(03-16-2017 10:41 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(03-15-2017 03:53 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Looking at what our active members have earned during the 6 year period
1. UConn 13
2. UC 10
3. Temple 6
3. Memphis 6
5. USF 3
6. Tulsa 2
7. SMU 1
Houston, Tulane,ECU and UCF 0

Since each unit is worth around 250k. The league would earn 10.25 million or 932k per team yearly.

Wichita State 14 units
VCU 13 units
Dayton 8 units.

Adding all three would bring. 19 million or 1.357 million per team yearly.

So about 400k per team more per year.

Now many might say that's not a lot but you can also say the image of the league would be lifted going from 41 units in 6 years to 76 in same type period. Almost doubling league output in NCAA tourney games.

Quote:Posted by BullsFanInTX - Yesterday 10:07 PM
We desperately need either SMU or Cincinnati to make a deep run this year (preferably both at least make Sweet 16).

Maybe it's me, but it seems like every post-season there is a thread started by a USF fan about the NCAA tournament credits. What I find ironic is that USF rarely contributes to the "credit pool," but their fans are rather eager that USF get their share of the credits.

How about this...especially in the wake of yet another hiring of an uninspiring head BB coach...take a break in calculating what the other teams are bringing in through the NCAA tournament credits. We get it, the whole conference benefits from what a couple of teams are doing. But until USF starts contributing to that largesse, it's unseemly to keep going on about the NCAA Basketball credits.

It's you. Totally agree that USF needs to step it up. Every single USF fan alive agrees with that. I was just hoping our conference does well this tournament, and basically rooting for SMU and UC to make runs...if that happens, I will be their biggest fans, and not just for credit purposes, although that helps. BTW, USF has more credits that 6 other teams...are they being bashed as well?

(03-16-2017 11:03 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(03-15-2017 11:07 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  We desperately need either SMU or Cincinnati to make a deep run this year (preferably both at least make Sweet 16).

No, we desperately need the dregs to get better, a lot better.

Yes, I agree and everyone agrees with that. But guess what, that isn't going to happen this year, so for this year, it would be beneficial for AAC for SMU and UC to do well. If they don't, then they don't.

(03-16-2017 03:34 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(03-16-2017 11:03 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(03-15-2017 11:07 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  We desperately need either SMU or Cincinnati to make a deep run this year (preferably both at least make Sweet 16).

No, we desperately need the dregs to get better, a lot better.

Yes, I agree and everyone agrees with that. But guess what, that isn't going to happen this year, so for this year, it would be beneficial for AAC for SMU and UC to do well. If they don't, then they don't.

Exactly. How hard is this to figure out?

UH is kickin' in $1.36 for our NIT berth. You're welcome.

(03-16-2017 10:41 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(03-15-2017 03:53 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Looking at what our active members have earned during the 6 year period
1. UConn 13
2. UC 10
3. Temple 6
3. Memphis 6
5. USF 3
6. Tulsa 2
7. SMU 1
Houston, Tulane,ECU and UCF 0

Since each unit is worth around 250k. The league would earn 10.25 million or 932k per team yearly.

Wichita State 14 units
VCU 13 units
Dayton 8 units.

Adding all three would bring. 19 million or 1.357 million per team yearly.

So about 400k per team more per year.

Now many might say that's not a lot but you can also say the image of the league would be lifted going from 41 units in 6 years to 76 in same type period. Almost doubling league output in NCAA tourney games.

Quote:Posted by BullsFanInTX - Yesterday 10:07 PM
We desperately need either SMU or Cincinnati to make a deep run this year (preferably both at least make Sweet 16).

Maybe it's me, but it seems like every post-season there is a thread started by a USF fan about the NCAA tournament credits. What I find ironic is that USF rarely contributes to the "credit pool," but their fans are rather eager that USF get their share of the credits.

How about this...especially in the wake of yet another hiring of an uninspiring head BB coach...take a break in calculating what the other teams are bringing in through the NCAA tournament credits. We get it, the whole conference benefits from what a couple of teams are doing. But until USF starts contributing to that largesse, it's unseemly to keep going on about the NCAA Basketball credits.

