cr11owl
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RE: Mike Rhoades will be VCU’s next head coach
(04-20-2017 08:04 AM)BlazerGold09 Wrote: (04-19-2017 04:33 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote: (04-19-2017 02:22 PM)BlazerGold09 Wrote: This is basically a death penalty for Rice basketball. It'll likely be 5+ years before they'll be over .500 again in C-USA and there is no guarantee they'll ever see the success of this past season again. Rhoades created a perfect storm and assembled arguably the most talented team the program has ever had. None of the players were committed to Rice and/or Pera and that's apparent now. I'm not implying Rhoades did Rice wrong. I'm just saying it's a really unfortunate situation that is multiplied by the fact that Rice is a tough university for an athlete to qualify for.
Saying all that I don't think Rice cares. They have a healthy athletic department that doesn't need basketball to be at a championship competing level. That's the problem with many programs in this conference. They have no incentive to be competitive.
What are you talking about? 5+ year before we're over .500 again? Our six (or seven if Lott stays) remaining scholarship players were generally highly rated coming out of high school and Pera has four signees (with more likely coming). I bet we go something like 14-18 next year and continue to go up from there.
And Rice definitely has an incentive to be good in basketball, especially with a flagging football and baseball program.
Listen I pom pom for Rice as hard as any. It took a collection of high major type players for Rhoades to win 11 conference games. As you said the 6 or 7 left aren't too bad. But now depth is going to be an issue for the next 3-4 years and the chances a Marcus Evans or a MLE coming through the door aren't very likely.
Pera already signed a HS commit who is just as highly rated as Evans was (but I agree we got lucky with how Evans actually turned out). MLE didn't even start this year when Douglas was healthy. Pera brought Egor in himself. And Jackson was a holdover from Braun.
You realize when Rhoades took over the talent we had was far worse than what Pera is going to start with. 5 years to get to .500 is ridiculous. It just sucks because next year we could've been competing for a conference championship and now I think that's 2-3 years away again.
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RE: Mike Rhoades will be VCU’s next head coach
(04-18-2017 04:52 PM)cr11owl Wrote: With the departure of Rhoades, Rice has now lost 6 of the best 7 players from last years team and graduated 1 senior. He poached the best player in the conference.
In the years Rhoades was at Rice 13 out of the 20 kids he recruited transferred. 2 more transferred when he signed on. 4 walkons were on the roster and left. And he signed 0 kids for next season's class before leaving.
NCAA basketball really sucks these days.
We discussed this on the Rice board, but Rice only had 1 open scholarship when Rhoades was coaching. I don't blame him at all for having zero commits heading into the spring with only 1 roster spot guaranteed to be open.
(04-19-2017 04:33 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote: (04-19-2017 02:22 PM)BlazerGold09 Wrote: This is basically a death penalty for Rice basketball. It'll likely be 5+ years before they'll be over .500 again in C-USA and there is no guarantee they'll ever see the success of this past season again. Rhoades created a perfect storm and assembled arguably the most talented team the program has ever had. None of the players were committed to Rice and/or Pera and that's apparent now. I'm not implying Rhoades did Rice wrong. I'm just saying it's a really unfortunate situation that is multiplied by the fact that Rice is a tough university for an athlete to qualify for.
Saying all that I don't think Rice cares. They have a healthy athletic department that doesn't need basketball to be at a championship competing level. That's the problem with many programs in this conference. They have no incentive to be competitive.
What are you talking about? 5+ year before we're over .500 again? Our six (or seven if Lott stays) remaining scholarship players were generally highly rated coming out of high school and Pera has four signees (with more likely coming). I bet we go something like 14-18 next year and continue to go up from there.
And Rice definitely has an incentive to be good in basketball, especially with a flagging football and baseball program.
As noted by others, Pera is inherting a Rice roster with a lot more talent than what Rhoades inherited. Both grad transfers were pretty good recruits out of high school, but struggled with significant injuries in college. If they are healthy, I think they will be much bigger contributors than their college numbers suggest. I think Rice has a decent shot at finishing in the middle of the pack in CUSA next season. Potentially better if Pera can get them to over-achieve.
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