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Who you prefer as CUSA Commish?
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RE: Who you prefer as CUSA Commish?
Above and beyond the all the TV stuff and our Conference perception.

I have a problem with her on camera interviews. The person you select
to be your spokesperson has to have some charisma.

She may be very good in other areas but the head of an athletic conference
has to be able to speak with some passion and inspire others to want to know more about CUSA.

She does not come accross with that passion on radio or TV and for that reason alone I would want a different selection.

You can forget Benson or Wrong Waters before him. I can't believe there is nobody else out there.
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RE: Who you prefer as CUSA Commish?
(03-17-2017 09:35 PM)techdawg28 Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 09:04 PM)MU42 Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 05:59 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 05:03 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 02:03 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  CUSA's expansion was predicated on the long game.

That's a stupid strategy.

the g5/cusa screwed the pooch when we didn't 'uber' align with the mwc....would've generated more leverage

as always, jmo

If I'm the MWC I tell Hawaii to hit the road with their football and bring BYU back. They have no where else to go now.

BYU considers itself P5 now and will never join a G5 conference again. They'll stay independent until they find a way to get either the Pac-12 or Big XII to take them.

XACLY! ....and they have clout....
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(03-18-2017 12:18 PM)MU42 Wrote:  Tim Tebow and Michael Sam were both good players and imo were good enough to play in the NFL. But they got ran out because of the attention they received. One for being too Christian and the other for being too gay. The media brought so much attention to them that they became distractions and no coach wanted to deal with it.

False.

Tim.Tebow was not a good NFL QB. The guy is a winner, a hell of a natural athlete, a tremendously effective college QB in the system in which he played and everything you could ever want in a role model, but he was not a good NFL QB.

His departure from the NFL had zero to do with his religion, the overwhelming majority of professional athletes make some sort of religious remarks in post game interviews. I'll grant, Tebow was extremely outspoken, but so were Tony Dungy, Reggie White,Kurt Warner...

The real problem with Tebow(beyond his unwillingness to try to learn another position) was that he was probably good enoigh to be a back up and he's a great locker room guy and leader, but his specific skill set really changes your offense, so while he may be far better at what he does than a fair number of back ups in the league are at being a standard QB, he does something so different than the majority of starters around the league, he's just not a great fit as a backup anywhere. Seattle maybe? Russell Wilson's game is probably the most similar to Tebow among current starters and Tebow is a lot of things, but he's not Russell Wilson.
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RE: Who you prefer as CUSA Commish?
Tebow can't throw.

Sam wasn't any good.

It's really that simple.
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RE: Who you prefer as CUSA Commish?
(03-17-2017 05:59 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 05:03 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 02:03 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  CUSA's expansion was predicated on the long game.

That's a stupid strategy.

the g5/cusa screwed the pooch when we didn't 'uber' align with the mwc....would've generated more leverage

as always, jmo

I agree, and wonder if that is a strategy that can still be pursued. Some kind of "affiliation" between CUSA and the MWC in football.

Before you say "what's in it for the MWC?", let me quickly explain. I believe the MWC still has the same problem it (and the WAC) always had; because their games are played in the Mountain and Pacific time zones they are mostly "out of site, out of mind", and thereby ignored by the east coast media and the American public. (This was a big problem for LA Tech when we were playing games out west in the WAC.) But, by forging a strong football schedule affiliation with CUSA, it seems to me that the MWC could realize many valuable media exposure benefits from playing CUSA's east coast and deep south teams in eastern and central time zones.
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RE: Who you prefer as CUSA Commish?
(03-19-2017 04:50 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Tebow can't throw.

Sam wasn't any good.

It's really that simple.



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(03-19-2017 02:08 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 12:18 PM)MU42 Wrote:  Tim Tebow and Michael Sam were both good players and imo were good enough to play in the NFL. But they got ran out because of the attention they received. One for being too Christian and the other for being too gay. The media brought so much attention to them that they became distractions and no coach wanted to deal with it.

