I like brown sugar poptarts.

I'll be honest, I don't post much anymore and I seriously didn't read any posts after Saluki's, but you have to call a TO. Me and my Step-Dad were wondering wtf he was doing not calling a TO during that run. That kind of run 28-3 is just plain unacceptable. No Excuse, I don't care how close the media TO was we had 5 TO left, we were out of sorts so call a timeout Tubby. BTW that missed call off the knee of the Temple player was just plain bad, if a ref can't catch that he shouldn't be in a game and that really f'ed us. IMO

(02-13-2017 02:29 AM)cbhstiger Wrote:  I'll be honest, I don't post much anymore and I seriously didn't read any posts after Saluki's, but you have to call a TO. Me and my Step-Dad were wondering wtf he was doing not calling a TO during that run. That kind of run 28-3 is just plain unacceptable. No Excuse, I don't care how close the media TO was we had 5 TO left, we were out of sorts so call a timeout Tubby. BTW that missed call off the knee of the Temple player was just plain bad, if a ref can't catch that he shouldn't be in a game and that really f'ed us. IMO

You might be on to something.

(02-12-2017 09:06 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  Do people honestly not get that a coach like Tubby has earned a lot more of a benefit of the doubt than that idiot Josh? Seriously, you don't see the difference?

I see your point. The idiot Pastner has victories over UNC, ND, and FSU this season and holds a 6-6 conference record in arguably the toughest league in college basketball. GT's present RPI is 78 while our RPI is 104. Clearly, Pastner is an idiot and Tubby a genius.

Ugly losses in the last 2-3 conf games feels like a tiger tradition going back many years.

(02-12-2017 02:59 PM)grapes Wrote:  I really wish I could say calm down and say y'all the game isn't over...
but its over.. we will get our 8th loss on the season.. 14 point lead for plenty of teams wouldn't be the end but for us it is..
I hope one day we can be competitive again and have a loud crowd and a program to be proud of..
the only thing im proud of these days is the past, because presently UOFM basketball is nothing special at all..
sad sad sad.. the crowd the coach and the team look asleep..

I disagree. I was there. The crowd stood, cheered, attempted to urge the Tigers on.
There was no focus, no energy, and no coaching.

(02-12-2017 11:51 PM)TubbyTime Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 09:18 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 09:06 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  Do people honestly not get that a coach like Tubby has earned a lot more of a benefit of the doubt than that idiot Josh? Seriously, you don't see the difference?

Just the opposite...you expect that nonsense out of a JV coach like the one before who gets lost in the moment. Heck, I might expect it IF you have a really great record and have some leeway either within a game or the season to "make the players work crap out."

However, Memphis doesn't have the firepower or consistency to be taught a lesson during a must win game nor do they have the record to allow a game to be lost just to prove a point.

Instead, (as Tubbytime notes) Tubby (for the THIRD time this year) admitted he messed up with substitutions and the like. Not sure that it's a good sign that a dude who had coached 30 years is still screwing up coaching 101 basics.

In the strange event that Tubby beats Cincinnati or SMU, it would be fair of you to point out the coaching moves he made that contributed to the big win, right? I know we can count the queen on you to do that.

Sure.

I will say that one of the takeaways from this team this year is that they never seem to get completely mindfrucked like they would in previous years when the wheels get wobbly.

Even yesterday, Memphis was down by 19 and easily could have just let that turn into a 25 point final score. Instead, they churned back to make it a game.

I think that has a lot to do with the coach. They take his demeanor. He never exudes panic which translates to the players not really ever getting panicked.

As for the timeout debate (as if there really should even be a "debate") I just can't fathom why he wouldn't even use the "use it or lose it" timeout in the 1st half.

Heck, even if you don't find the need to stop the run or if the two media timeouts are helpful, use that timeout with a minute to go in the half to draw up a play, set up a defense and have some options for the last possession. At that point, Memphis had gone 10+ minutes without scoring.

Draw up a play with a minute, hopefully score and get a stop (and maybe one more score) to have some momentum going into the 2nd half.

Instead, Memphis missed three shots and Temple hit a three to end the half.

