(03-19-2017 12:15 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Mack ain't leaving x

If Indiana comes calling he would.

(03-19-2017 12:49 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  

(03-19-2017 12:15 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Mack ain't leaving x

If Indiana comes calling he would.

Yep. He would. Traditional power school with the $ and facilities that goes with it. No way XU could come up enough $ to keep him. The kind of $ that would set his family up for a long time...

It's a top 10 basketball job at a basketball school.

Mick would listen if IU came calling too.

(03-19-2017 01:08 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(03-19-2017 12:49 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  

(03-19-2017 12:15 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Mack ain't leaving x

If Indiana comes calling he would.

Yep. He would. Traditional power school with the $ and facilities that goes with it. No way XU could come up enough $ to keep him. The kind of $ that would set his family up for a long time...

It's a top 10 basketball job at a basketball school.

Mick would listen if IU came calling too.

Absolutely. There are only a few coaches out there that wouldnt take their call.

(03-19-2017 12:14 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(03-19-2017 12:06 PM)jarr Wrote:  Question: Keep hearing that the IU job isn't what it used to be. Other than the on court results the last 25 years, is there more more to it?

Some things I hear from IU fans, for what it's worth: they are consistently out-recruited in state for the best players in recent years; other B10 programs have emerged as highly competitive, especially the rise of Michigan State; facilities are lacking. I'm not in a position to evaluate these comments. I know Assembly Hall just got a pretty significant makeover so I'm guessing the facility comment relates more to practice areas, dorms, etc.

Having said all this, it's an excellent school, great campus and big-time tradition. As with so many places the right coach could put them back in the top ten consistently.

I don't want to speak for him, but I seem to recall gametime not long ago suggesting that UL and maybe IU were the only schools he thought might be able to pry Mick away. Maybe he can clarify if he reads this.

If I'm the IU AD, Mick, Mack and the Miller brothers are my first calls. I don't know what the odds are of any of them accepting, but I'd make them say no before moving on to the next tier.

(03-19-2017 01:13 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(03-19-2017 12:14 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(03-19-2017 12:06 PM)jarr Wrote:  Question: Keep hearing that the IU job isn't what it used to be. Other than the on court results the last 25 years, is there more more to it?

Some things I hear from IU fans, for what it's worth: they are consistently out-recruited in state for the best players in recent years; other B10 programs have emerged as highly competitive, especially the rise of Michigan State; facilities are lacking. I'm not in a position to evaluate these comments. I know Assembly Hall just got a pretty significant makeover so I'm guessing the facility comment relates more to practice areas, dorms, etc.

Having said all this, it's an excellent school, great campus and big-time tradition. As with so many places the right coach could put them back in the top ten consistently.

I don't want to speak for him, but I seem to recall gametime not long ago suggesting that UL and maybe IU were the only schools he thought might be able to pry Mick away. Maybe he can clarify if he reads this.

If I'm the IU AD, Mick, Mack and the Miller brothers are my first calls. I don't know what the odds are of any of them accepting, but I'd make them say no before moving on to the next tier.

Come on Hawk. Ain't no way IU is calling Mick in their first or second round of choices. I like Mick and root for him but he hasn't accomplished what IU would be looking for.

(03-19-2017 12:14 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(03-19-2017 12:06 PM)jarr Wrote:  Question: Keep hearing that the IU job isn't what it used to be. Other than the on court results the last 25 years, is there more more to it?

Some things I hear from IU fans, for what it's worth: they are consistently out-recruited in state for the best players in recent years; other B10 programs have emerged as highly competitive, especially the rise of Michigan State; facilities are lacking. I'm not in a position to evaluate these comments. I know Assembly Hall just got a pretty significant makeover so I'm guessing the facility comment relates more to practice areas, dorms, etc.

Having said all this, it's an excellent school, great campus and big-time tradition. As with so many places the right coach could put them back in the top ten consistently.

All these jobs aren't what they used to be when they're struggling, then they get a great coach and all of a sudden they're elite again. Look at Kentucky pre-Calipari. They've got Big 10 money and are in one of the few states where basketball will always be king. Mack has already out recruited Big 10 schools for Indiana players like Bluitt so you'd have to think he could take it to another level at IU. I think it's a perfect fit for both sides.

(03-19-2017 11:25 AM)UCBearcat4ever Wrote:  Washington got Mike Hopkins (coach in waiting at Syracuse for Boeheim) Interesting

An article said that Boeheim hasn't really been making the preparatory moves that you would expect of a coach stepping down after next year. Hopkins might have thought he was pulling a Jay Leno. Wouldn't put it past him.

(03-19-2017 01:24 PM)EffinBJ Wrote:  

(03-19-2017 11:25 AM)UCBearcat4ever Wrote:  Washington got Mike Hopkins (coach in waiting at Syracuse for Boeheim) Interesting

An article said that Boeheim hasn't really been making the preparatory moves that you would expect of a coach stepping down after next year. Hopkins might have thought he was pulling a Jay Leno. Wouldn't put it past him.

That's my guess. Boeheim has no intentions to actually retire.

(03-19-2017 01:16 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(03-19-2017 01:13 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(03-19-2017 12:14 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(03-19-2017 12:06 PM)jarr Wrote:  Question: Keep hearing that the IU job isn't what it used to be. Other than the on court results the last 25 years, is there more more to it?

