to get into even a marginally better conference (see big 12). So why give money to a conference that none of the teams even want to really be a part of. Come 2024-25 this conference is going to lose alot of teams.

We are talking today and espn guaranteeing content until 2025. Nobody knows what will happen. Clearly espn doesn't want big 12 expansion. They paid for then not to expand.

They only paid them $10million dollars which is basically nothing since that comes out to $1 million per team.

So what makes it seem likely that espn is going to give us any significant amount of money?

The point is they paid money to not expand so no guarantee espn wants to fork over big money to expand in 8 years. Teams desiring to change conferences have little impact since espn controls expansion anyway. This is about guaranteed content and how bad espn needs us.

I'm personally one on the low side of the $$$. I think we get $3.5 to $4 million.

I agree its going to be low. But the fact that espn paid the big 12 pennies not to expand is bad news for us. How much they need us is up for debate but the fact that they were able stop Big 12 expansion for almost nothing means they will probably try to do the same thing with us.

Totally disagree with this ^^^ ... Remember when this league begun everyone was convince the AAC was all but dead... This isn't the case anymore, in fact the AAC has established itself quite solid now.

I'm confident the American will get much more respectable TV results next go around.
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(04-23-2017 03:01 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:55 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:49 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:35 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:11 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  The point is they paid money to not expand so no guarantee espn wants to fork over big money to expand in 8 years. Teams desiring to change conferences have little impact since espn controls expansion anyway. This is about guaranteed content and how bad espn needs us.

I'm personally one on the low side of the $$$. I think we get $3.5 to $4 million.

I agree its going to be low. But the fact that espn paid the big 12 pennies not to expand is bad news for us. How much they need us is up for debate but the fact that they were able stop Big 12 expansion for almost nothing means they will probably try to do the same thing with us.

Pennies? I think everyone here would love an extra million in the tv contract. The entire expansion was just to extort more out of espn. Everything is speculation now. Is there real bidders that want the aac? Espn can't lose the aac. They have a content problem for espnu and espn news if that happens.

Well regardless the big 12 did a crap job of extorting espn if that was really their goal. A one time payment of $10 mil to the conference is nothing they get they used to get more than that from the sugar bowl.

If there are no real bidders for the aac then thats even worse as espn can pay use whatever they want. If they need us that bad they are going to find a way to do it without spending a whole lot of money.

You can't say that $10 million dollars with zero return is nothing then on the other hand say that ESPN won't spend more to keep our rights. ESPN could end up with a giant programming hole for a number of years if they don't get us.
No...espn has plenty of programming...they got out of sports a long time ago and could easily add more stupid shows...if they lose the aac, which they w ont, it won't be a big deal to replace those hours on tv
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(04-23-2017 02:51 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Plus we all knew the whole PAC-16 was a bluff by OU that got called by Texas. So who knows who legitimate techs chance was actually.

I don't believe for one second that it was a bluff. I think the PAC 12 commissioner was dead serious about adding four schools and that it was UT's baggage that sunk the deal, and that A&M believed it was true, too, which was the final straw sending them to the SEC for good.

It's interesting that UT hired a president from a PAC 12 school - California - and just lost an AD that came from a PAC 12 school, Arizona State. I absolutely look for UT to take another swing at joining the PAC 12 when the next round comes up, and I am looking to see who the hire as the full-time AD after Perrin. If they grab another PAC 12 guy then that cements the idea, to me, that they want to be on the West Coast.

If that happens, if Texas leaves and presumably brings another school with them, then all bets are off. Most likely the American gets gutted at that point in order to save a dying Big XII.
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(04-23-2017 03:22 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:51 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Plus we all knew the whole PAC-16 was a bluff by OU that got called by Texas. So who knows who legitimate techs chance was actually.

I don't believe for one second that it was a bluff. I think the PAC 12 commissioner was dead serious about adding four schools and that it was UT's baggage that sunk the deal, and that A&M believed it was true, too, which was the final straw sending them to the SEC for good.

