(04-18-2017 08:38 PM)correcamino Wrote:  

(04-18-2017 10:45 AM)Eagleholic Wrote:  Frank Wilson spent 1 year at Southern Miss under Fedora. Rumors quickly began to spread surrounding his means of recruiting. Many felt that we were lucky that he quickly moved on.

UTSA fans, just be hopeful that he doesn't upset the wrong program(s) with his recruiting. Ole Miss did just that, and the NCAA has been living in Oxford for a few years now.

What does that even mean? USM is dirt poor so he sure as hell wasn't providing recruits the usual incentives that big P5 programs who cheat provide. No recruiting violations to his name at any of his stops, yet we're supposed to be shaking in our boots about the path he'll lead UTSA down because of some rumors a couple salty USM fans heard almost a decade ago.

We might be dirt poor but 10 years from now you guys wont be a blip on the screen and southern miss will still be the measuring stick for whatever league we are in.
Im still laughing about when utsa got "their hooks" in our recruiting grounds

(04-18-2017 09:31 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(04-18-2017 08:38 PM)correcamino Wrote:  

(04-18-2017 10:45 AM)Eagleholic Wrote:  Frank Wilson spent 1 year at Southern Miss under Fedora. Rumors quickly began to spread surrounding his means of recruiting. Many felt that we were lucky that he quickly moved on.

UTSA fans, just be hopeful that he doesn't upset the wrong program(s) with his recruiting. Ole Miss did just that, and the NCAA has been living in Oxford for a few years now.

What does that even mean? USM is dirt poor so he sure as hell wasn't providing recruits the usual incentives that big P5 programs who cheat provide. No recruiting violations to his name at any of his stops, yet we're supposed to be shaking in our boots about the path he'll lead UTSA down because of some rumors a couple salty USM fans heard almost a decade ago.

We might be dirt poor but 10 years from now you guys wont be a blip on the screen and southern miss will still be the measuring stick for whatever league we are in.
Im still laughing about when utsa got "their hooks" in our recruiting grounds

Neat.

The measuring stick, lol.

The only thing about UTSA football under Frank Wilson that matters to me....

UTSA 55 USM 32

Exactly

(04-18-2017 11:21 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  The only thing about UTSA football under Frank Wilson that matters to me....

UTSA 55 USM 32

Frank and his staff (coming off a bye week) coached circles around Hop and his staff that game in San Antonio. And it is set up to happen again this season as USM travels to UTSA and the Roadrunners have a bye week to prepare.

I was pleasantly surprised with the job Wilson and his staff did last year. I expecting something more closer to the Larry Porter experience in Memphis (but not quite that bad).

Don't you just love your fans that side with the opponents instead of just keeping their mouth shut...priceless

(04-19-2017 09:29 AM)Eagleholic Wrote:  

(04-18-2017 11:21 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  The only thing about UTSA football under Frank Wilson that matters to me....

UTSA 55 USM 32

Frank and his staff (coming off a bye week) coached circles around Hop and his staff that game in San Antonio. And it is set up to happen again this season as USM travels to UTSA and the Roadrunners have a bye week to prepare.

I was pleasantly surprised with the job Wilson and his staff did last year. I expecting something more closer to the Larry Porter experience in Memphis (but not quite that bad).

We'll take what we can get because after our extra week to prepare for you guys, we face UNT, Rice, and UTEP consecutively, all of whom will be coming off their bye weeks for their games against us.

(04-19-2017 10:41 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  Don't you just love your fans that side with the opponents instead of just keeping their mouth shut...priceless

Grow up. Some of us are adults and don't act like ten year olds.

(04-19-2017 12:06 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(04-19-2017 09:29 AM)Eagleholic Wrote:  

(04-18-2017 11:21 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  The only thing about UTSA football under Frank Wilson that matters to me....

UTSA 55 USM 32

Frank and his staff (coming off a bye week) coached circles around Hop and his staff that game in San Antonio. And it is set up to happen again this season as USM travels to UTSA and the Roadrunners have a bye week to prepare.

I was pleasantly surprised with the job Wilson and his staff did last year. I expecting something more closer to the Larry Porter experience in Memphis (but not quite that bad).

We'll take what we can get because after our extra week to prepare for you guys, we face UNT, Rice, and UTEP consecutively, all of whom will be coming off their bye weeks for their games against us.

UNT should be decent, but Rice and UTEP don't even have a pulse any more.

