(03-08-2017 02:59 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  The grad transfer rule makes it somewhat easier to be competent in the NOW...if a coach wants to be.

You should have passed that on to Pearl a couple of years ago.

(03-08-2017 12:32 PM)Ttaylor Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 11:03 AM)cmt Wrote:  I think the last time I tried to care was before we were embarrassed by Virginia, but I knew better.

I spent most of my life, with very few exceptions (Tic), anxiously awaiting March Madness. Even when we weren't good, we weren't bad and I always thought we had a chance. Losing to St Louis, Michigan State and Virginia and not having but 3 or 4 really good wins over anybody the last 8 years has made this time of year depressing.

I hope that Tubby only gets year 3 ( 1 down, 2 to go) to prove he can recruit somebody.

I really think that we are as bad as we have been, or worse, in over 40 years.

And this irrational assumption is predicated upon what basis? The guy hasn't been here a full season yet. Is it factual evidence regarding Tubby's ability to recruit or hearsay by the miserables' hatred of the guy? Great coaches don't need all 5* recruits to win, ask CJP who had many 4 and 5* players?

Actually yes, Tubby has now had a full season.

(03-08-2017 12:47 PM)Crazier Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 12:39 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 11:03 AM)cmt Wrote:  I think the last time I tried to care was before we were embarrassed by Virginia, but I knew better.

I spent most of my life, with very few exceptions (Tic), anxiously awaiting March Madness. Even when we weren't good, we weren't bad and I always thought we had a chance. Losing to St Louis, Michigan State and Virginia and not having but 3 or 4 really good wins over anybody the last 8 years has made this time of year depressing.

I hope that Tubby only gets year 3 ( 1 down, 2 to go) to prove he can recruit somebody.

I really think that we are as bad as we have been, or worse, in over 40 years.

If you were not happy making 4 straight NCAAs (no matter who the coach was) and feel good about waiting until '19 at best to make it again, I have so sympathy for you. I also live for NCAA tournament and I'm unhappy right now; I was very happy going to 4 straight tourneys.

It was kinda embarrassing getting destroyed on national tv for most of those years though.

Exactly

(03-08-2017 03:13 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  You don't truly think he is going to forgo over $13M remaining on his deal over the next four years do you? Tubby has never made the big bucks that many coaches have recently. He will want every nickel due him.

Do you just make things up on the fly? Tubby has been WELL compensated for at least 13 years. In 2003, UK gave him a nice raise to $2.5M and made him the highest paid coach in the country. He's made $30M since that raise. Not sure what he made before then, but it wasn't chump change.

(03-08-2017 03:37 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 03:13 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  You don't truly think he is going to forgo over $13M remaining on his deal over the next four years do you? Tubby has never made the big bucks that many coaches have recently. He will want every nickel due him.

Do you just make things up on the fly? Tubby has been WELL compensated for at least 13 years. In 2003, UK gave him a nice raise to $2.5M and made him the highest paid coach in the country. He's made $30M since that raise. Not sure what he made before then, but it wasn't chump change.

Cal, Coach K, make that in 3 years. I guess you could say well compensated for a double digit loss every year coach. And we are overpaying the market by far for him and he is bitching about tough fans and "distractions ". Pisses me off for a $3M a year coach to complain about such.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/...-the-team/

That bonus was on top of an annual salary in the neighborhood of $2 million, which Minnesota seems to feel is far too much for a coach who has failed to find postseason success year after year. (Sound familiar?)

http://latenighthoops.com/guns-up-tubby-smith/

Tubby Smith agreed this week to become head coach of the Texas Tech men’s basketball team. He’ll start off earning $1.6 million in guaranteed compensation. That amount is scheduled to increase by $100,000 each year through the 2018-19 season.

(03-08-2017 03:17 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 02:52 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Could we see a repeat of Tubby's tactic of skipping town (e.g., Minnesota and KY) when his seat heats?

He didn't skip town in Minny. He was let go. And the AD later admitted he was wrong about the treatment.

You are correct, thanks.

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday....y/2018455/

(03-08-2017 11:17 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Find 2-3 mid-majors to root for come bracket time.

Wichita and Gonzaga come to mind.

Gonzaga may be in a mid major conference but by no means should they be considered a mid major. If you offered me Mark Few over anybody else in the country , I just might say yes.