We get it and agree but maybe just maybe you should realize that as awful as USF has been and is still has more NCAA credits than 6 other teams in the league.
As i pointed out in my post USF is also part of the problem.
And I'll continue to post whatever type of post I want to post that deals with facts about this league and how all of its teams are performing

(03-17-2017 04:39 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(03-16-2017 10:41 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(03-15-2017 03:53 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Looking at what our active members have earned during the 6 year period
1. UConn 13
2. UC 10
3. Temple 6
3. Memphis 6
5. USF 3
6. Tulsa 2
7. SMU 1
Houston, Tulane,ECU and UCF 0

Since each unit is worth around 250k. The league would earn 10.25 million or 932k per team yearly.

Wichita State 14 units
VCU 13 units
Dayton 8 units.

Adding all three would bring. 19 million or 1.357 million per team yearly.

So about 400k per team more per year.

Now many might say that's not a lot but you can also say the image of the league would be lifted going from 41 units in 6 years to 76 in same type period. Almost doubling league output in NCAA tourney games.

Quote:Posted by BullsFanInTX - Yesterday 10:07 PM
We desperately need either SMU or Cincinnati to make a deep run this year (preferably both at least make Sweet 16).

Maybe it's me, but it seems like every post-season there is a thread started by a USF fan about the NCAA tournament credits. What I find ironic is that USF rarely contributes to the "credit pool," but their fans are rather eager that USF get their share of the credits.

How about this...especially in the wake of yet another hiring of an uninspiring head BB coach...take a break in calculating what the other teams are bringing in through the NCAA tournament credits. We get it, the whole conference benefits from what a couple of teams are doing. But until USF starts contributing to that largesse, it's unseemly to keep going on about the NCAA Basketball credits.

We get it and agree but maybe just maybe you should realize that as awful as USF has been and is still has more NCAA credits than 6 other teams in the league.
As i pointed out in my post USF is also part of the problem.
And I'll continue to post whatever type of post I want to post that deals with facts about this league and how all of its teams are performing

How did usf get units? The 2012 tournament?

2012 Bulls were TOUGH

Jeff Lebo knows nothing of tournament credits. He's never earned one as a coach.


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(03-17-2017 04:39 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(03-16-2017 10:41 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(03-15-2017 03:53 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Looking at what our active members have earned during the 6 year period
1. UConn 13
2. UC 10
3. Temple 6
3. Memphis 6
5. USF 3
6. Tulsa 2
7. SMU 1
Houston, Tulane,ECU and UCF 0

Since each unit is worth around 250k. The league would earn 10.25 million or 932k per team yearly.

Wichita State 14 units
VCU 13 units
Dayton 8 units.

Adding all three would bring. 19 million or 1.357 million per team yearly.

So about 400k per team more per year.

Now many might say that's not a lot but you can also say the image of the league would be lifted going from 41 units in 6 years to 76 in same type period. Almost doubling league output in NCAA tourney games.

Quote:Posted by BullsFanInTX - Yesterday 10:07 PM
We desperately need either SMU or Cincinnati to make a deep run this year (preferably both at least make Sweet 16).

Maybe it's me, but it seems like every post-season there is a thread started by a USF fan about the NCAA tournament credits. What I find ironic is that USF rarely contributes to the "credit pool," but their fans are rather eager that USF get their share of the credits.

How about this...especially in the wake of yet another hiring of an uninspiring head BB coach...take a break in calculating what the other teams are bringing in through the NCAA tournament credits. We get it, the whole conference benefits from what a couple of teams are doing. But until USF starts contributing to that largesse, it's unseemly to keep going on about the NCAA Basketball credits.

We get it and agree but maybe just maybe you should realize that as awful as USF has been and is still has more NCAA credits than 6 other teams in the league.
As i pointed out in my post USF is also part of the problem.
And I'll continue to post whatever type of post I want to post that deals with facts about this league and how all of its teams are performing

whats worth more these tournament credits or the access bowl/bcs bowl UCF and houston got us?