(02-13-2017 09:42 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 11:51 PM)TubbyTime Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 09:18 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 09:06 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  Do people honestly not get that a coach like Tubby has earned a lot more of a benefit of the doubt than that idiot Josh? Seriously, you don't see the difference?

Just the opposite...you expect that nonsense out of a JV coach like the one before who gets lost in the moment. Heck, I might expect it IF you have a really great record and have some leeway either within a game or the season to "make the players work crap out."

However, Memphis doesn't have the firepower or consistency to be taught a lesson during a must win game nor do they have the record to allow a game to be lost just to prove a point.

Instead, (as Tubbytime notes) Tubby (for the THIRD time this year) admitted he messed up with substitutions and the like. Not sure that it's a good sign that a dude who had coached 30 years is still screwing up coaching 101 basics.

In the strange event that Tubby beats Cincinnati or SMU, it would be fair of you to point out the coaching moves he made that contributed to the big win, right? I know we can count the queen on you to do that.

Sure.

I will say that one of the takeaways from this team this year is that they never seem to get completely mindfrucked like they would in previous years when the wheels get wobbly.

Even yesterday, Memphis was down by 19 and easily could have just let that turn into a 25 point final score. Instead, they churned back to make it a game.

I think that has a lot to do with the coach. They take his demeanor. He never exudes panic which translates to the players not really ever getting panicked.

As for the timeout debate (as if there really should even be a "debate") I just can't fathom why he wouldn't even use the "use it or lose it" timeout in the 1st half.

Heck, even if you don't find the need to stop the run or if the two media timeouts are helpful, use that timeout with a minute to go in the half to draw up a play, set up a defense and have some options for the last possession. At that point, Memphis had gone 10+ minutes without scoring.

Draw up a play with a minute, hopefully score and get a stop (and maybe one more score) to have some momentum going into the 2nd half.

Instead, Memphis missed three shots and Temple hit a three to end the half.

Look at Mark Ginnatto's tweeter, he said Tubby did call a timeout with 7:05 remaining in first half. The refs then turned it into a media timeout.

(02-13-2017 10:30 AM)TubbyTime Wrote:  

(02-13-2017 09:42 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 11:51 PM)TubbyTime Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 09:18 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 09:06 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  Do people honestly not get that a coach like Tubby has earned a lot more of a benefit of the doubt than that idiot Josh? Seriously, you don't see the difference?

Just the opposite...you expect that nonsense out of a JV coach like the one before who gets lost in the moment. Heck, I might expect it IF you have a really great record and have some leeway either within a game or the season to "make the players work crap out."

However, Memphis doesn't have the firepower or consistency to be taught a lesson during a must win game nor do they have the record to allow a game to be lost just to prove a point.

Instead, (as Tubbytime notes) Tubby (for the THIRD time this year) admitted he messed up with substitutions and the like. Not sure that it's a good sign that a dude who had coached 30 years is still screwing up coaching 101 basics.

In the strange event that Tubby beats Cincinnati or SMU, it would be fair of you to point out the coaching moves he made that contributed to the big win, right? I know we can count the queen on you to do that.

Sure.

I will say that one of the takeaways from this team this year is that they never seem to get completely mindfrucked like they would in previous years when the wheels get wobbly.

Even yesterday, Memphis was down by 19 and easily could have just let that turn into a 25 point final score. Instead, they churned back to make it a game.

I think that has a lot to do with the coach. They take his demeanor. He never exudes panic which translates to the players not really ever getting panicked.

As for the timeout debate (as if there really should even be a "debate") I just can't fathom why he wouldn't even use the "use it or lose it" timeout in the 1st half.

Heck, even if you don't find the need to stop the run or if the two media timeouts are helpful, use that timeout with a minute to go in the half to draw up a play, set up a defense and have some options for the last possession. At that point, Memphis had gone 10+ minutes without scoring.

Draw up a play with a minute, hopefully score and get a stop (and maybe one more score) to have some momentum going into the 2nd half.

Instead, Memphis missed three shots and Temple hit a three to end the half.

Look at Mark Ginnatto's tweeter, he said Tubby did call a timeout with 7:05 remaining in first half. The refs then turned it into a media timeout.

At the 7:05 mark Alani Moore committed a foul on Keon. That was the dead ball situation which precipitated the media (not a Tigers) timeout.

