(03-26-2017 10:45 AM)Chappy Wrote:  

(03-26-2017 05:49 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(03-25-2017 04:21 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  Miller is a good coach. I think he wanted the OSU job but they kept Matta and IU made him an offer he couldn't refuse.

I want to see who the Flyers get now. Their neighbors Xavier and their kind of neighbors Butler have had success with finding good young coaches. Maybe try and snag one of their assistants. Bill Murrays kid maybe? haha

Honestly, as screwed up as it would be, Tom Crean would be a good candidate for Dayton to look at...

Solid recruiting ties already in place. Won at Marquette, which is a similar school.

It won't happen, but it kinda makes sense.

That would probably work out well for Dayton.

Or maybe Crean could get 750k to stay on as associate HC at Indiana for a year.

lol.

(03-26-2017 09:18 AM)bluesox Wrote:  Great hire by IU,
. I do wonder how long Alford last at ucla, first so so season and he will be in hot water.

This season was sweet 16, last season (2016) UCLA had a losing record under Alford. Worse than so so

(03-26-2017 08:57 AM)virgosports Wrote:  

(03-25-2017 05:07 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-25-2017 05:01 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(03-25-2017 03:51 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Should have hired the Wichita coach.

Maybe he turned them down.

Sure, you're gonna skip a B1G blue-blood to stay at .... Wichita State. Right.

Marshall has to know he's peaked at WSU. Since making the Final 4 in 2013, he's won 30, not 20, but *30* games, three of those four years. And yet he's only advanced beyond the round of 32 one of those times, and that run stopped at the Sweet 16.

He's smart, he wants to win a national title. By now, he's surely realized that, as Nick Saban once said about one of his earlier jobs, "you can't win a national title from Wichita State". And Saban said that about a Big 10 job!

You can't, because if it could be done, he woulda done it by now. If he stays, he knows what the next seasons are going to look like: win 30 games, win your first or second NCAA tournament games, then face a Kentucky team with 3 guys who will be playing in the NBA next year, and lose.

He'll leave.

Similar stuff has been said about Gonzaga's Few while he was out after the sweet sixteen or the second round many times and yet he is here at the final four. I will agree that it is easier to win at a blue blood then not, however, wichita's coach has been saying no before and most probably indicated to Indiana that he will not take their job. If that's not the case and Indiana did not even consider him then it was a mistake on their part, in my opinion.

Yeah, and for both, I don't think they think they are too good for the school to turn them down, but that they see themselves an improper match, no matter how much money is in that sack with the dollar sign on it.

Few and Marshall can do what they want to do and build how they want to build, achieving as they want to all along the way. They don't need a school, some donors, and fans who probably couldn't even get admitted into the school telling them how they should be doing that. Where they are are happy to have them, and will do what they can to give them what they want and build as they can. Why is that so beneath them, or anyone, really?

To hear it from the Harbaughs after their side of Crean's experience, you can have the Indiana's, UCLA's, and Kentucky's of basketball. Take it all with you. No amount of money is worth having your kids getting insulted by strangers, juveniles or grown adults. And there is nothing but red flags when you have people in the pipeline at that school would think that a former coach for another Indiana school who traded up for THE NBA's legacy franchise would leave that organization, like a stepping stone, for Hoosier basketball. While he's succeeding there, no less. If that's Indiana and their culture...Marshall would be insane to trade his black and yellow wardrobe for red and white.

For Archie, I wouldn't be surprised if Dayton sat there waiting for him to say he was taking offers just to remind him of his 0-3 finish, and who he lost to in his final game as a Dayton coach. Yeah, Dayton finds its way to the top of the A10, but this is still a team that putters out. And they can lose to bad teams, too. The A10 is going to miss him and his teams, but I sincerely hope he can get a good and fast start there out in Bloomington. That place will more than easily remind him that they're entitled to not just Big Ten champions, but so much more. And he is going to have to deliver and know that even if he does, it might not be good enough.

I'm starting to wonder if the reason for Scott Nagy's bizarre move to Wright State was because he wanted the Dayton job and felt he had a better shot if he already lived in the area.

(03-26-2017 09:18 AM)bluesox Wrote:  Great hire by IU,
. I do wonder how long Alford last at ucla, first so so season and he will be in hot water.

He's had one already, as mentioned above. He knows he could be canned at any time. The coach before him, Howland, made 3 straight final fours and was fired. The coach before that, Lavin, made 5 sweet 16s in 6 years and was fired.

I think at first Indiana AD wanted an Indiana Guy but they hired a firm to help them find the new coach. I really believe that they laid the resumes on the table and Archie Miller's probably really stood out. Indiana's Representative spoke to Archie in Indy after their loss to Wichita State. So he was very high on list from beginning. Of the realistic choices Archie Miller and Gregg Marshall in my mind seemed like good fits and proven winners!