It's interesting that UT hired a president from a PAC 12 school - California - and just lost an AD that came from a PAC 12 school, Arizona State. I absolutely look for UT to take another swing at joining the PAC 12 when the next round comes up, and I am looking to see who the hire as the full-time AD after Perrin. If they grab another PAC 12 guy then that cements the idea, to me, that they want to be on the West Coast.

If that happens, if Texas leaves and presumably brings another school with them, then all bets are off. Most likely the American gets gutted at that point in order to save a dying Big XII.

Agree, goodbye Houston, SMU, Cincinnati, and Memphis.07-coffee3
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(04-23-2017 03:22 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:51 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Plus we all knew the whole PAC-16 was a bluff by OU that got called by Texas. So who knows who legitimate techs chance was actually.

I don't believe for one second that it was a bluff. I think the PAC 12 commissioner was dead serious about adding four schools and that it was UT's baggage that sunk the deal, and that A&M believed it was true, too, which was the final straw sending them to the SEC for good.

It's interesting that UT hired a president from a PAC 12 school - California - and just lost an AD that came from a PAC 12 school, Arizona State. I absolutely look for UT to take another swing at joining the PAC 12 when the next round comes up, and I am looking to see who the hire as the full-time AD after Perrin. If they grab another PAC 12 guy then that cements the idea, to me, that they want to be on the West Coast.

If that happens, if Texas leaves and presumably brings another school with them, then all bets are off. Most likely the American gets gutted at that point in order to save a dying Big XII.

That definitely makes sense and i agree with everything you just said. I think UT sunk the deal simply because they did not want to lose control over a conference they dominate.
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(04-23-2017 03:01 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:55 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:49 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:35 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:11 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  The point is they paid money to not expand so no guarantee espn wants to fork over big money to expand in 8 years. Teams desiring to change conferences have little impact since espn controls expansion anyway. This is about guaranteed content and how bad espn needs us.

I'm personally one on the low side of the $$$. I think we get $3.5 to $4 million.

I agree its going to be low. But the fact that espn paid the big 12 pennies not to expand is bad news for us. How much they need us is up for debate but the fact that they were able stop Big 12 expansion for almost nothing means they will probably try to do the same thing with us.

Pennies? I think everyone here would love an extra million in the tv contract. The entire expansion was just to extort more out of espn. Everything is speculation now. Is there real bidders that want the aac? Espn can't lose the aac. They have a content problem for espnu and espn news if that happens.

Well regardless the big 12 did a crap job of extorting espn if that was really their goal. A one time payment of $10 mil to the conference is nothing they get they used to get more than that from the sugar bowl.

If there are no real bidders for the aac then thats even worse as espn can pay use whatever they want. If they need us that bad they are going to find a way to do it without spending a whole lot of money.

You can't say that $10 million dollars with zero return is nothing then on the other hand say that ESPN won't spend more to keep our rights. ESPN could end up with a giant programming hole for a number of years if they don't get us.

^its already happened with us. 9 out of the 12 AAC teams are from CUSA. ESPN lived without us fine during those miserable TV days in CUSA. They lived without Navy too. Navy was on cbs-SN. So....that point is always interesting. They also lived without a very good MWC that had Utah, TCU, BYU from 2005 to 2012. I suppose ESPN had the WAC (Boise) to fall back on, and they don't anymore...I digress.
ESPN wasn't afraid to lose 100% of the fine content that CUSA and the MWC had to provide. I think we can all agree it was damn fine content they passed on.
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(04-23-2017 03:09 PM)TheShocker Wrote:  
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(04-23-2017 02:31 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:27 PM)AusTxPony Wrote:  SMU's only hope for P5 status is if BIGXII implodes with Texas, TTech, OU, OSU leaving for PAC. I think SEC takes UWV and Kansas for Basketball. That leaves 4 for the American/BIGXII. With those and Army/Air Force (or Kansas/WVU) that makes 18. So no expansion until we see what happens with the BIGXII.

I dont know why people think tech will go to The pac 12 they have no shot. Houston has a better shot at the pac 12 than tech does.

