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RE: JT III out at Georgetown...
JT3, come to SB. A fresh start out west is all you need,
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RE: JT III out at Georgetown...
(03-24-2017 12:44 PM)Wolfman Wrote: Rumor has it that Marshall has thrown out $5 million as the starting point for negotiations. Most AD and others think that is a lot of money for a coach with 1 final four and 0 national championships. In 19 years he has made it past the opening weekend of the NCAAT twice (1 FF, 1 S16). 9 of those years were at Winthrop but still...
I don't know who is out there but Georgetown will be fine.
Do you think that's intentional because he doesn't like the process, and only wants the most serious candidates to find him?
He's very deliberate about what he does. He could have left Winthrop much earlier than he did, and at this point...who's going to treat him like a rock star anywhere else?
My guess is, if he leaves Wichita, and it isn't for the pros, it's back to a Carolina or Virginia school.
Clemson?
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RE: JT III out at Georgetown...
(03-24-2017 01:58 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote: (03-24-2017 12:44 PM)Wolfman Wrote: Rumor has it that Marshall has thrown out $5 million as the starting point for negotiations. Most AD and others think that is a lot of money for a coach with 1 final four and 0 national championships. In 19 years he has made it past the opening weekend of the NCAAT twice (1 FF, 1 S16). 9 of those years were at Winthrop but still...
I don't know who is out there but Georgetown will be fine.
Do you think that's intentional because he doesn't like the process, and only wants the most serious candidates to find him?
He's very deliberate about what he does. He could have left Winthrop much earlier than he did, and at this point...who's going to treat him like a rock star anywhere else?
My guess is, if he leaves Wichita, and it isn't for the pros, it's back to a Carolina or Virginia school.
Clemson?
I highly doubt it. People I know who know him say he grew up a diehard Gamecock. He coveted that job but evidently has some enemies there behind the scenes and thus those bridges are burned.
These same people also say that the only two jobs they foresee Marshall coming back this way for are in Durham and Chapel Hill.
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RE: JT III out at Georgetown...
(03-24-2017 12:27 PM)_C2_ Wrote: I wouldn't love to live in Washington but I'd love to live in Northern Virginia or Southern Maryland. Also, Greg's gotta to be one of the biggest celebrities in Wichita. In Washington, he'd be a nobody, even if he won a national title or two.
If he won a national title at GT he'd be huge in DC. The city hasn't won anything since 1992.
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RE: JT III out at Georgetown...
(03-24-2017 12:27 PM)_C2_ Wrote: I wouldn't love to live in Washington but I'd love to live in Northern Virginia or Southern Maryland. Also, Greg's gotta to be one of the biggest celebrities in Wichita. In Washington, he'd be a nobody, even if he won a national title or two.
Not so, college hoops is taken seriously in DC. When GT and MD won titles in 84 and 02, it was huge news in the city.
BTW, when i said "live in DC" i didn't mean specifically in the city, although there are many beautiful places to live there, i meant the DC area, which included NOVA and MD.
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RE: JT III out at Georgetown...
(03-24-2017 12:20 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (03-24-2017 08:07 AM)mturn017 Wrote: (03-24-2017 07:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote: Should have happened a LONG time ago.
We should hire Gregg Marshall.
He's making 3.3 million at WSU while JT III makes 3.6 at Georgetown. I'd say 3.3 probably goes further in KS than 3.6 does in DC. It's not all about money but it's something.
Would you rather live in Washington DC, one of the best places in the country to live, or Wichita, Kansas? Plus his wife's antics would fit right in there, eh?
It's not everything, but it's something.
Wichita, 7 days a week and twice on Sundays.
DC is one of the most dangerous and desperate places in the country. It's great to visit, but as for living there? Much like my current city (San Diego) DC is a cesspool that's full of drug addicts, slums, and people who are forced to live on the streets because the city essentially forbids the construction of new homes.
Northern VA is nice though, if you can afford it and don't mind the traffic.
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RE: JT III out at Georgetown...
(03-24-2017 01:58 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote: (03-24-2017 12:44 PM)Wolfman Wrote: Rumor has it that Marshall has thrown out $5 million as the starting point for negotiations. Most AD and others think that is a lot of money for a coach with 1 final four and 0 national championships. In 19 years he has made it past the opening weekend of the NCAAT twice (1 FF, 1 S16). 9 of those years were at Winthrop but still...
I don't know who is out there but Georgetown will be fine.
Do you think that's intentional because he doesn't like the process, and only wants the most serious candidates to find him?
