(04-13-2017 12:04 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 11:56 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Maybe all you Big stadium, Big attendance, No market football schools should make your own G5 conference??

Ark St, Louisiana Tech, S Miss, ECU, Marshall, JMU ... who else?

UL Lafayette and UTEP would fit that bill.

You need to drop La Tech & JMU from any big attendance talk. If you're going on big attendance it's clear who is missing.

So Miss - 28,500
App State - 26,200
Marshall - 24,800
UTEP - 23,000
A State - 22,700
Troy - 22,500
Rice - 21 900
GA So - 20,800
La Tech - 20,400
JMU - 19,850

(04-16-2017 02:28 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 12:04 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 11:56 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Maybe all you Big stadium, Big attendance, No market football schools should make your own G5 conference??

Ark St, Louisiana Tech, S Miss, ECU, Marshall, JMU ... who else?

UL Lafayette and UTEP would fit that bill.

You need to drop La Tech & JMU from any big attendance talk. If you're going on big attendance it's clear who is missing.

So Miss - 28,500
App State - 26,200
Marshall - 24,800
UTEP - 23,000
A State - 22,700
Troy - 22,500
Rice - 21 900
GA So - 20,800
La Tech - 20,400
JMU - 19,850

None of that is big attendance

(04-15-2017 05:58 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  You might be surprised....

If something actually happens, not just an opinion piece from a writer with an agenda, I will not just be surprised I'll be floored.

(04-16-2017 06:59 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  None of that is big attendance

The comment was relevant to schools that think that because they have a big stadium and attendance in football, relative to their conference, that has earned them a seat at a bigger table ... which they aren't going to get because they don't have a market. *cough* Ark St,ECU *cough*

(04-16-2017 06:59 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 02:28 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 12:04 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 11:56 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Maybe all you Big stadium, Big attendance, No market football schools should make your own G5 conference??

Ark St, Louisiana Tech, S Miss, ECU, Marshall, JMU ... who else?

UL Lafayette and UTEP would fit that bill.

You need to drop La Tech & JMU from any big attendance talk. If you're going on big attendance it's clear who is missing.

So Miss - 28,500
App State - 26,200
Marshall - 24,800
UTEP - 23,000
A State - 22,700
Troy - 22,500
Rice - 21 900
GA So - 20,800
La Tech - 20,400
JMU - 19,850

None of that is big attendance

This

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(04-16-2017 08:38 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 05:58 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  You might be surprised....

If something actually happens, not just an opinion piece from a writer with an agenda, I will not just be surprised I'll be floored.

(04-16-2017 06:59 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  None of that is big attendance

The comment was relevant to schools that think that because they have a big stadium and attendance in football, relative to their conference, that has earned them a seat at a bigger table ... which they aren't going to get because they don't have a market. *cough* Ark St,ECU *cough*

I don't believe anything is on track to happen soon if it ever happens.

Sun Belt has an ESPN contract through 2019-20.
The critical events that have to happen in my opinion are:
1. CUSA's negotiation for a deal to replace the deal expiring 2017-18 produces no significant change or negative change and...
2. Sun Belt sees that their contract options for 2020 and beyond are less satisfactory.

Then the intelligent choice is to start with the idea of a jointly negotiated contract and seeing where things go from there.

(04-16-2017 06:59 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 02:28 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 12:04 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 11:56 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Maybe all you Big stadium, Big attendance, No market football schools should make your own G5 conference??

Ark St, Louisiana Tech, S Miss, ECU, Marshall, JMU ... who else?

UL Lafayette and UTEP would fit that bill.

You need to drop La Tech & JMU from any big attendance talk. If you're going on big attendance it's clear who is missing.

So Miss - 28,500
App State - 26,200
Marshall - 24,800
UTEP - 23,000
A State - 22,700
Troy - 22,500
Rice - 21 900
GA So - 20,800
La Tech - 20,400
JMU - 19,850

None of that is big attendance

Not in rlationship to the P5 , but within the context to his comments.

(04-16-2017 08:48 AM)panama Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 06:59 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 02:28 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 12:04 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 11:56 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Maybe all you Big stadium, Big attendance, No market football schools should make your own G5 conference??

Ark St, Louisiana Tech, S Miss, ECU, Marshall, JMU ... who else?

UL Lafayette and UTEP would fit that bill.