(03-17-2017 10:17 AM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  

(03-17-2017 04:39 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(03-16-2017 10:41 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(03-15-2017 03:53 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Looking at what our active members have earned during the 6 year period
1. UConn 13
2. UC 10
3. Temple 6
3. Memphis 6
5. USF 3
6. Tulsa 2
7. SMU 1
Houston, Tulane,ECU and UCF 0

Since each unit is worth around 250k. The league would earn 10.25 million or 932k per team yearly.

Wichita State 14 units
VCU 13 units
Dayton 8 units.

Adding all three would bring. 19 million or 1.357 million per team yearly.

So about 400k per team more per year.

Now many might say that's not a lot but you can also say the image of the league would be lifted going from 41 units in 6 years to 76 in same type period. Almost doubling league output in NCAA tourney games.

Quote:Posted by BullsFanInTX - Yesterday 10:07 PM
We desperately need either SMU or Cincinnati to make a deep run this year (preferably both at least make Sweet 16).

Maybe it's me, but it seems like every post-season there is a thread started by a USF fan about the NCAA tournament credits. What I find ironic is that USF rarely contributes to the "credit pool," but their fans are rather eager that USF get their share of the credits.

How about this...especially in the wake of yet another hiring of an uninspiring head BB coach...take a break in calculating what the other teams are bringing in through the NCAA tournament credits. We get it, the whole conference benefits from what a couple of teams are doing. But until USF starts contributing to that largesse, it's unseemly to keep going on about the NCAA Basketball credits.

We get it and agree but maybe just maybe you should realize that as awful as USF has been and is still has more NCAA credits than 6 other teams in the league.
As i pointed out in my post USF is also part of the problem.
And I'll continue to post whatever type of post I want to post that deals with facts about this league and how all of its teams are performing

whats worth more these tournament credits or the access bowl/bcs bowl UCF and houston got us?

I'd say they're about equal. Tourney credits help pay the bills but offer very little in marketing value for the conference. Access bowls didn't contribute much money once it was split but the added perception for the league was invaluable.

(03-17-2017 10:17 AM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  

(03-17-2017 04:39 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(03-16-2017 10:41 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(03-15-2017 03:53 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Looking at what our active members have earned during the 6 year period
1. UConn 13
2. UC 10
3. Temple 6
3. Memphis 6
5. USF 3
6. Tulsa 2
7. SMU 1
Houston, Tulane,ECU and UCF 0

Since each unit is worth around 250k. The league would earn 10.25 million or 932k per team yearly.

Wichita State 14 units
VCU 13 units
Dayton 8 units.

Adding all three would bring. 19 million or 1.357 million per team yearly.

So about 400k per team more per year.

Now many might say that's not a lot but you can also say the image of the league would be lifted going from 41 units in 6 years to 76 in same type period. Almost doubling league output in NCAA tourney games.

Quote:Posted by BullsFanInTX - Yesterday 10:07 PM
We desperately need either SMU or Cincinnati to make a deep run this year (preferably both at least make Sweet 16).

Maybe it's me, but it seems like every post-season there is a thread started by a USF fan about the NCAA tournament credits. What I find ironic is that USF rarely contributes to the "credit pool," but their fans are rather eager that USF get their share of the credits.

How about this...especially in the wake of yet another hiring of an uninspiring head BB coach...take a break in calculating what the other teams are bringing in through the NCAA tournament credits. We get it, the whole conference benefits from what a couple of teams are doing. But until USF starts contributing to that largesse, it's unseemly to keep going on about the NCAA Basketball credits.

We get it and agree but maybe just maybe you should realize that as awful as USF has been and is still has more NCAA credits than 6 other teams in the league.
As i pointed out in my post USF is also part of the problem.
And I'll continue to post whatever type of post I want to post that deals with facts about this league and how all of its teams are performing

whats worth more these tournament credits or the access bowl/bcs bowl UCF and houston got us?

And what does the Access Bowl has to do with the basketball situation of the league which what the purpose of the thread was about.

I mentioned this in another thread, but Wichita State returns everyone next year except for two walk-ons who only see the court in garbage time. They could easily be a top ten team next year. Let's get them in the league ASAP.