He's very deliberate about what he does. He could have left Winthrop much earlier than he did, and at this point...who's going to treat him like a rock star anywhere else?
My guess is, if he leaves Wichita, and it isn't for the pros, it's back to a Carolina or Virginia school.
Clemson?
I don't know if he likes the process but my money says he likes the attention and he uses it on the recruiting trail.
I don't think it is a very good strategy. It's one thing to say, "I'm happy where I am." It's another to say, "You will have to increase my salary by a minimum of 50% before we can even begin to talk."
I don't think a blue blood school will shell out $5 million for a coach that hasn't proved he can win at the highest level.
I also don't know how long WSU can afford him. His salary by itself is 12% of their entire athletic department revenue.
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RE: JT III out at Georgetown...
(03-24-2017 06:33 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote: (03-24-2017 12:20 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (03-24-2017 08:07 AM)mturn017 Wrote: (03-24-2017 07:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote: Should have happened a LONG time ago.
We should hire Gregg Marshall.
He's making 3.3 million at WSU while JT III makes 3.6 at Georgetown. I'd say 3.3 probably goes further in KS than 3.6 does in DC. It's not all about money but it's something.
Would you rather live in Washington DC, one of the best places in the country to live, or Wichita, Kansas? Plus his wife's antics would fit right in there, eh?
It's not everything, but it's something.
Wichita, 7 days a week and twice on Sundays.
DC is one of the most dangerous and desperate places in the country. It's great to visit, but as for living there? Much like my current city (San Diego) DC is a cesspool that's full of drug addicts, slums, and people who are forced to live on the streets because the city essentially forbids the construction of new homes.
Northern VA is nice though, if you can afford it and don't mind the traffic.
Have you been to DC in the last ten years? The place is flooded with yuppies and new expensive condos. What are you talking about?
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RE: JT III out at Georgetown...
(03-24-2017 03:56 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (03-24-2017 12:27 PM)_C2_ Wrote: I wouldn't love to live in Washington but I'd love to live in Northern Virginia or Southern Maryland. Also, Greg's gotta to be one of the biggest celebrities in Wichita. In Washington, he'd be a nobody, even if he won a national title or two.
Not so, college hoops is taken seriously in DC. When GT and MD won titles in 84 and 02, it was huge news in the city.
BTW, when i said "live in DC" i didn't mean specifically in the city, although there are many beautiful places to live there, i meant the DC area, which included NOVA and MD.
No sh!t. National champions or national championship contenders are popular. Who knew? The pecking order in DC is the Redskins, the Redskins, any other pro team having a random great year and the Redskins. The sea of empty seats at the Verizon Center when the Hoyas aren't in the top 25 is the best evidence of how "seriously" DC takes college hoops.
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RE: JT III out at Georgetown...
(03-24-2017 06:33 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote: (03-24-2017 12:20 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (03-24-2017 08:07 AM)mturn017 Wrote: (03-24-2017 07:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote: Should have happened a LONG time ago.
We should hire Gregg Marshall.
He's making 3.3 million at WSU while JT III makes 3.6 at Georgetown. I'd say 3.3 probably goes further in KS than 3.6 does in DC. It's not all about money but it's something.
Would you rather live in Washington DC, one of the best places in the country to live, or Wichita, Kansas? Plus his wife's antics would fit right in there, eh?
It's not everything, but it's something.
Wichita, 7 days a week and twice on Sundays.
DC is one of the most dangerous and desperate places in the country. It's great to visit, but as for living there? Much like my current city (San Diego) DC is a cesspool that's full of drug addicts, slums, and people who are forced to live on the streets because the city essentially forbids the construction of new homes.
Northern VA is nice though, if you can afford it and don't mind the traffic.
You have a 30+ year old conception of life in DC.
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RE: JT III out at Georgetown...
The Indiana job needs to be filled before there's movement at the top: that's a true blue blood mega-job that can afford any price. The fact that they haven't hired someone yet points to them targeting someone that's still coaching in the NCAA Tournament (such as Marshall or Chris Mack) or, in the case of Steve Alford, someone just eliminated. Once the Indiana job is filled, we'll then have a clearer picture for Georgetown.
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RE: JT III out at Georgetown...
Hard to see Marshall at gtown but IU would work. If you have the big money these guys would get, D.C. Would be an awesome place to live.
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RE: JT III out at Georgetown...
(03-25-2017 09:21 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote: The Indiana job needs to be filled before there's movement at the top: that's a true blue blood mega-job that can afford any price. The fact that they haven't hired someone yet points to them targeting someone that's still coaching in the NCAA Tournament (such as Marshall or Chris Mack) or, in the case of Steve Alford, someone just eliminated. Once the Indiana job is filled, we'll then have a clearer picture for Georgetown.