(03-08-2017 03:52 PM)Rufus T. Firefly Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 11:17 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Find 2-3 mid-majors to root for come bracket time.

Wichita and Gonzaga come to mind.

Gonzaga may be in a mid major conference but by no means should they be considered a mid major. If you offered me Mark Few over anybody else in the country , I just might say yes.

Few would be in the fetal position inside of a week of becoming HC at Memphis. This ain't his type of town nor his type of gig.

(03-08-2017 04:06 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 03:52 PM)Rufus T. Firefly Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 11:17 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Find 2-3 mid-majors to root for come bracket time.

Wichita and Gonzaga come to mind.

Gonzaga may be in a mid major conference but by no means should they be considered a mid major. If you offered me Mark Few over anybody else in the country , I just might say yes.

Few would be in the fetal position inside of a week of becoming HC at Memphis. This ain't his type of town nor his type of gig.

Lol. Right about that. We need a coach who is as mean as a junk yard dog. Like a Huggins type personality.

(03-08-2017 04:06 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 03:52 PM)Rufus T. Firefly Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 11:17 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Find 2-3 mid-majors to root for come bracket time.

Wichita and Gonzaga come to mind.

Gonzaga may be in a mid major conference but by no means should they be considered a mid major. If you offered me Mark Few over anybody else in the country , I just might say yes.

Few would be in the fetal position inside of a week of becoming HC at Memphis. This ain't his type of town nor his type of gig.

Damn, BBalls we agree on something!

(03-08-2017 03:02 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 03:01 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 02:59 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 02:52 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Could we see a repeat of Tubby's tactic of skipping town (e.g., Minnesota and KY) when his seat heats?

If I were him, I would leave at the most missoppertuned time I could, for finding a new coach.

There is a reason he didn't sign a contract.

Are you even a Tiger fan?

One of the few on here, apparently.

"Fans", have been treating the man like sh!t since he got the job.

Are people putting "for sale signs" in his front yard or egging his house. Are they going to the coach's show to heckle him?

How, exactly, are fans treating him poorly?

(03-08-2017 11:03 AM)cmt Wrote:  I think the last time I tried to care was before we were embarrassed by Virginia, but I knew better.

I spent most of my life, with very few exceptions (Tic), anxiously awaiting March Madness. Even when we weren't good, we weren't bad and I always thought we had a chance. Losing to St Louis, Michigan State and Virginia and not having but 3 or 4 really good wins over anybody the last 8 years has made this time of year depressing.

I hope that Tubby only gets year 3 ( 1 down, 2 to go) to prove he can recruit somebody.

I really think that we are as bad as we have been, or worse, in over 40 years.

take up fishing or golf. It is spring (almost).

(03-08-2017 04:37 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 03:02 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 03:01 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 02:59 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 02:52 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Could we see a repeat of Tubby's tactic of skipping town (e.g., Minnesota and KY) when his seat heats?

If I were him, I would leave at the most missoppertuned time I could, for finding a new coach.

There is a reason he didn't sign a contract.

Are you even a Tiger fan?

One of the few on here, apparently.

"Fans", have been treating the man like sh!t since he got the job.

Are people putting "for sale signs" in his front yard or egging his house. Are they going to the coach's show to heckle him?

How, exactly, are fans treating him poorly?

Not that I don't understand, but contrast fan support and comments with Pastner's first 10 months.

Wonder what Pearl has had to deal with at auburn for his first 3 years.

The tweet by one of the writers after the smu loss referencing this board.

These kids are having to listen to this ****, why would they want to play for Memphis?

(03-08-2017 04:59 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 04:37 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 03:02 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 03:01 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 02:59 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  If I were him, I would leave at the most missoppertuned time I could, for finding a new coach.

There is a reason he didn't sign a contract.

Are you even a Tiger fan?

One of the few on here, apparently.

"Fans", have been treating the man like sh!t since he got the job.

Are people putting "for sale signs" in his front yard or egging his house. Are they going to the coach's show to heckle him?

How, exactly, are fans treating him poorly?

Not that I don't understand, but contrast fan support and comments with Pastner's first 10 months.

Wonder what Pearl has had to deal with at auburn for his first 3 years.

The tweet by one of the writers after the smu loss referencing this board.

These kids are having to listen to this ****, why would they want to play for Memphis?

Opie hangover is a big part of it.

Tubby's not a salesman. You have to ask for and work for support not just feel like you're entitled to it.