(04-22-2017 11:30 AM)Luckyshot Wrote:  

(04-19-2017 12:06 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(04-19-2017 09:29 AM)Eagleholic Wrote:  

(04-18-2017 11:21 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  The only thing about UTSA football under Frank Wilson that matters to me....

UTSA 55 USM 32

Frank and his staff (coming off a bye week) coached circles around Hop and his staff that game in San Antonio. And it is set up to happen again this season as USM travels to UTSA and the Roadrunners have a bye week to prepare.

I was pleasantly surprised with the job Wilson and his staff did last year. I expecting something more closer to the Larry Porter experience in Memphis (but not quite that bad).

We'll take what we can get because after our extra week to prepare for you guys, we face UNT, Rice, and UTEP consecutively, all of whom will be coming off their bye weeks for their games against us.

UNT should be decent, but Rice and UTEP don't even have a pulse any more.

You guys lost to a 4-8 Charlotte squad last year after Charlotte's bye week.
And we played both UTEP and Rice after their bye weeks last year also; losing to UTEP in OT, and barely beating Rice. So it's probably not wise to underestimate. Besides, those are Texas rivalry games for us and so that adds another element to it anyway.

(04-15-2017 04:45 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 03:43 PM)JBeagle Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 01:28 PM)Irish Rowdy Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 12:08 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  If he didnt cheat, frank would not have hired him

lol, sounds like someone who's team lost to Frank Wilson.

No, it sounds like someone who knows Frank Wilson. If UTSA is lucky, they will win quickly and he will be hired away before his sleazebag tactics get them in big trouble. I've been following this jerk for many years and the list of slimy stuff he's pulled is long.

Do share then.

Old Frank was told to hit the road at USM supposedly because of what he was doing recruiting (and no not giving out money). He saw it coming and how he handled himself in the last couple of months while he was employed at USM was disgusting. There are many rumors over the years I have heard of what he has done too. A newspaper in Louisana printed a story while he was at LSU how he would meet recruits in August when they showed up at the dorm who had signed LOI's and thought they had scholarships. He would tell them and their parents that there was no place for the kid at LSU. (LSU had oversigned) Real class. Wouldn't even take the time to call them before they left to drive to LSU, much less give them time to find another school. There were high school coaches quoted in the article that said they would never allow LSU on their campus because of him.

(04-23-2017 06:06 PM)JBeagle Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 04:45 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 03:43 PM)JBeagle Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 01:28 PM)Irish Rowdy Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 12:08 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  If he didnt cheat, frank would not have hired him

lol, sounds like someone who's team lost to Frank Wilson.

No, it sounds like someone who knows Frank Wilson. If UTSA is lucky, they will win quickly and he will be hired away before his sleazebag tactics get them in big trouble. I've been following this jerk for many years and the list of slimy stuff he's pulled is long.

Do share then.

Old Frank was told to hit the road at USM supposedly because of what he was doing recruiting (and no not giving out money). He saw it coming and how he handled himself in the last couple of months while he was employed at USM was disgusting. There are many rumors over the years I have heard of what he has done too. A newspaper in Louisana printed a story while he was at LSU how he would meet recruits in August when they showed up at the dorm who had signed LOI's and thought they had scholarships. He would tell them and their parents that there was no place for the kid at LSU. (LSU had oversigned) Real class. Wouldn't even take the time to call them before they left to drive to LSU, much less give them time to find another school. There were high school coaches quoted in the article that said they would never allow LSU on their campus because of him.

I don't necessarily buy what you're saying about USM firing him because of stuff he was doing, but I also don't automatically dismiss the possibility that it's true.

I also don't necessarily buy what you said you read in a newspaper years ago either, but likewise won't automatically discount the possibility of that being true. Let's assume for a moment though that it's true what you said about him telling recruits after the fact that LSU had over-signed, and that he just sent them home instead of calling them ahead of time. How do you know he's responsible? Maybe Les Miles made those decisions after the fact, and Frank Wilson was the one instructed to break the bad news. Maybe Frank Wilson even volunteered to be that person because of the relationship he had with those recruits.

Mind you, I've seen nothing, NOTHING, bad about him, from the moment we hired him well over a year ago, until now. I've seen only glowing remarks about him, especially with regard to his relationships with recruits and players, and how he treats others in general. I'm also fully aware that sometimes things don't come out until years later, but I'm going to withhold judgement for now.

