(06-05-2017 07:17 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 06:51 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 05:55 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Over the last three years, the American Conference has placed 10 teams in the NCAA tournament.

Only one of those teams has done better than its seed: as a 3 seed last year, East Carolina made it to the round of 16 - two rounds farther than seeded.

I see your point, but IMO a term like "suckage" is putting it too harshly. AAC baseball isn't AAC basketball. Basketball has some established teams with long pedigrees, and a share of the Big East legacy, so when our teams bomb out by the round of 32, it makes sense to say we sucked because we should have higher expectations.

But AAC baseball is just getting off the ground. With the exception of Tulane and Houston, no individual schools have much of a baseball history, and the conference itself has none at all.

We're in building mode, so it's a good thing to put 3 teams in the tournament, even if they don't do well. In baseball, the same performance that in basketball is properly regarded as regression, counts as progress.

1) you misspelled 2nd round
2) it should've been 4. There was no reason, at all, to leave UCONN out of the tournament. I listed 3 teams that should've been left out in favor of UCONN, and no amount of spin from an incompetent selection chair will change my mind on that.

Well, unfortunately, no amount of you not changing your mind about that will retroactively put UConn into the tournament, LOL.

FWIW (nothing), I would have found space for UConn, but truth is, UConn was a borderline case, and when you are bubble/borderline, you can only blame yourself for not having done more.

(06-06-2017 06:38 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 07:17 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 06:51 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 05:55 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Over the last three years, the American Conference has placed 10 teams in the NCAA tournament.

Only one of those teams has done better than its seed: as a 3 seed last year, East Carolina made it to the round of 16 - two rounds farther than seeded.

I see your point, but IMO a term like "suckage" is putting it too harshly. AAC baseball isn't AAC basketball. Basketball has some established teams with long pedigrees, and a share of the Big East legacy, so when our teams bomb out by the round of 32, it makes sense to say we sucked because we should have higher expectations.

But AAC baseball is just getting off the ground. With the exception of Tulane and Houston, no individual schools have much of a baseball history, and the conference itself has none at all.

We're in building mode, so it's a good thing to put 3 teams in the tournament, even if they don't do well. In baseball, the same performance that in basketball is properly regarded as regression, counts as progress.

1) you misspelled 2nd round
2) it should've been 4. There was no reason, at all, to leave UCONN out of the tournament. I listed 3 teams that should've been left out in favor of UCONN, and no amount of spin from an incompetent selection chair will change my mind on that.

Well, unfortunately, no amount of you not changing your mind about that will retroactively put UConn into the tournament, LOL.

FWIW (nothing), I would have found space for UConn, but truth is, UConn was a borderline case, and when you are bubble/borderline, you can only blame yourself for not having done more.

To bring things full circle to what the OP is talking about...

UConn's unvitation could have something to do with our conference continuously proving that the teams are overrated going into the tournament. Based on this year's performance, don't be surprised if we have another team or two snubbed next year.

The conference is making good moves in baseball, but it does suck that we have 0 teams left in the tournament, especially in a year that we produced a 1-seed.

Disclaimer: Not to say that ECU would have done any better. We stunk it up this year.

(06-06-2017 06:38 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 07:17 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 06:51 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 05:55 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Over the last three years, the American Conference has placed 10 teams in the NCAA tournament.

Only one of those teams has done better than its seed: as a 3 seed last year, East Carolina made it to the round of 16 - two rounds farther than seeded.

I see your point, but IMO a term like "suckage" is putting it too harshly. AAC baseball isn't AAC basketball. Basketball has some established teams with long pedigrees, and a share of the Big East legacy, so when our teams bomb out by the round of 32, it makes sense to say we sucked because we should have higher expectations.

But AAC baseball is just getting off the ground. With the exception of Tulane and Houston, no individual schools have much of a baseball history, and the conference itself has none at all.

We're in building mode, so it's a good thing to put 3 teams in the tournament, even if they don't do well. In baseball, the same performance that in basketball is properly regarded as regression, counts as progress.

1) you misspelled 2nd round
2) it should've been 4. There was no reason, at all, to leave UCONN out of the tournament. I listed 3 teams that should've been left out in favor of UCONN, and no amount of spin from an incompetent selection chair will change my mind on that.

Well, unfortunately, no amount of you not changing your mind about that will retroactively put UConn into the tournament, LOL.

FWIW (nothing), I would have found space for UConn, but truth is, UConn was a borderline case, and when you are bubble/borderline, you can only blame yourself for not having done more.

We were not a borderline/bubble team. Your post hoc spin doesn't change that fact. We had a higher RPI rating than 2 at-large teams, and the only reason we were left out was because those 2 schools were P5.

We did everything short of winning the conf tournament to earn a selection.

(06-06-2017 08:16 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 06:38 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 07:17 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 06:51 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 05:55 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Over the last three years, the American Conference has placed 10 teams in the NCAA tournament.

Only one of those teams has done better than its seed: as a 3 seed last year, East Carolina made it to the round of 16 - two rounds farther than seeded.