False.

Tim.Tebow was not a good NFL QB. The guy is a winner, a hell of a natural athlete, a tremendously effective college QB in the system in which he played and everything you could ever want in a role model, but he was not a good NFL QB.

His departure from the NFL had zero to do with his religion, the overwhelming majority of professional athletes make some sort of religious remarks in post game interviews. I'll grant, Tebow was extremely outspoken, but so were Tony Dungy, Reggie White,Kurt Warner...

The real problem with Tebow(beyond his unwillingness to try to learn another position) was that he was probably good enoigh to be a back up and he's a great locker room guy and leader, but his specific skill set really changes your offense, so while he may be far better at what he does than a fair number of back ups in the league are at being a standard QB, he does something so different than the majority of starters around the league, he's just not a great fit as a backup anywhere. Seattle maybe? Russell Wilson's game is probably the most similar to Tebow among current starters and Tebow is a lot of things, but he's not Russell Wilson.

Ok. First I never said Tebow was a good QB. He was a winner. I still don't understand what the problem with that is. He won games, isn't that the point of all this.

As for your point of many guys being religious, yes many people "talk" about being religious and I'm sure they are great Christians, but Tim Tebow lives it in every aspect of his life or at least he portrays that he does. That is the difference. And let's not ignore that he is good looking white virgin. Christians, especially white ones, many in my own family, paid too much attention to him causing the media to report everything he did and in turn NFL coaches and front offices to not want the distractions.

I agree with your assessment about being a backup though. He wouldn't have been a good one.
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RE: Who you prefer as CUSA Commish?
(03-19-2017 12:47 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 05:59 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 05:03 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 02:03 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  CUSA's expansion was predicated on the long game.

That's a stupid strategy.

the g5/cusa screwed the pooch when we didn't 'uber' align with the mwc....would've generated more leverage

as always, jmo

I agree, and wonder if that is a strategy that can still be pursued. Some kind of "affiliation" between CUSA and the MWC in football.

Before you say "what's in it for the MWC?", let me quickly explain. I believe the MWC still has the same problem it (and the WAC) always had; because their games are played in the Mountain and Pacific time zones they are mostly "out of site, out of mind", and thereby ignored by the east coast media and the American public. (This was a big problem for LA Tech when we were playing games out west in the WAC.) But, by forging a strong football schedule affiliation with CUSA, it seems to me that the MWC could realize many valuable media exposure benefits from playing CUSA's east coast and deep south teams in eastern and central time zones.

So what would it look like? Would it be as simple as everyone plays one OOC game vs a MWC team every year? Or did you have something else in mind? (I wouldn't mind beating Fresno once or twice.)
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RE: Who you prefer as CUSA Commish?
(03-19-2017 04:42 PM)techdawg28 Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 12:47 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 05:59 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 05:03 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 02:03 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  CUSA's expansion was predicated on the long game.

That's a stupid strategy.

the g5/cusa screwed the pooch when we didn't 'uber' align with the mwc....would've generated more leverage

as always, jmo

I agree, and wonder if that is a strategy that can still be pursued. Some kind of "affiliation" between CUSA and the MWC in football.

Before you say "what's in it for the MWC?", let me quickly explain. I believe the MWC still has the same problem it (and the WAC) always had; because their games are played in the Mountain and Pacific time zones they are mostly "out of site, out of mind", and thereby ignored by the east coast media and the American public. (This was a big problem for LA Tech when we were playing games out west in the WAC.) But, by forging a strong football schedule affiliation with CUSA, it seems to me that the MWC could realize many valuable media exposure benefits from playing CUSA's east coast and deep south teams in eastern and central time zones.