I don't think that the two jobs are related to one another, as both schools appear to be looking at different candidates for their respective positions. For Georgetown, the names tossed around are Tommy Amaker, Shaka Smart, Mike Brey, Patrick Ewing, Richard Pitino, Tom Crean, and Danny Hurley. For Indiana,I don't think they would be interested in any of those candidates - especially Tom Crean, since they just fired him.
I think Indiana ends up with Archie Miller, personally. We shall see.
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RE: JT III out at Georgetown...
(03-25-2017 09:21 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote: The Indiana job needs to be filled before there's movement at the top: that's a true blue blood mega-job that can afford any price. The fact that they haven't hired someone yet points to them targeting someone that's still coaching in the NCAA Tournament (such as Marshall or Chris Mack) or, in the case of Steve Alford, someone just eliminated. Once the Indiana job is filled, we'll then have a clearer picture for Georgetown.
Done. Archie Miller is at IU.
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RE: JT III out at Georgetown...
(03-24-2017 06:33 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote: (03-24-2017 12:20 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (03-24-2017 08:07 AM)mturn017 Wrote: (03-24-2017 07:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote: Should have happened a LONG time ago.
We should hire Gregg Marshall.
He's making 3.3 million at WSU while JT III makes 3.6 at Georgetown. I'd say 3.3 probably goes further in KS than 3.6 does in DC. It's not all about money but it's something.
Would you rather live in Washington DC, one of the best places in the country to live, or Wichita, Kansas? Plus his wife's antics would fit right in there, eh?
It's not everything, but it's something.
Wichita, 7 days a week and twice on Sundays.
DC is one of the most dangerous and desperate places in the country. It's great to visit, but as for living there? Much like my current city (San Diego) DC is a cesspool that's full of drug addicts, slums, and people who are forced to live on the streets because the city essentially forbids the construction of new homes.
Northern VA is nice though, if you can afford it and don't mind the traffic.
Weird, I work in real estate development in DC, and it's nothing like you describe.
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JT III out at Georgetown...
Yes, anyone who thinks DC is this dangerous war zone must have only spent time in SE.
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RE: JT III out at Georgetown...
DC is a great town. Yeah, there are parts where it's not great, but that's true w/ every city. DC is great on the whole.
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RE: JT III out at Georgetown...
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RE: JT III out at Georgetown...
(04-02-2017 02:28 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote: (03-24-2017 07:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote: Should have happened a LONG time ago.
We should hire Gregg Marshall.
Hey Quo... Where do you think Marshall will be coaching next year?
Do you think Georgetown reached out to him too!!?
Do you think he didn't like the conference? Or is it Georgetown?
What are your thoughts on the Patrick Ewing rumblings...
Georgetown is a more prestigious and successful basketball program than Wichita State. It also has more Final Four appearances (5) than total NCAA appearances of four different AAC programs (Tulane - 3, UCF - 4, USF - 3, and ECU -2) - so you might want to examine that before you start attacking conferences here.
I'm not sure who Georgetown will hire, but Patrick Ewing would be a grand slam. He's a former college basketball player of the year, Final Four Outstanding Player, NCAA Champion, Big East Player of the Year, and 11-time NBA All-Star. He would bring strong credibility and experience to one of the best basketball programs in the country. Many recruits, especially big men, would want to play for him. The media attention that he would get against St. Johns and Chris Mullin, not to mention during the Big East Tournament, would be incredibly high.
Ewing is nothing like Clyde Drexler, who was absolutely terrible for Houston. Drexler didn't spend a single day of coaching before being named coach at Houston. He had no experience and no knowledge of what it took to be a coach. Ewing has over 15 years of experience as a coach in the NBA, including many young players who should have stayed in college. I would be more confident with a coach of Ewing's credentials than a Drexler.
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RE: JT III out at Georgetown...
(04-02-2017 03:24 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote: Georgetown is a more prestigious and successful basketball program than Wichita State.
Current recruits haven't seen anything other than Georgetown lose to the likes of Davidson, WV, VCU, Florida Gulf Coast, etc.
They've seen Wichita State in the Final Four.
Ewing is by no means a "Grand Slam". Why is nobody else beating down his door? Danny Manning made his way from Tulsa to WF as a HC. What is Georgetown seeing that no one else is? Is he a shoe-in for an NBA HC post and Georgetown is getting in while the gettins good?
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