You need to drop La Tech & JMU from any big attendance talk. If you're going on big attendance it's clear who is missing.

So Miss - 28,500
App State - 26,200
Marshall - 24,800
UTEP - 23,000
A State - 22,700
Troy - 22,500
Rice - 21 900
GA So - 20,800
La Tech - 20,400
JMU - 19,850

None of that is big attendance

This

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Says the guy from a school that can't get 10,000 to show up for a game.

(04-16-2017 12:27 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 08:48 AM)panama Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 06:59 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 02:28 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 12:04 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  UL Lafayette and UTEP would fit that bill.

You need to drop La Tech & JMU from any big attendance talk. If you're going on big attendance it's clear who is missing.

So Miss - 28,500
App State - 26,200
Marshall - 24,800
UTEP - 23,000
A State - 22,700
Troy - 22,500
Rice - 21 900
GA So - 20,800
La Tech - 20,400
JMU - 19,850

None of that is big attendance

This

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Says the guy from a school that can't get 10,000 to show up for a game.

Says the guy from the school that can't pay to remove a damn track.



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(04-16-2017 06:14 PM)panama Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 12:27 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 08:48 AM)panama Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 06:59 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 02:28 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  You need to drop La Tech & JMU from any big attendance talk. If you're going on big attendance it's clear who is missing.

So Miss - 28,500
App State - 26,200
Marshall - 24,800
UTEP - 23,000
A State - 22,700
Troy - 22,500
Rice - 21 900
GA So - 20,800
La Tech - 20,400
JMU - 19,850

None of that is big attendance

This

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Says the guy from a school that can't get 10,000 to show up for a game.

Says the guy from the school that can't pay to remove a damn track.



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That's the best you've got? That track didn't keep us from averaging over 26,000 the past 10 years. Paying to remove it has never been the issue, finding enough flat ground to relocte it was. However, in case you missed it that issue has been remedied and the next time you guys roll into Boone you won't have to look at it.

Another article from a different paper covering a CUSA school.

http://www.sunherald.com/sports/spt-colu...13204.html

(04-16-2017 08:03 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 06:14 PM)panama Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 12:27 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 08:48 AM)panama Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 06:59 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  None of that is big attendance

This

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Says the guy from a school that can't get 10,000 to show up for a game.

Says the guy from the school that can't pay to remove a damn track.



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That's the best you've got? That track didn't keep us from averaging over 26,000 the past 10 years. Paying to remove it has never been the issue, finding enough flat ground to relocte it was. However, in case you missed it that issue has been remedied and the next time you guys roll into Boone you won't have to look at it.

Moving right along...

Would be great if we get to split away fro m geniuses like you.

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(04-16-2017 09:35 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Another article from a different paper covering a CUSA school.

http://www.sunherald.com/sports/spt-colu...13204.html

It may not happen yet or how these articles envision. Will be a lot messier and someone will get their feeling hurt.

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A merger is not going to happen. A reorganization where both conferences work together SHOULD happen, but pride, ego, etc make that difficult

(04-17-2017 12:29 AM)panama Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 08:03 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 06:14 PM)panama Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 12:27 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 08:48 AM)panama Wrote:  This

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Says the guy from a school that can't get 10,000 to show up for a game.

Says the guy from the school that can't pay to remove a damn track.



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That's the best you've got? That track didn't keep us from averaging over 26,000 the past 10 years. Paying to remove it has never been the issue, finding enough flat ground to relocte it was. However, in case you missed it that issue has been remedied and the next time you guys roll into Boone you won't have to look at it.

Moving right along...

Would be great if we get to split away fro m geniuses like you.

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Nothing of substance to stand on? Start hurling insults. Typical.

(04-17-2017 07:13 AM)solohawks Wrote:  A merger is not going to happen. A reorganization where both conferences work together SHOULD happen, but pride, ego, etc make that difficult

There will be no merger under current rules unless it is an administrative merger.

(04-16-2017 09:35 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Another article from a different paper covering a CUSA school.

http://www.sunherald.com/sports/spt-colu...13204.html

Read the article and a couple of things stood out to me. One of his suggestions is for a full on merger making a 24 team league that would be broken into 4 six team divisions. Then he suggests that it could easily expand and included UMass in that expansion. Anyone think that adding UMass helps travel? Anyone? And he did not address the loss of auto-bids by having a merger of two leagues into one. I think the full merger is an idea that is dead on arrival.