On a sidenote, I'm a middle school teacher in Houston, and the principal we had last year was really excited about him going to UTSA because Coach Wilson and her husband are best friends who grew up together in Louisiana. Granted her opinion would be biased, but she had nothing but great things to say about him and his character, as well as his family.

At any rate, hope it's not true, and if it is, I certainly hope he has turned the corner.

(04-23-2017 10:25 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 06:06 PM)JBeagle Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 04:45 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 03:43 PM)JBeagle Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 01:28 PM)Irish Rowdy Wrote:  lol, sounds like someone who's team lost to Frank Wilson.

No, it sounds like someone who knows Frank Wilson. If UTSA is lucky, they will win quickly and he will be hired away before his sleazebag tactics get them in big trouble. I've been following this jerk for many years and the list of slimy stuff he's pulled is long.

Do share then.

Old Frank was told to hit the road at USM supposedly because of what he was doing recruiting (and no not giving out money). He saw it coming and how he handled himself in the last couple of months while he was employed at USM was disgusting. There are many rumors over the years I have heard of what he has done too. A newspaper in Louisana printed a story while he was at LSU how he would meet recruits in August when they showed up at the dorm who had signed LOI's and thought they had scholarships. He would tell them and their parents that there was no place for the kid at LSU. (LSU had oversigned) Real class. Wouldn't even take the time to call them before they left to drive to LSU, much less give them time to find another school. There were high school coaches quoted in the article that said they would never allow LSU on their campus because of him.

I don't necessarily buy what you're saying about USM firing him because of stuff he was doing, but I also don't automatically dismiss the possibility that it's true.

I also don't necessarily buy what you said you read in a newspaper years ago either, but likewise won't automatically discount the possibility of that being true. Let's assume for a moment though that it's true what you said about him telling recruits after the fact that LSU had over-signed, and that he just sent them home instead of calling them ahead of time. How do you know he's responsible? Maybe Les Miles made those decisions after the fact, and Frank Wilson was the one instructed to break the bad news. Maybe Frank Wilson even volunteered to be that person because of the relationship he had with those recruits.

Mind you, I've seen nothing, NOTHING, bad about him, from the moment we hired him well over a year ago, until now. I've seen only glowing remarks about him, especially with regard to his relationships with recruits and players, and how he treats others in general. I'm also fully aware that sometimes things don't come out until years later, but I'm going to withhold judgement for now.

On a sidenote, I'm a middle school teacher in Houston, and the principal we had last year was really excited about him going to UTSA because Coach Wilson and her husband are best friends who grew up together in Louisiana. Granted her opinion would be biased, but she had nothing but great things to say about him and his character, as well as his family.

At any rate, hope it's not true, and if it is, I certainly hope he has turned the corner.

I'll grant you that it might have been Les Miles who was responsible for oversigning and who sent him out to tell the recruits to go back home. The bottom line is that Frank is the one who told the kids to go back home. The old excuse that it was my job does not cut it. It goes to what type of character a man has. And the stories I've heard and the slimy things he has done in recruiting over the years about that man are many. I like UTSA. I hope you do well fast and he gets hired somewhere else before the hammer falls. He can get away with a lot of crap at LSU, but not at UTSA.

Recruiting is a ruthless business. I am not surprised one bit by anything & I expect it from90% of the schools. It's not going to get better it's only going to get worse, especially as money increases.

Regardless Frank has an opportunity which he put himself in to move up to a big payday. If he is successful at UTSA and has a breakout season...you'll see a ton of bigger programs calling & they won't be looking at him over signing or reports of what happened while at USM. They'll look at his recruiter of the year awards, his relationships with Leonard Fournette, The honey badger, etc. and his record at UTSA. So far he's moving our program in the right direction. We just need a breakout season & a good QB.

Once again, a school that hired Donnie Tyndall has no business attacking other schools for their hire. Tyndall destroyed our basketball program and should have never been hired given his history with the NCAA. Even after hiring Tyndall USM let him run wild breaking NCAA rules.

(04-24-2017 02:06 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  Once again, a school that hired Donnie Tyndall has no business attacking other schools for their hire. Tyndall destroyed our basketball program and should have never been hired given his history with the NCAA. Even after hiring Tyndall USM let him run wild breaking NCAA rules.

I'm as disgusted as anyone with Donnie Tyndall and think he is the worst of the worst. He pretended he was something he was not. Tyndall does not know the meaning of the word truth. However, you are way off base saying USM "let Tyndall run wild." Tyndall and his coaches were responsible for what he did. And we paid the price. And yes, any school has to pay the price for what a coach does.