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Get rid of the conference basketball tournament - From the Bird's Nest
There are a lot more reasons NOT to have the tournament then to have it.

http://espn1420.com/time-for-the-sun-bel...ournament/
03-22-2017 01:20 PM
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RE: Get rid of the conference basketball tournament - From the Bird's Nest
(03-22-2017 01:20 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  There are a lot more reasons NOT to have the tournament then to have it.

http://espn1420.com/time-for-the-sun-bel...ournament/

First I am not a big basketball fan. I would not be against not have a conference basketball tournament to decide who wins the conference. But to do away with the conference tournament that is fair to all 12 basketball playing members is to go with a full round robin conference schedule which would be 22 conference games.
03-22-2017 02:27 PM
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RE: Get rid of the conference basketball tournament - From the Bird's Nest
(03-22-2017 01:20 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  There are a lot more reasons NOT to have the tournament then to have it.

http://espn1420.com/time-for-the-sun-bel...ournament/


Good article. Ditch the tournament.
03-22-2017 02:33 PM
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RE: Get rid of the conference basketball tournament - From the Bird's Nest
(03-22-2017 02:27 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  
(03-22-2017 01:20 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  There are a lot more reasons NOT to have the tournament then to have it.

http://espn1420.com/time-for-the-sun-bel...ournament/

First I am not a big basketball fan. I would not be against not have a conference basketball tournament to decide who wins the conference. But to do away with the conference tournament that is fair to all 12 basketball playing members is to go with a full round robin conference schedule which would be 22 conference games.

Yes. Good point. If you want to ditch the tournament, or if you want to exclude teams from the tournament, you probably have to have a balanced schedule.

I liked the format from the past few years. Top 8 seeds invited instead of all teams. 1st round byes for seeds 3 and 4, double byes for seeds 1 and 2.
03-22-2017 03:20 PM
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RE: Get rid of the conference basketball tournament - From the Bird's Nest
That's not gonna help Bobby Big Fish.
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I propose a compromise....

Four teams in the tournament. The semi final games and championship game are best of 3. That way we still get the championship game on TV and the best team is more likely to escape as the winner.
03-22-2017 04:28 PM
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Conference tourneys are stupid. Ditch 'em.
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RE: Get rid of the conference basketball tournament - From the Bird's Nest
Great article - I agree with everything you pointed out. I only have two quick things to point out myself. Number one, the SBC wouldn't be the first to set the no-conference-tournament precedent. I'm not sure which conference is but the Ivy League doesn't have one and seems to hold their own in the NCAA's normally.

Number two, I'd add the fact that opting to nix the tourney would give our regular season champ some rest and would help to ensure minimal, if any ridiculous injuries prior to the "Big Dance". Perhaps this is one big reason the Ivy League has been seen often in the Sweet Sixteen and even deeper - well rested and healthy?
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Ivy League had a 4-team conference tournament this year. All D1 conferences hold a conference tournament.
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(03-22-2017 04:46 PM)_x_ Wrote:  Ivy League had a 4-team conference tournament this year. All D1 conferences hold a conference tournament.

Thank you... I did not realize they had implemented a four-team tourney this year (for the first time ever?). I always appreciate being corrected and I thank you for it 04-cheers
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Yes. 2017 was the first Ivy League tournament.
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I would be fine with an 8-team tourney or a 6-team tourney. I think a 12-team tourney is too much. If you're 8th place or lower in the conference standings, you shouldn't get the chance to make it to the NCAA Tournament. Heck, last year Troy was last place in the Sun Belt and didn't go to the SBC tournament, and I was perfectly fine with that. They didn't deserve it...
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I would also prefer to see it cut to 8 teams, but I disagree with those who want it cut altogether.
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RE: Get rid of the conference basketball tournament - From the Bird's Nest
Unless you have a true double round robin schedule, a conference tournament makes the most sense.

The format will never be perfect because the conference changes every year. Sometimes you might have a three-way tie for first and it's great to have a conference tournament.

I understand having everyone make the tournament. You want to sell tickets and most teams will be coming from several hundred miles away.

There's no great solution here besides moving the tournament, which would be a shot in the dark.
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I'm just meh about the basketball tournament. Texas-Arlington would not have been a 15th seed this year like Troy. I'm sure they could have won at-least one game just like MTSU. NCAA has everyone bought into the idea the magic of March where everyone has a chance to win the tournament. It really hurts leagues like ours who will only get one bid each year. ACC got 9 teams in this year and only have North Carolina left. The more upsets that happen in the G5 leagues the easier it is for the committee to pump their chest when the P5 dominates the tourney. We are never going to get rid of it but if the SBC stays at 12 then seeds 1 and 2 should be in the semis automatically.
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(03-23-2017 01:05 AM)SouthJags2012 Wrote:  I'm just meh about the basketball tournament. Texas-Arlington would not have been a 15th seed this year like Troy. I'm sure they could have won at-least one game just like MTSU. NCAA has everyone bought into the idea the magic of March where everyone has a chance to win the tournament. It really hurts leagues like ours who will only get one bid each year. ACC got 9 teams in this year and only have North Carolina left. The more upsets that happen in the G5 leagues the easier it is for the committee to pump their chest when the P5 dominates the tourney. We are never going to get rid of it but if the SBC stays at 12 then seeds 1 and 2 should be in the semis automatically.

UTA would have been a 12 or a 13 if you listened to the predictions. Troy was lucky they didn't get a 16.
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I agree it would take a balanced schedule.

But if schools schedule OOC games with the idea of beating quality competition helps your seeding in the NCAA, then it can be done.

22 league games are a bunch. But I agree balance is necessary.

And, no I'm not in favor of kicking anyone out of the league.
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Anything over 18 conference games is a terrible idea.

Tourney - 8 teams, top two seeds advance to semis.
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(03-23-2017 08:24 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Anything over 18 conference games is a terrible idea.

Tourney - 8 teams, top two seeds advance to semis.

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We don't play a double round robin and this year going into the final four playing dates or so we had the possibility of a three way tie for first that UTA would have won by playing the other two tied teams only once, at home.

When the stakes are the one seed that causes some grumbling but most people don't get too twisted about it.

When the stakes are going to the Big Dance and national attention and a chance to play your way forward on the big stage, that is unacceptable.
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