(02-12-2017 11:54 PM)TubbyTime Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 09:58 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 09:54 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 06:09 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 05:13 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Yeah, I'm sure the timeouts would have solved the problem of them hitting everything - even when we did play D. It's the secret ingredient. It never fails. The missing piece. Of course, we could have started fouling them too, because they only shot 60% from the line.

No wait. Maybe it was the refs. There were at least 2 terrible calls. Didn't the phantom foul and the missed possession have a more direct impact to the game, than a to would have? Those calls directly led to 4 points.

So let's complain about officiating instead of the timeouts. Fans get worked up about both, when they neither have much impact in a double-digit game. They just don't.

Good lord this sounds like the Pastner stuff all over.

It seems to be coaching 101 to call a timeout SOME TIME during an 11 minute 25-2 run. Especially when you have a timeout that won't carry over to the 2nd half.

I really can't believe anyone with half a brain would do anything but shake heads in agreement, but it's not surprising to see 87 and midtown would have to argue the impossible.

Whatever. We know your agenda. I'm not defending Tubby at all. It was an ugly game. I'm just pointing out that you and the TO stuff is as bad as the people who harp on a couple of bad calls. IT WAS A DOUBLE DIGIT KILLING. Do you really think a couple of deadball timeouts would change that? Sure he should have called one. And? Sure the ref should have got the calls right. And? You're just pushing an agenda to kick when down. You're very quiet when we beat a Tulsa like we did this week, but when can count on you to be here today.

RRR

Can someone explain to me what rrr means?

"Run Rabbit Run"

A "cute" retort some use here when they think they have exposed something or someone. When in reality, they are lacking in such self awareness that they don't realize, all they have exposed is themselves. And it's not a pretty sight.

(02-13-2017 10:51 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 11:54 PM)TubbyTime Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 09:58 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 09:54 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 06:09 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Good lord this sounds like the Pastner stuff all over.

It seems to be coaching 101 to call a timeout SOME TIME during an 11 minute 25-2 run. Especially when you have a timeout that won't carry over to the 2nd half.

I really can't believe anyone with half a brain would do anything but shake heads in agreement, but it's not surprising to see 87 and midtown would have to argue the impossible.

Whatever. We know your agenda. I'm not defending Tubby at all. It was an ugly game. I'm just pointing out that you and the TO stuff is as bad as the people who harp on a couple of bad calls. IT WAS A DOUBLE DIGIT KILLING. Do you really think a couple of deadball timeouts would change that? Sure he should have called one. And? Sure the ref should have got the calls right. And? You're just pushing an agenda to kick when down. You're very quiet when we beat a Tulsa like we did this week, but when can count on you to be here today.

RRR

Can someone explain to me what rrr means?

"Run Rabbit Run"

A "cute" retort some use here when they think they have exposed something or someone. When in reality, they are lacking in such self awareness that they don't realize, all they have exposed is themselves. And it's not a pretty sight.

That answers the question.

Ya, there is really nothing to debate here. It is odd to go half of a half without calling a timeout in normal circumstances. It is ridiculous not to call one while the other team is in the middle of a huge run. We were up 9, once the game was tied or Temple took the lead a TO should have been called and then another when Temple started stretching the lead past 6 or 7. As someone pointed out, that is just coaching 101...

(02-13-2017 10:40 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-13-2017 10:30 AM)TubbyTime Wrote:  

(02-13-2017 09:42 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 11:51 PM)TubbyTime Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 09:18 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Just the opposite...you expect that nonsense out of a JV coach like the one before who gets lost in the moment. Heck, I might expect it IF you have a really great record and have some leeway either within a game or the season to "make the players work crap out."

However, Memphis doesn't have the firepower or consistency to be taught a lesson during a must win game nor do they have the record to allow a game to be lost just to prove a point.

Instead, (as Tubbytime notes) Tubby (for the THIRD time this year) admitted he messed up with substitutions and the like. Not sure that it's a good sign that a dude who had coached 30 years is still screwing up coaching 101 basics.

In the strange event that Tubby beats Cincinnati or SMU, it would be fair of you to point out the coaching moves he made that contributed to the big win, right? I know we can count the queen on you to do that.

Sure.