If C-USA is in a bind due to geography, the west can easily address it's issues by adding Texas St and NMSU. Adding NMSU gives all teams except football a chance for 2 games for the price of traveling to one. Adding Texas St does pretty much the same. The east division has a 2 for 1 travel situation already in Florida, a 2 for 1 with WKU/MT and close to that with Charlotte/ODU. A 16 team league with no or very little crossover games would be much better than a 24 team league when it comes to auto-bids and splitting league income.

I personally don't think any of this is necessary since the current divisions could be utilized much more wisely. The writer mentions some of the worst travel situations of sending minor sports teams from the east coast to the southwest and vice versa. Stop doing that and suddenly you start saving some money. It's not rocket science.

(04-17-2017 08:04 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  I personally don't think any of this is necessary since the current divisions could be utilized much more wisely. The writer mentions some of the worst travel situations of sending minor sports teams from the east coast to the southwest and vice versa. Stop doing that and suddenly you start saving some money. It's not rocket science.

AGREED!

There is no need for Charlotte to be going to UTEP in volleyball or soccer. Use divisions for all sports and minimize crossover as much as possible. No one will be heartbroken if Marshall and Rice do not get to play each other in non revenue sports.

(04-17-2017 08:04 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 09:35 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Another article from a different paper covering a CUSA school.

http://www.sunherald.com/sports/spt-colu...13204.html

Read the article and a couple of things stood out to me. One of his suggestions is for a full on merger making a 24 team league that would be broken into 4 six team divisions. Then he suggests that it could easily expand and included UMass in that expansion. Anyone think that adding UMass helps travel? Anyone? And he did not address the loss of auto-bids by having a merger of two leagues into one. I think the full merger is an idea that is dead on arrival.

If C-USA is in a bind due to geography, the west can easily address it's issues by adding Texas St and NMSU. Adding NMSU gives all teams except football a chance for 2 games for the price of traveling to one. Adding Texas St does pretty much the same. The east division has a 2 for 1 travel situation already in Florida, a 2 for 1 with WKU/MT and close to that with Charlotte/ODU. A 16 team league with no or very little crossover games would be much better than a 24 team league when it comes to auto-bids and splitting league income.

I personally don't think any of this is necessary since the current divisions could be utilized much more wisely. The writer mentions some of the worst travel situations of sending minor sports teams from the east coast to the southwest and vice versa. Stop doing that and suddenly you start saving some money. It's not rocket science.

I liked his article until I saw the UMASS part. Why on earth would two Southern conferences looking for a tighter geographic footprint invite UMASS??? That's insane.

If CUSA offered Arkansas St (to the West) and Georgia St (to the East) making it 2, 8 team conferences essentially, do you think either of those two schools would leave the Belch?
The Belch would be at 8 and could add NMSU and Liberty to get to 10...or just stay at 8.

(04-17-2017 08:04 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 09:35 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Another article from a different paper covering a CUSA school.

http://www.sunherald.com/sports/spt-colu...13204.html

Read the article and a couple of things stood out to me. One of his suggestions is for a full on merger making a 24 team league that would be broken into 4 six team divisions. Then he suggests that it could easily expand and included UMass in that expansion. Anyone think that adding UMass helps travel? Anyone? And he did not address the loss of auto-bids by having a merger of two leagues into one. I think the full merger is an idea that is dead on arrival.

If C-USA is in a bind due to geography, the west can easily address it's issues by adding Texas St and NMSU. Adding NMSU gives all teams except football a chance for 2 games for the price of traveling to one. Adding Texas St does pretty much the same. The east division has a 2 for 1 travel situation already in Florida, a 2 for 1 with WKU/MT and close to that with Charlotte/ODU. A 16 team league with no or very little crossover games would be much better than a 24 team league when it comes to auto-bids and splitting league income.

I personally don't think any of this is necessary since the current divisions could be utilized much more wisely. The writer mentions some of the worst travel situations of sending minor sports teams from the east coast to the southwest and vice versa. Stop doing that and suddenly you start saving some money. It's not rocket science.

That's what I keep thinking the first step would be. Add two teams to each side of CUSA and basically just play within the division. The only time you would ever meet the other division schools would be in championship games.