(03-15-2017 03:53 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Looking at what our active members have earned during the 6 year period
1. UConn 13
2. UC 10
3. Temple 6
3. Memphis 6
5. USF 3
6. Tulsa 2
7. SMU 1
Houston, Tulane,ECU and UCF 0

Since each unit is worth around 250k. The league would earn 10.25 million or 932k per team yearly.

Wichita State 14 units
VCU 13 units
Dayton 8 units.

Adding all three would bring. 19 million or 1.357 million per team yearly.

So about 400k per team more per year.

Now many might say that's not a lot but you can also say the image of the league would be lifted going from 41 units in 6 years to 76 in same type period. Almost doubling league output in NCAA tourney games.

Your math assumes a few things that may or may not be true:
1) It includes Big East basketball info. It's only safe to assume similar numbers if we expect to get as many bids over a 6-year period as the BE.
2) It assumes that adding those teams will only add/combine bids, and won't wash out a few based on teams beating each other.

(03-17-2017 03:12 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(03-15-2017 03:53 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Looking at what our active members have earned during the 6 year period
1. UConn 13
2. UC 10
3. Temple 6
3. Memphis 6
5. USF 3
6. Tulsa 2
7. SMU 1
Houston, Tulane,ECU and UCF 0

Since each unit is worth around 250k. The league would earn 10.25 million or 932k per team yearly.

Wichita State 14 units
VCU 13 units
Dayton 8 units.

Adding all three would bring. 19 million or 1.357 million per team yearly.

So about 400k per team more per year.

Now many might say that's not a lot but you can also say the image of the league would be lifted going from 41 units in 6 years to 76 in same type period. Almost doubling league output in NCAA tourney games.

Your math assumes a few things that may or may not be true:
1) It includes Big East basketball info. It's only safe to assume similar numbers if we expect to get as many bids over a 6-year period as the BE.
2) It assumes that adding those teams will only add/combine bids, and won't wash out a few based on teams beating each other.

Of course there are assumptions. There will always be some since we are all in different leagues.
At the end it comes down to whether the league believes that Wichita will continue to be a good team in future.
At the end as I said earlier our teams have to do better than they have done in past 6 years.

(03-17-2017 07:40 AM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(03-17-2017 04:39 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(03-16-2017 10:41 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(03-15-2017 03:53 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Looking at what our active members have earned during the 6 year period
1. UConn 13
2. UC 10
3. Temple 6
3. Memphis 6
5. USF 3
6. Tulsa 2
7. SMU 1
Houston, Tulane,ECU and UCF 0

Since each unit is worth around 250k. The league would earn 10.25 million or 932k per team yearly.

Wichita State 14 units
VCU 13 units
Dayton 8 units.

Adding all three would bring. 19 million or 1.357 million per team yearly.

So about 400k per team more per year.

Now many might say that's not a lot but you can also say the image of the league would be lifted going from 41 units in 6 years to 76 in same type period. Almost doubling league output in NCAA tourney games.

Quote:Posted by BullsFanInTX - Yesterday 10:07 PM
We desperately need either SMU or Cincinnati to make a deep run this year (preferably both at least make Sweet 16).

Maybe it's me, but it seems like every post-season there is a thread started by a USF fan about the NCAA tournament credits. What I find ironic is that USF rarely contributes to the "credit pool," but their fans are rather eager that USF get their share of the credits.

How about this...especially in the wake of yet another hiring of an uninspiring head BB coach...take a break in calculating what the other teams are bringing in through the NCAA tournament credits. We get it, the whole conference benefits from what a couple of teams are doing. But until USF starts contributing to that largesse, it's unseemly to keep going on about the NCAA Basketball credits.

We get it and agree but maybe just maybe you should realize that as awful as USF has been and is still has more NCAA credits than 6 other teams in the league.
As i pointed out in my post USF is also part of the problem.
And I'll continue to post whatever type of post I want to post that deals with facts about this league and how all of its teams are performing

How did usf get units? The 2012 tournament?

Wow two games (therefore played in 3) in 2012. Very nearly won a 3rd game.