I will say that one of the takeaways from this team this year is that they never seem to get completely mindfrucked like they would in previous years when the wheels get wobbly.

Even yesterday, Memphis was down by 19 and easily could have just let that turn into a 25 point final score. Instead, they churned back to make it a game.

I think that has a lot to do with the coach. They take his demeanor. He never exudes panic which translates to the players not really ever getting panicked.

As for the timeout debate (as if there really should even be a "debate") I just can't fathom why he wouldn't even use the "use it or lose it" timeout in the 1st half.

Heck, even if you don't find the need to stop the run or if the two media timeouts are helpful, use that timeout with a minute to go in the half to draw up a play, set up a defense and have some options for the last possession. At that point, Memphis had gone 10+ minutes without scoring.

Draw up a play with a minute, hopefully score and get a stop (and maybe one more score) to have some momentum going into the 2nd half.

Instead, Memphis missed three shots and Temple hit a three to end the half.

Look at Mark Ginnatto's tweeter, he said Tubby did call a timeout with 7:05 remaining in first half. The refs then turned it into a media timeout.

At the 7:05 mark Alani Moore committed a foul on Keon. That was the dead ball situation which precipitated the media (not a Tigers) timeout.

The beat writer, Mark G., claims Tubby called the timeout and the ref turned it into a media timeout. He sits courtside. All I'm doing is telling you what he claims happened. I know you're on twitter so you could take it up with him. I have a school golf team meeting to attend. I got to go, but have a good one.

(02-13-2017 11:13 AM)TubbyTime Wrote:  

(02-13-2017 10:40 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-13-2017 10:30 AM)TubbyTime Wrote:  

(02-13-2017 09:42 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 11:51 PM)TubbyTime Wrote:  In the strange event that Tubby beats Cincinnati or SMU, it would be fair of you to point out the coaching moves he made that contributed to the big win, right? I know we can count the queen on you to do that.

Sure.

I will say that one of the takeaways from this team this year is that they never seem to get completely mindfrucked like they would in previous years when the wheels get wobbly.

Even yesterday, Memphis was down by 19 and easily could have just let that turn into a 25 point final score. Instead, they churned back to make it a game.

I think that has a lot to do with the coach. They take his demeanor. He never exudes panic which translates to the players not really ever getting panicked.

As for the timeout debate (as if there really should even be a "debate") I just can't fathom why he wouldn't even use the "use it or lose it" timeout in the 1st half.

Heck, even if you don't find the need to stop the run or if the two media timeouts are helpful, use that timeout with a minute to go in the half to draw up a play, set up a defense and have some options for the last possession. At that point, Memphis had gone 10+ minutes without scoring.

Draw up a play with a minute, hopefully score and get a stop (and maybe one more score) to have some momentum going into the 2nd half.

Instead, Memphis missed three shots and Temple hit a three to end the half.

Look at Mark Ginnatto's tweeter, he said Tubby did call a timeout with 7:05 remaining in first half. The refs then turned it into a media timeout.

At the 7:05 mark Alani Moore committed a foul on Keon. That was the dead ball situation which precipitated the media (not a Tigers) timeout.

The beat writer, Mark G., claims Tubby called the timeout and the ref turned it into a media timeout. He sits courtside. All I'm doing is telling you what he claims happened. I know you're on twitter so you could take it up with him. I have a school golf team meeting to attend. I got to go, but have a good one.

This dust up is about fake news.

(02-13-2017 11:14 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(02-13-2017 11:13 AM)TubbyTime Wrote:  

(02-13-2017 10:40 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-13-2017 10:30 AM)TubbyTime Wrote:  

(02-13-2017 09:42 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Sure.

I will say that one of the takeaways from this team this year is that they never seem to get completely mindfrucked like they would in previous years when the wheels get wobbly.

Even yesterday, Memphis was down by 19 and easily could have just let that turn into a 25 point final score. Instead, they churned back to make it a game.

I think that has a lot to do with the coach. They take his demeanor. He never exudes panic which translates to the players not really ever getting panicked.

As for the timeout debate (as if there really should even be a "debate") I just can't fathom why he wouldn't even use the "use it or lose it" timeout in the 1st half.

