Hadn't really thought about it, but take a look at the standings.

1. UNCW
2. CofC
3. Towson
4. William and Mary
5. Elon

Towson is the only "northern" school in the top five. Furthermore, the two newcomers to the CAA, College of Charleston and Elon, have risen to the top half of the conference pretty quickly.

Delaware, Drexel, Hofstra, NU are all bringing up the rear. Yes, I realize two new coaches are at the helm, but the quick rise of CofC and Elon is pretty impressive, and bodes well for the CAA as a whole.

(03-01-2017 01:14 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Hadn't really thought about it, but take a look at the standings.

1. UNCW
2. CofC
3. Towson
4. William and Mary
5. Elon

Towson is the only "northern" school in the top five. Furthermore, the two newcomers to the CAA, College of Charleston and Elon, have risen to the top half of the conference pretty quickly.

Delaware, Drexel, Hofstra, NU are all bringing up the rear. Yes, I realize two new coaches are at the helm, but the quick rise of CofC and Elon is pretty impressive, and bodes well for the CAA as a whole.

With Elon, it's especially impressive this season as they lost someone who was likely to be first or 2nd team all CAA in Bryant.

If healthy, Northeastern would have been up there, but I agree with the premise. I do like the future for Drexel. Not so much for Hofstra. Delaware...meh, we'll see.

Charleston will be loaded next year, and Elon will be really good too. Their only significant loss to graduation will be Luke Eddy. Brian Dawkins will be a Senior, with Seibring, Santa Ana and Swoope as Juniors. Very solid core coming back for them. Could you imagine if they still had Elijah Bryant?

Did Elijah Bryant sit out this year or last year?

He transferred to BYU so he'd have had to sit out this year.

(03-01-2017 01:48 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  He transferred to BYU so he'd have had to sit out this year.

Thanks, it felt like I was still in California his freshman year for some reason. He's gonna be good at BYU. Elon would have been really good had he stayed.

Add to this the new basketball arena coming to Elon, and the conference appears to be in an upward swing.

(03-01-2017 03:16 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Add to this the new basketball arena coming to Elon, and the conference appears to be in an upward swing.

Not somewhere I want to see UNCW staying long term though. Hope there's an opportunity for that in the next few years.

(03-01-2017 01:48 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  He transferred to BYU so he'd have had to sit out this year.

Guys he's played for BYU all season. He's averaging 11 pts a game.

He sat out last year.

(03-01-2017 01:14 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Hadn't really thought about it, but take a look at the standings.

1. UNCW
2. CofC
3. Towson
4. William and Mary
5. Elon

Towson is the only "northern" school in the top five. Furthermore, the two newcomers to the CAA, College of Charleston and Elon, have risen to the top half of the conference pretty quickly.

Delaware, Drexel, Hofstra, NU are all bringing up the rear. Yes, I realize two new coaches are at the helm, but the quick rise of CofC and Elon is pretty impressive, and bodes well for the CAA as a whole.

NU is "bringing up the rear"? Really?

Take Cacock off your team for most of the league games and have Talley or Bryce miss the last 4 games of the season and Flemmings miss a game or two in conference, see how gaudy your W/L record would be?

That said, we'll be a tough out for anyone in Charleston.

(03-01-2017 09:28 PM)geewizNU Wrote:  NU is "bringing up the rear"? Really?

Take Cacock off your team for most of the league games and have Talley or Bryce miss the last 4 games of the season and Flemmings miss a game or two in conference, see how gaudy your W/L record would be?

That said, we'll be a tough out for anyone in Charleston.

1) We'd still have Ingram, Mosley, Jaylen Fornes, Chuck Ogbodo, JaQuel Richmond and Marcus Bryan fully healthy all year in that scenario. Not bad. I think we'd manage to go 11-7 or so.

2) You can't have it both ways. On one hand, you've stated that you'll be having a "short stay" in Charleston, but now you'll be a "tough out"?

This Seahawk fan would love to play a depleted and tired NU on Monday.

(03-01-2017 09:43 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 09:28 PM)geewizNU Wrote:  NU is "bringing up the rear"? Really?

Take Cacock off your team for most of the league games and have Talley or Bryce miss the last 4 games of the season and Flemmings miss a game or two in conference, see how gaudy your W/L record would be?

That said, we'll be a tough out for anyone in Charleston.

1) We'd still have Ingram, Mosley, Jaylen Fornes, Chuck Ogbodo, JaQuel Richmond and Marcus Bryan fully healthy all year in that scenario. Not bad. I think we'd manage to go 11-7 or so.

2) You can't have it both ways. On one hand, you've stated that you'll be having a "short stay" in Charleston, but now you'll be a "tough out"?

You'd be asking players who are role players to play big minutes they're not used to. You can't judge how they play in role minutes and translate to starter minutes.

I'm not expecting us to win the tournament at all, but beating us won't be easy. That's what I'm saying. We won't lay down even shorthanded, but winning 3 straight is a tall order.

Talking facts here, not emotion. Regardless of the reasons, the southern schools occupy the top spots in the CAA. And regardless of the reason, CofC and Elon have risen quickly in the CAA standings.

Keatts first year at UNCW he lost a Tennessee transfer at center just as the season started. One who would have been a for sure starter and likely 1st teamer. His second year, he lost another transfer as the season started. Arguably one who would have been the best player on the team. Every team suffers losses and setbacks. As mentioned, Elon lost Elijah Bryant and managed to overcome the loss and finish in 5th.

I'm just happy to see that our additions to the CAA are rising and bringing competition to the conference. If we want to get back to more than one NCAA bid we need that. If the statistics were reversed, and Towson, NU, Hofstra, Delaware and Drexel had finished in the top 5, I would have noted that as well.