I'd bet nobody that matters is reading this board. If they are then they are in the wrong line of work.

(03-08-2017 05:58 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 04:59 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 04:37 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 03:02 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 03:01 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  Are you even a Tiger fan?

One of the few on here, apparently.

"Fans", have been treating the man like sh!t since he got the job.

Are people putting "for sale signs" in his front yard or egging his house. Are they going to the coach's show to heckle him?

How, exactly, are fans treating him poorly?

Not that I don't understand, but contrast fan support and comments with Pastner's first 10 months.

Wonder what Pearl has had to deal with at auburn for his first 3 years.

The tweet by one of the writers after the smu loss referencing this board.

These kids are having to listen to this ****, why would they want to play for Memphis?

Opie hangover is a big part of it.

Tubby's not a salesman. You have to ask for and work for support not just feel like you're entitled to it.

I'd bet nobody that matters is reading this board. If they are then they are in the wrong line of work.

Current players and local kids may.

My opinion would be that we could all enjoy this time of year again if we were realistic about our individual expectations of the team.
For me personally, Christmas came in April of 16 when the previous coach left. Tubby was a great hire, to me, and I certainly feel we will be an ncaa tournament team as early as next year with Tubby leading the way.
I had zero expectations this year. None. I figured we'd be 20-15 ish give or take a couple of games and we'd have an upward trajectory for the next few years and then some under this coach. I'm optimistic for the future of the program under Tubby. He's a class guy, role model and a helluva PROVEN basketball coach.
I'm totally confident he will get players in here that he can work with and can improve. He's got a good recruiting class started and I'd bet he signs at least 2 more. I think the program is in great hands.

(03-08-2017 03:42 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 03:37 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 03:13 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  You don't truly think he is going to forgo over $13M remaining on his deal over the next four years do you? Tubby has never made the big bucks that many coaches have recently. He will want every nickel due him.

Do you just make things up on the fly? Tubby has been WELL compensated for at least 13 years. In 2003, UK gave him a nice raise to $2.5M and made him the highest paid coach in the country. He's made $30M since that raise. Not sure what he made before then, but it wasn't chump change.

Cal, Coach K, make that in 3 years. I guess you could say well compensated for a double digit loss every year coach. And we are overpaying the market by far for him and he is bitching about tough fans and "distractions ". Pisses me off for a $3M a year coach to complain about such.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/...-the-team/

That bonus was on top of an annual salary in the neighborhood of $2 million, which Minnesota seems to feel is far too much for a coach who has failed to find postseason success year after year. (Sound familiar?)

http://latenighthoops.com/guns-up-tubby-smith/

Tubby Smith agreed this week to become head coach of the Texas Tech men’s basketball team. He’ll start off earning $1.6 million in guaranteed compensation. That amount is scheduled to increase by $100,000 each year through the 2018-19 season.

Dude. You said "Tubby has never made the big bucks that many coaches have". You were patently wrong about this. He's averaged over $2M for the past decade and a half. Just talking off the top of your head.

(03-08-2017 02:59 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 02:52 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Could we see a repeat of Tubby's tactic of skipping town (e.g., Minnesota and KY) when his seat heats?

If I were him, I would leave at the most missoppertuned time I could, for finding a new coach.

There is a reason he didn't sign a contract.

Absolutely. They call themselves Tiger fans. He said the expectations are the worst he's ever seen. Not even @ Kentucky, which has a winning tradition. This is horrible in every sense of the word. A few rotten apples, loud mouth miserables who can't get over their man crush on Pastner. Just freaking pathetic. Memphis will always be a small town, hill billy city as long as these small minded, hill billy psychopaths have a venue to spew their self-righteous idiotic bull****.

Regardless of the coach or the team's performance, I encourage everyone to contribute to the TSF and buy season tickets as means allow. Shortly after the SMU debacle I made my annual TSF donation and increased the amount a bit from last year. I figure the program needs all the help it can muster.

(03-08-2017 03:01 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 02:59 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 02:52 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Could we see a repeat of Tubby's tactic of skipping town (e.g., Minnesota and KY) when his seat heats?

If I were him, I would leave at the most missoppertuned time I could, for finding a new coach.

There is a reason he didn't sign a contract.

Are you even a Tiger fan?

No, the question is are you along with the other miserables masquerading as Tiger fans actually Tiger fans?