Heck, even if you don't find the need to stop the run or if the two media timeouts are helpful, use that timeout with a minute to go in the half to draw up a play, set up a defense and have some options for the last possession. At that point, Memphis had gone 10+ minutes without scoring.

Draw up a play with a minute, hopefully score and get a stop (and maybe one more score) to have some momentum going into the 2nd half.

Instead, Memphis missed three shots and Temple hit a three to end the half.

Look at Mark Ginnatto's tweeter, he said Tubby did call a timeout with 7:05 remaining in first half. The refs then turned it into a media timeout.

At the 7:05 mark Alani Moore committed a foul on Keon. That was the dead ball situation which precipitated the media (not a Tigers) timeout.

The beat writer, Mark G., claims Tubby called the timeout and the ref turned it into a media timeout. He sits courtside. All I'm doing is telling you what he claims happened. I know you're on twitter so you could take it up with him. I have a school golf team meeting to attend. I got to go, but have a good one.

This dust up is about fake news.

Is that your new pet "go to term" instead of "monkey?"

Ironic, since you are the Kellyanne Conway of posters.

(02-12-2017 09:53 PM)Southaven Wrote:  Maybe he didnt call timeout because he had nothing to say?

Or that nothing he could say would make a couple of players 5 inches taller and 30 pounds heavier.

(02-13-2017 11:13 AM)TubbyTime Wrote:  

(02-13-2017 10:40 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-13-2017 10:30 AM)TubbyTime Wrote:  

(02-13-2017 09:42 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 11:51 PM)TubbyTime Wrote:  In the strange event that Tubby beats Cincinnati or SMU, it would be fair of you to point out the coaching moves he made that contributed to the big win, right? I know we can count the queen on you to do that.

Sure.

I will say that one of the takeaways from this team this year is that they never seem to get completely mindfrucked like they would in previous years when the wheels get wobbly.

Even yesterday, Memphis was down by 19 and easily could have just let that turn into a 25 point final score. Instead, they churned back to make it a game.

I think that has a lot to do with the coach. They take his demeanor. He never exudes panic which translates to the players not really ever getting panicked.

As for the timeout debate (as if there really should even be a "debate") I just can't fathom why he wouldn't even use the "use it or lose it" timeout in the 1st half.

Heck, even if you don't find the need to stop the run or if the two media timeouts are helpful, use that timeout with a minute to go in the half to draw up a play, set up a defense and have some options for the last possession. At that point, Memphis had gone 10+ minutes without scoring.

Draw up a play with a minute, hopefully score and get a stop (and maybe one more score) to have some momentum going into the 2nd half.

Instead, Memphis missed three shots and Temple hit a three to end the half.

Look at Mark Ginnatto's tweeter, he said Tubby did call a timeout with 7:05 remaining in first half. The refs then turned it into a media timeout.

At the 7:05 mark Alani Moore committed a foul on Keon. That was the dead ball situation which precipitated the media (not a Tigers) timeout.

The beat writer, Mark G., claims Tubby called the timeout and the ref turned it into a media timeout. He sits courtside. All I'm doing is telling you what he claims happened. I know you're on twitter so you could take it up with him. I have a school golf team meeting to attend. I got to go, but have a good one.

Well, go back to the twitter. He just clarified.

(02-13-2017 11:20 AM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 09:53 PM)Southaven Wrote:  Maybe he didnt call timeout because he had nothing to say?

Or that nothing he could say would make a couple of players 5 inches taller and 30 pounds heavier.

Good lord. So now timeouts are useless unless you can make players more talented?

Not even done with his first season and you guys are going bottom of the barrel with excuses.

(02-13-2017 10:51 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  "Run Rabbit Run"

A "cute" retort some use here when they think they have exposed something or someone. When in reality, they are lacking in such self awareness that they don't realize, all they have exposed is themselves. And it's not a pretty sight.

While not an accurate definition by 87, it is a prime example of a rabbit running right there.

(02-13-2017 11:23 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-13-2017 11:20 AM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 09:53 PM)Southaven Wrote:  Maybe he didnt call timeout because he had nothing to say?

Or that nothing he could say would make a couple of players 5 inches taller and 30 pounds heavier.

Good lord. So now timeouts are useless unless you can make players more talented?

Are you questioning the infallible ten loss Tubby?

GTFOH