(03-01-2017 01:14 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Hadn't really thought about it, but take a look at the standings.

1. UNCW
2. CofC
3. Towson
4. William and Mary
5. Elon

Towson is the only "northern" school in the top five. Furthermore, the two newcomers to the CAA, College of Charleston and Elon, have risen to the top half of the conference pretty quickly.

Delaware, Drexel, Hofstra, NU are all bringing up the rear. Yes, I realize two new coaches are at the helm, but the quick rise of CofC and Elon is pretty impressive, and bodes well for the CAA as a whole.

Towson would probably reject being considered a Southern school, but they're not Northern either. Since they're below the Mason-Dixon, I petition that we count them as a Southern school and claim the top 5 spots in the basketball standings.

(03-02-2017 07:32 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 01:14 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Hadn't really thought about it, but take a look at the standings.

1. UNCW
2. CofC
3. Towson
4. William and Mary
5. Elon

Towson is the only "northern" school in the top five. Furthermore, the two newcomers to the CAA, College of Charleston and Elon, have risen to the top half of the conference pretty quickly.

Delaware, Drexel, Hofstra, NU are all bringing up the rear. Yes, I realize two new coaches are at the helm, but the quick rise of CofC and Elon is pretty impressive, and bodes well for the CAA as a whole.

Towson would probably reject being considered a Southern school, but they're not Northern either. Since they're below the Mason-Dixon, I petition that we count them as a Southern school and claim the top 5 spots in the basketball standings.

I thought the same when i first read it yesterday. Every Southerner's boundary seems to be the Mason Dixon

(03-02-2017 07:58 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 07:32 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 01:14 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Hadn't really thought about it, but take a look at the standings.

1. UNCW
2. CofC
3. Towson
4. William and Mary
5. Elon

Towson is the only "northern" school in the top five. Furthermore, the two newcomers to the CAA, College of Charleston and Elon, have risen to the top half of the conference pretty quickly.

Delaware, Drexel, Hofstra, NU are all bringing up the rear. Yes, I realize two new coaches are at the helm, but the quick rise of CofC and Elon is pretty impressive, and bodes well for the CAA as a whole.

Towson would probably reject being considered a Southern school, but they're not Northern either. Since they're below the Mason-Dixon, I petition that we count them as a Southern school and claim the top 5 spots in the basketball standings.

I thought the same when i first read it yesterday. Every Southerner's boundary seems to be the Mason Dixon

Which is true but you guys and everyone else have always lumped them in as one of the northern teams since they came over the same time. Can't have it both ways. As someone who grew up closer to Towson than any other CAA team that area is definitely a tweener where they are not north but not really considered southern either. Maryland as a whole is seen as the border between north and south, seemingly.

(03-02-2017 08:04 AM)dan10 Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 07:58 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 07:32 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 01:14 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Hadn't really thought about it, but take a look at the standings.

1. UNCW
2. CofC
3. Towson
4. William and Mary
5. Elon

Towson is the only "northern" school in the top five. Furthermore, the two newcomers to the CAA, College of Charleston and Elon, have risen to the top half of the conference pretty quickly.

Delaware, Drexel, Hofstra, NU are all bringing up the rear. Yes, I realize two new coaches are at the helm, but the quick rise of CofC and Elon is pretty impressive, and bodes well for the CAA as a whole.

Towson would probably reject being considered a Southern school, but they're not Northern either. Since they're below the Mason-Dixon, I petition that we count them as a Southern school and claim the top 5 spots in the basketball standings.

I thought the same when i first read it yesterday. Every Southerner's boundary seems to be the Mason Dixon

Which is true but you guys and everyone else have always lumped them in as one of the northern teams since they came over the same time. Can't have it both ways. As someone who grew up closer to Towson than any other CAA team that area is definitely a tweener where they are not north but not really considered southern either. Maryland as a whole is seen as the border between north and south, seemingly.

oh i know! I'm a Yankee, spent the first 23 years of my life in the Northeast.

(03-02-2017 08:04 AM)dan10 Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 07:58 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 07:32 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 01:14 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Hadn't really thought about it, but take a look at the standings.

1. UNCW
2. CofC
3. Towson
4. William and Mary
5. Elon

Towson is the only "northern" school in the top five. Furthermore, the two newcomers to the CAA, College of Charleston and Elon, have risen to the top half of the conference pretty quickly.

Delaware, Drexel, Hofstra, NU are all bringing up the rear. Yes, I realize two new coaches are at the helm, but the quick rise of CofC and Elon is pretty impressive, and bodes well for the CAA as a whole.

Towson would probably reject being considered a Southern school, but they're not Northern either. Since they're below the Mason-Dixon, I petition that we count them as a Southern school and claim the top 5 spots in the basketball standings.

I thought the same when i first read it yesterday. Every Southerner's boundary seems to be the Mason Dixon

Which is true but you guys and everyone else have always lumped them in as one of the northern teams since they came over the same time. Can't have it both ways. As someone who grew up closer to Towson than any other CAA team that area is definitely a tweener where they are not north but not really considered southern either. Maryland as a whole is seen as the border between north and south, seemingly.

"Can't have it both ways" seems like a very hard line for a tongue-in-cheek conversation. Given our 10 team league structure, Towson would currently reside in a hypothetical Northern division, but they certainly could go either way. As you said, Maryland is an interesting state.

(03-02-2017 08:12 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  oh i know! I'm a Yankee, spent the first 23 years of my life in the Northeast.

Damn Yankee.