Some things I hear from IU fans, for what it's worth: they are consistently out-recruited in state for the best players in recent years; other B10 programs have emerged as highly competitive, especially the rise of Michigan State; facilities are lacking. I'm not in a position to evaluate these comments. I know Assembly Hall just got a pretty significant makeover so I'm guessing the facility comment relates more to practice areas, dorms, etc.

Having said all this, it's an excellent school, great campus and big-time tradition. As with so many places the right coach could put them back in the top ten consistently.

I don't want to speak for him, but I seem to recall gametime not long ago suggesting that UL and maybe IU were the only schools he thought might be able to pry Mick away. Maybe he can clarify if he reads this.

If I'm the IU AD, Mick, Mack and the Miller brothers are my first calls. I don't know what the odds are of any of them accepting, but I'd make them say no before moving on to the next tier.

Come on Hawk. Ain't no way IU is calling Mick in their first or second round of choices. I like Mick and root for him but he hasn't accomplished what IU would be looking for.

Depends upon how you define tiers to an extent. Alford is his first call based upon what he's looking for. But I think Mick is right there with those other three in terms of desirability (especially after we win tonight). Obviously tourney success is a huge issue, but I think in most cases it's a function of small sample size, luck, injuries, match-ups and officiating rather than head coaching magic/talent. We reload annually and a run is going to come, maybe even this year in fact.

dbag on espn radio said "If UK cant beat Wichita St, how in the world will they beat UCLA ot UNC?!"

1. They wont dude...if they lose to the Shockers they go home.
2. Nice job assuming UC has zero shot.

Moron

(03-19-2017 01:24 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(03-19-2017 12:14 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(03-19-2017 12:06 PM)jarr Wrote:  Question: Keep hearing that the IU job isn't what it used to be. Other than the on court results the last 25 years, is there more more to it?

Some things I hear from IU fans, for what it's worth: they are consistently out-recruited in state for the best players in recent years; other B10 programs have emerged as highly competitive, especially the rise of Michigan State; facilities are lacking. I'm not in a position to evaluate these comments. I know Assembly Hall just got a pretty significant makeover so I'm guessing the facility comment relates more to practice areas, dorms, etc.

Having said all this, it's an excellent school, great campus and big-time tradition. As with so many places the right coach could put them back in the top ten consistently.

All these jobs aren't what they used to be when they're struggling, then they get a great coach and all of a sudden they're elite again. Look at Kentucky pre-Calipari. They've got Big 10 money and are in one of the few states where basketball will always be king. Mack has already out recruited Big 10 schools for Indiana players like Bluitt so you'd have to think he could take it to another level at IU. I think it's a perfect fit for both sides.

Wasn't the same thing said about Crean?

(03-19-2017 07:09 AM)jarr Wrote:  

(03-18-2017 03:18 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  Brad Underwood leaving Oklahoma State to go to Illinois.

Whoa! That one shocked me, and then I found found out Underwood was being paid peanuts by the Cowboys

I think he was making more money as actor.

(03-19-2017 01:47 PM)eroc Wrote:  Wasn't the same thing said about Crean?

Yes. But sometimes you make the right hire and it still doesn't work out. Keep in mind Crean rose to prominence behind and NBA Hall of Fame player. The odds of any coach getting that level of player is small no matter how good you recruit. Maybe he wasn't as good as everyone thought.

IDK what happened to IU this year. They beat Kansas and UNC OOC, then they had one good starter get injured....missed the season? I think Crean is a solid HC.

(03-19-2017 02:04 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  Keep in mind Crean rose to prominence behind and NBA Hall of Fame player. The odds of any coach getting that level of player is small no matter how good you recruit. Maybe he wasn't as good as everyone thought.

Can't agree with that. Crean's teams were a handful well before Wade got there. The subsequent Buzz Williams teams were a pretty seamless continuation of how Marquette played under Crean as well. Great guard play and versatile, if undersized big men.

FWIW. Swaim is already pimping Gottleib for Oklahoma State.

Sam Mayes‏ @AllmericanMayes

Talking to some Indiana fans here in Indianapolis about the job opening and Billy Donovan's name keeps coming up. No way in hell right?

GREG SWAIM SHOW‏ @GSwaim 3h3 hours ago

Shocked if it's anyone besides Steve Alford.

(03-19-2017 04:55 PM)EffinBJ Wrote:  

(03-19-2017 02:04 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  Keep in mind Crean rose to prominence behind and NBA Hall of Fame player. The odds of any coach getting that level of player is small no matter how good you recruit. Maybe he wasn't as good as everyone thought.

Can't agree with that. Crean's teams were a handful well before Wade got there. The subsequent Buzz Williams teams were a pretty seamless continuation of how Marquette played under Crean as well. Great guard play and versatile, if undersized big men.

Pre-Dwayne Wade he never made the tournament. Post-Wade he stayed at Marquette 5 seasons- two NIT berths, 2 first round NCAA losses, and a second round loss. Seems to me his resume without Wade may not be terrible but isn't blue blood worthy

is gregg marshall seriously not a candidate for the iu gig?

(03-20-2017 07:30 AM)Lush Wrote:  is gregg marshall seriously not a candidate for the iu gig?

He is one if the highest paid coaches in college basketball. He has turned down countless P5 jobs already. Not saying he isnt ever leaving but its clear he has something very specific in mind if he does and it isbt IU. He can do better than that and will.

Here's hoping X gets to the elite 8 then loses their coach like each of the past 2 times they've made it. Then they have a tuberville hire.