So what would it look like? Would it be as simple as everyone plays one OOC game vs a MWC team every year? Or did you have something else in mind? (I wouldn't mind beating Fresno once or twice.)

no....but possibly forming a super conference before the elite attempt to make their move would challenge the thinking from the bottom tier p5s....therefore, opening up a more equitable playoff system moving forward or thwarting a split via antitrust violation...

that's my take in simple terms...there's much more to it, but that's the gist....
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(03-19-2017 05:38 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 04:42 PM)techdawg28 Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 12:47 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 05:59 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 05:03 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  That's a stupid strategy.

the g5/cusa screwed the pooch when we didn't 'uber' align with the mwc....would've generated more leverage

as always, jmo

I agree, and wonder if that is a strategy that can still be pursued. Some kind of "affiliation" between CUSA and the MWC in football.

Before you say "what's in it for the MWC?", let me quickly explain. I believe the MWC still has the same problem it (and the WAC) always had; because their games are played in the Mountain and Pacific time zones they are mostly "out of site, out of mind", and thereby ignored by the east coast media and the American public. (This was a big problem for LA Tech when we were playing games out west in the WAC.) But, by forging a strong football schedule affiliation with CUSA, it seems to me that the MWC could realize many valuable media exposure benefits from playing CUSA's east coast and deep south teams in eastern and central time zones.

So what would it look like? Would it be as simple as everyone plays one OOC game vs a MWC team every year? Or did you have something else in mind? (I wouldn't mind beating Fresno once or twice.)

no....but possibly forming a super conference before the elite attempt to make their move would challenge the thinking from the bottom tier p5s....therefore, opening up a more equitable playoff system moving forward or thwarting a split via antitrust violation...

that's my take in simple terms...there's much more to it, but that's the gist....

I thought the reason they backed down from that was because they'd have to forfeit a bid to the NCAA tournament, etc.
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(03-19-2017 08:38 PM)techdawg28 Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 05:38 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 04:42 PM)techdawg28 Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 12:47 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 05:59 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  the g5/cusa screwed the pooch when we didn't 'uber' align with the mwc....would've generated more leverage

as always, jmo

I agree, and wonder if that is a strategy that can still be pursued. Some kind of "affiliation" between CUSA and the MWC in football.

Before you say "what's in it for the MWC?", let me quickly explain. I believe the MWC still has the same problem it (and the WAC) always had; because their games are played in the Mountain and Pacific time zones they are mostly "out of site, out of mind", and thereby ignored by the east coast media and the American public. (This was a big problem for LA Tech when we were playing games out west in the WAC.) But, by forging a strong football schedule affiliation with CUSA, it seems to me that the MWC could realize many valuable media exposure benefits from playing CUSA's east coast and deep south teams in eastern and central time zones.

So what would it look like? Would it be as simple as everyone plays one OOC game vs a MWC team every year? Or did you have something else in mind? (I wouldn't mind beating Fresno once or twice.)

no....but possibly forming a super conference before the elite attempt to make their move would challenge the thinking from the bottom tier p5s....therefore, opening up a more equitable playoff system moving forward or thwarting a split via antitrust violation...

that's my take in simple terms...there's much more to it, but that's the gist....

I thought the reason they backed down from that was because they'd have to forfeit a bid to the NCAA tournament, etc.

like I mentioned, there was much more to it....however, the point being is the lack of merging has played out exactly as many expected...there is no question that concessions had to be made....however, there isn't a g5 conference that has any clout at this point....it may have worked out differently if a g5 super conference had been formed before all the realignment bs played out...

IMO, it still makes sense at this point to form a super conference before the p5 tv contracts expire (when things will really get nuts)....the soon-to-be-remaining schools need to begin thinking how to work together once the flagship elite break off (which I think is a gimme at this point)

then again, I could be completely wrong how things play out in a few years...
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The truly REMARKABLE thing about this poll is the fact that Judy got 3 votes. What the hell were you 3 people thinking? 03-lmfao
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(03-21-2017 08:39 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  The truly REMARKABLE thing about this poll is the fact that Judy got 3 votes. What the hell were you 3 people thinking? 03-lmfao

Most people didn't vote, myself included, but I'm certain Benson couldn't do any better.

I'll save you the trouble...

Well he couldn't do any worse...
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