I am pretty sure those were the 4 negotiating to make the PAC16 several years ago. So not sure why you don't think it could happen since it almost did already.


If it had happened last time, the Big East, as a BCS conference, would have picked up the remnants of the Big 12; next time around, the AAC will not have the power conference status it once had and the Big 12, as a power conference will gobble up 4 to 8 AAC teams; however, they too will lose their power status eventually, because their next TV contract will plummet just like the Big East's did, due to the same drastic change in (team) inventory.

Well if Houston joins the big 12 3.0 it will be for the geography and close fanbases that drives the decision not so much the power status. But dont put it pst houston to do join even for the P5 status even if its temporary. Thats pretty much the only reason we joined the aac was for the power status even though the writing was on the wall that it was going to be taken.
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(04-23-2017 03:52 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
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(04-23-2017 02:49 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:35 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  I agree its going to be low. But the fact that espn paid the big 12 pennies not to expand is bad news for us. How much they need us is up for debate but the fact that they were able stop Big 12 expansion for almost nothing means they will probably try to do the same thing with us.

Pennies? I think everyone here would love an extra million in the tv contract. The entire expansion was just to extort more out of espn. Everything is speculation now. Is there real bidders that want the aac? Espn can't lose the aac. They have a content problem for espnu and espn news if that happens.

Well regardless the big 12 did a crap job of extorting espn if that was really their goal. A one time payment of $10 mil to the conference is nothing they get they used to get more than that from the sugar bowl.

If there are no real bidders for the aac then thats even worse as espn can pay use whatever they want. If they need us that bad they are going to find a way to do it without spending a whole lot of money.

You can't say that $10 million dollars with zero return is nothing then on the other hand say that ESPN won't spend more to keep our rights. ESPN could end up with a giant programming hole for a number of years if they don't get us.

^its already happened with us. 9 out of the 12 AAC teams are from CUSA. ESPN lived without us fine during those miserable TV days in CUSA. They lived without Navy too. Navy was on cbs-SN. So....that point is always interesting. They also lived without a very good MWC that had Utah, TCU, BYU from 2005 to 2012. I suppose ESPN had the WAC (Boise) to fall back on, and they don't anymore...I digress.
ESPN wasn't afraid to lose 100% of the fine content that CUSA and the MWC had to provide. I think we can all agree it was damn fine content they passed on.

Very good point billy i didnt think about that!
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(04-23-2017 03:01 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:55 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:49 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:35 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(04-23-2017 02:11 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  The point is they paid money to not expand so no guarantee espn wants to fork over big money to expand in 8 years. Teams desiring to change conferences have little impact since espn controls expansion anyway. This is about guaranteed content and how bad espn needs us.

I'm personally one on the low side of the $$$. I think we get $3.5 to $4 million.

I agree its going to be low. But the fact that espn paid the big 12 pennies not to expand is bad news for us. How much they need us is up for debate but the fact that they were able stop Big 12 expansion for almost nothing means they will probably try to do the same thing with us.

Pennies? I think everyone here would love an extra million in the tv contract. The entire expansion was just to extort more out of espn. Everything is speculation now. Is there real bidders that want the aac? Espn can't lose the aac. They have a content problem for espnu and espn news if that happens.

Well regardless the big 12 did a crap job of extorting espn if that was really their goal. A one time payment of $10 mil to the conference is nothing they get they used to get more than that from the sugar bowl.

If there are no real bidders for the aac then thats even worse as espn can pay use whatever they want. If they need us that bad they are going to find a way to do it without spending a whole lot of money.

You can't say that $10 million dollars with zero return is nothing then on the other hand say that ESPN won't spend more to keep our rights. ESPN could end up with a giant programming hole for a number of years if they don't get us.

Im not saying they wont pay us, I'm saying they will find a way to pay us the bare minimum. If espn really didn't want the big 12 to expand that badly then the big 12 should have been able to get them to pay alot more than $10 mil.

ESPN is going to find a way to keep us while paying as little as possible just like they did with big 12 expansion.
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If we can pull 8 million per team on the next contract, I think we have a viable shot at BYU and BSU.
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