I see your point, but IMO a term like "suckage" is putting it too harshly. AAC baseball isn't AAC basketball. Basketball has some established teams with long pedigrees, and a share of the Big East legacy, so when our teams bomb out by the round of 32, it makes sense to say we sucked because we should have higher expectations.

But AAC baseball is just getting off the ground. With the exception of Tulane and Houston, no individual schools have much of a baseball history, and the conference itself has none at all.

We're in building mode, so it's a good thing to put 3 teams in the tournament, even if they don't do well. In baseball, the same performance that in basketball is properly regarded as regression, counts as progress.

1) you misspelled 2nd round
2) it should've been 4. There was no reason, at all, to leave UCONN out of the tournament. I listed 3 teams that should've been left out in favor of UCONN, and no amount of spin from an incompetent selection chair will change my mind on that.

Well, unfortunately, no amount of you not changing your mind about that will retroactively put UConn into the tournament, LOL.

FWIW (nothing), I would have found space for UConn, but truth is, UConn was a borderline case, and when you are bubble/borderline, you can only blame yourself for not having done more.

We were not a borderline/bubble team. Your post hoc spin doesn't change that fact. We had a higher RPI rating than 2 at-large teams, and the only reason we were left out was because those 2 schools were P5.

We did everything short of winning the conf tournament to earn a selection.

If you had the 3rd-lowest RPI compared to at-large teams, then you were definitely borderline.

And according to RPI on the NCAA's website, Ole Miss was ranked 1 spot ahead of you with a nearly identical W-L record and also missed the tournament: http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/baseball/d1/rpi

(06-06-2017 01:11 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 08:16 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 06:38 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 07:17 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 06:51 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  I see your point, but IMO a term like "suckage" is putting it too harshly. AAC baseball isn't AAC basketball. Basketball has some established teams with long pedigrees, and a share of the Big East legacy, so when our teams bomb out by the round of 32, it makes sense to say we sucked because we should have higher expectations.

But AAC baseball is just getting off the ground. With the exception of Tulane and Houston, no individual schools have much of a baseball history, and the conference itself has none at all.

We're in building mode, so it's a good thing to put 3 teams in the tournament, even if they don't do well. In baseball, the same performance that in basketball is properly regarded as regression, counts as progress.

1) you misspelled 2nd round
2) it should've been 4. There was no reason, at all, to leave UCONN out of the tournament. I listed 3 teams that should've been left out in favor of UCONN, and no amount of spin from an incompetent selection chair will change my mind on that.

Well, unfortunately, no amount of you not changing your mind about that will retroactively put UConn into the tournament, LOL.

FWIW (nothing), I would have found space for UConn, but truth is, UConn was a borderline case, and when you are bubble/borderline, you can only blame yourself for not having done more.

We were not a borderline/bubble team. Your post hoc spin doesn't change that fact. We had a higher RPI rating than 2 at-large teams, and the only reason we were left out was because those 2 schools were P5.

We did everything short of winning the conf tournament to earn a selection.

If you had the 3rd-lowest RPI compared to at-large teams, then you were definitely borderline.

And according to RPI on the NCAA's website, Ole Miss was ranked 1 spot ahead of you with a nearly identical W-L record and also missed the tournament: http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/baseball/d1/rpi

That should make him feel better.

(06-06-2017 01:11 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 08:16 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 06:38 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 07:17 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(06-05-2017 06:51 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  I see your point, but IMO a term like "suckage" is putting it too harshly. AAC baseball isn't AAC basketball. Basketball has some established teams with long pedigrees, and a share of the Big East legacy, so when our teams bomb out by the round of 32, it makes sense to say we sucked because we should have higher expectations.

But AAC baseball is just getting off the ground. With the exception of Tulane and Houston, no individual schools have much of a baseball history, and the conference itself has none at all.

We're in building mode, so it's a good thing to put 3 teams in the tournament, even if they don't do well. In baseball, the same performance that in basketball is properly regarded as regression, counts as progress.

1) you misspelled 2nd round
2) it should've been 4. There was no reason, at all, to leave UCONN out of the tournament. I listed 3 teams that should've been left out in favor of UCONN, and no amount of spin from an incompetent selection chair will change my mind on that.

Well, unfortunately, no amount of you not changing your mind about that will retroactively put UConn into the tournament, LOL.

FWIW (nothing), I would have found space for UConn, but truth is, UConn was a borderline case, and when you are bubble/borderline, you can only blame yourself for not having done more.

We were not a borderline/bubble team. Your post hoc spin doesn't change that fact. We had a higher RPI rating than 2 at-large teams, and the only reason we were left out was because those 2 schools were P5.

We did everything short of winning the conf tournament to earn a selection.

If you had the 3rd-lowest RPI compared to at-large teams, then you were definitely borderline.

And according to RPI on the NCAA's website, Ole Miss was ranked 1 spot ahead of you with a nearly identical W-L record and also missed the tournament: http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/baseball/d1/rpi

Actually we were the 4th lowest. UCLA was worse than us, as well. But why that pesky little fact get in the way of your wonderful story. Not to mention that St Johns and Michigan were 2 and 3 spots ahead of us and sucked...hard. I'm telling you they had no business being in the tournament. UCONN would've fared better than those 2 teams.