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Final Fours
*EDIT: I've updated my original post to reflect this year's Final Four participants.

After reading through many threads and posts regarding blue bloods, deep tourney runs, P5 haves and have nots, where UC fits in all this, etc., I was curious about the programs that have made the Final Four over the past 21 tournaments (including 2017). The list below shows the number of Final Fours and the tournament championships in parentheses for each university. Highlighted in red are the current non-P5 programs. Louisville, Syracuse, Utah and West Virginia were non-P5 at the time of their listed appearances.

8 (3) North Carolina
7 (1) Michigan State
6 (2) Kentucky
5 (4) Connecticut
5 (3) Duke
4 (2) Florida
4 (1) Kansas
3 (1) Louisville
3 (1) Syracuse
3 Ohio State
3 UCLA
3 Wisconsin
2 (1) Arizona
2 (1) Maryland
2 (1) Villanova
2 Butler
2 Oklahoma
1 George Mason
1 Georgetown
1 Georgia Tech
1 Gonzaga
1 Illinois
1 Indiana
1 LSU
1 Marquette
1 Memphis
1 Michigan
1 Minnesota
1 Oklahoma State
1 Oregon
1 South Carolina
1 Stanford
1 Texas
1 Utah
1 VCU
1 West Virginia
1 Wichita State


Interesting that no team with only one FF appearance has won it all. UConn has made the most of its appearances and aside from them, the P5 has dominated overall. Of the 80 FF slots over the past 20 tournaments, non-P5 have accounted for 15 (19%). If you add the appearances when Louisville, Syracuse, Utah and West Virginia were non-P5 that number only increases to 23 (29%). Not a surprise but it clearly shows UC and other similar tier programs will need to catch lightning in a bottle to make a FF.
 
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(03-23-2017 09:59 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  After reading through many threads and posts regarding blue bloods, deep tourney runs, P5 haves and have nots, where UC fits in all this, etc., I was curious about the programs that have made the Final Four over the past 20 tournaments. The list below shows the number of Final Fours and the tournament championships in parentheses for each university. Highlighted in red are the current non-P5 programs. Louisville, Syracuse, Utah and West Virginia were non-P5 at the time of their listed appearances.

7 (2) North Carolina
7 (1) Michigan State
6 (2) Kentucky
5 (4) Connecticut
5 (3) Duke
4 (2) Florida
4 (1) Kansas
3 (1) Louisville
3 (1) Syracuse
3 Ohio State
3 UCLA
3 Wisconsin
2 (1) Arizona
2 (1) Maryland
2 (1) Villanova
2 Butler
2 Oklahoma
1 George Mason
1 Georgetown
1 Georgia Tech
1 Illinois
1 Indiana
1 LSU
1 Marquette
1 Memphis
1 Michigan
1 Minnesota
1 Oklahoma State
1 Stanford
1 Texas
1 Utah
1 VCU
1 West Virginia
1 Wichita State

Interesting that no team with only one FF appearance has won it all. UConn has made the most of its appearances and aside from them, the P5 has dominated overall. Of the 80 FF slots over the past 20 tournaments, non-P5 have accounted for 15 (19%). If you add the appearances when Louisville, Syracuse, Utah and West Virginia were non-P5 that number only increases to 23 (29%). Not a surprise but it clearly shows UC and other similar tier programs will need to catch lightning in a bottle to make a FF.

Interesting statistics. Actually UofL was in the Final Four in 2005,2009, 2012 and 2013 (Championship season). As members of the Big East in '12 and '13, which was a BCS member in football, and was arguably the strongest basketball conference at the time, it could be argued there was a P6 then.
 
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(04-07-2017 06:37 PM)TDredbird Wrote:  Interesting statistics. Actually UofL was in the Final Four in 2005,2009, 2012 and 2013 (Championship season). As members of the Big East in '12 and '13, which was a BCS member in football, and was arguably the strongest basketball conference at the time, it could be argued there was a P6 then.

According to the college basketball stats web site I based my numbers on, the Cardinals lost to Michigan State in the 2009 Elite Eight. Link:

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/louisville/
 
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