(02-10-2017 12:02 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-10-2017 11:51 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  It serves absolutely no purpose playing sub-RPI 150 schools. We'll play a few in conference typically. Even winning those games hardly count as wins when it matters. No upside.

Identify the solid low-majors (this is the bulk of the non con), identify the best mid-majors (play 2-3 of them), and then schedule a couple of name teams in P5 conferences (play 1 or 2).

Then try to get to at least 23 wins a year to give yourself a chance.

Tennessee's non conference is a pretty good example, give or take:

Bottom feeder 1
Bottom feeder 2
Bottom feeder 3

UT-Chattanooga
Appalachian State
Lipscomb
East Tennessee State

Gonzaga

Wisconsin
Oregon
Georgia Tech
North Carolina

I'll trust John over you. [1]

Quote:Before Tennessee upset No. 4 Kentucky on Tuesday night, Wildcats coach John Calipari told Rick Barnes that he was “crazy” to play such a tough non-conference schedule this season.

[1] - https://www.seccountry.com/tennessee/ten...lass-grows

(02-10-2017 12:02 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-10-2017 11:51 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  It serves absolutely no purpose playing sub-RPI 150 schools. We'll play a few in conference typically. Even winning those games hardly count as wins when it matters. No upside.

Identify the solid low-majors (this is the bulk of the non con), identify the best mid-majors (play 2-3 of them), and then schedule a couple of name teams in P5 conferences (play 1 or 2).

Then try to get to at least 23 wins a year to give yourself a chance.

Tennessee's non conference is a pretty good example, give or take:

Bottom feeder 1
Bottom feeder 2
Bottom feeder 3

UT-Chattanooga
Appalachian State
Lipscomb
East Tennessee State

Gonzaga

Wisconsin
Oregon
Georgia Tech
North Carolina

Well, this year they do have one of the top 10 schedules in the country, so yeah. Probably some realistic middle ground in between what we have this year and what they have.

(02-10-2017 12:35 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  I'll trust John over you. [1]

Quote:Before Tennessee upset No. 4 Kentucky on Tuesday night, Wildcats coach John Calipari told Rick Barnes that he was “crazy” to play such a tough non-conference schedule this season.

[1] - https://www.seccountry.com/tennessee/ten...lass-grows

Right, I said "good example, give or take".

I'm sure I don't need to define things more clearly for you.

I'm interested to see how the schedule evolves. It's my understanding that the HC plays a much larger role in scheduling with the AD than is the case in football, right? I'm sure a lot of this season's games were scheduled after Tubby was hired but I wonder how much input he put into it or if we just kept a Pastner-esque OOC because of the lack of depth this season.

(02-10-2017 04:46 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  I'm interested to see how the schedule evolves. It's my understanding that the HC plays a much larger role in scheduling with the AD than is the case in football, right? I'm sure a lot of this season's games were scheduled after Tubby was hired but I wonder how much input he put into it or if we just kept a Pastner-esque OOC because of the lack of depth this season.

I think Tubby's words were something along the lines of, "Yeah, we scheduled a couple of games. You don't do much scheduling after April." I imagine the "couple" was euphemistically speaking, but it sounded like Josh/Bowen probably put most of this year's pastry selection together.

(02-10-2017 10:58 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(02-10-2017 04:46 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  I'm interested to see how the schedule evolves. It's my understanding that the HC plays a much larger role in scheduling with the AD than is the case in football, right? I'm sure a lot of this season's games were scheduled after Tubby was hired but I wonder how much input he put into it or if we just kept a Pastner-esque OOC because of the lack of depth this season.

I think Tubby's words were something along the lines of, "Yeah, we scheduled a couple of games. You don't do much scheduling after April." I imagine the "couple" was euphemistically speaking, but it sounded like Josh/Bowen probably put most of this year's pastry selection together.

I think I heard the same thing. I've heard Tubby was directly responsible for Monmouth (or was it IW?). I imagine about all the rest was done or in the works.

I do think this is an area Tubby should be able to improve. Leverage the reputation and relationships. Bowen took over a lot of this from Pastner. He needs to turn it back over to Tubby and see what he can do.

Be disappointed if it doesn't somewhat improve next year, and be much better by year 3.

(02-10-2017 11:36 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(02-10-2017 10:58 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(02-10-2017 04:46 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  I'm interested to see how the schedule evolves. It's my understanding that the HC plays a much larger role in scheduling with the AD than is the case in football, right? I'm sure a lot of this season's games were scheduled after Tubby was hired but I wonder how much input he put into it or if we just kept a Pastner-esque OOC because of the lack of depth this season.

I think Tubby's words were something along the lines of, "Yeah, we scheduled a couple of games. You don't do much scheduling after April." I imagine the "couple" was euphemistically speaking, but it sounded like Josh/Bowen probably put most of this year's pastry selection together.

I think I heard the same thing. I've heard Tubby was directly responsible for Monmouth (or was it IW?). I imagine about all the rest was done or in the works.

I do think this is an area Tubby should be able to improve. Leverage the reputation and relationships. Bowen took over a lot of this from Pastner. He needs to turn it back over to Tubby and see what he can do.

Be disappointed if it doesn't somewhat improve next year, and be much better by year 3.

I kinda' suspect something similar to this. Bowen had to take a bigger part in the running of the basketball effort, including scheduling, and I think he just didn't care for Josh as a head coach. I think he didn't like being strong-armed into setting up his killer contract by Raines because he didn't think he deserved it for what he was doing. That may have been another reason we got Tubby, since he has run several basketball programs and knows his way around this track - and it got Bowen out of the oversight position he had to do with Josh.

I have no proof on this, it's just my opinion watching how things have played out the last couple of years.

(02-10-2017 11:53 PM)former guest Wrote:  

(02-10-2017 11:36 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(02-10-2017 10:58 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(02-10-2017 04:46 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  I'm interested to see how the schedule evolves. It's my understanding that the HC plays a much larger role in scheduling with the AD than is the case in football, right? I'm sure a lot of this season's games were scheduled after Tubby was hired but I wonder how much input he put into it or if we just kept a Pastner-esque OOC because of the lack of depth this season.

I think Tubby's words were something along the lines of, "Yeah, we scheduled a couple of games. You don't do much scheduling after April." I imagine the "couple" was euphemistically speaking, but it sounded like Josh/Bowen probably put most of this year's pastry selection together.

I think I heard the same thing. I've heard Tubby was directly responsible for Monmouth (or was it IW?). I imagine about all the rest was done or in the works.

I do think this is an area Tubby should be able to improve. Leverage the reputation and relationships. Bowen took over a lot of this from Pastner. He needs to turn it back over to Tubby and see what he can do.

Be disappointed if it doesn't somewhat improve next year, and be much better by year 3.

I kinda' suspect something similar to this. Bowen had to take a bigger part in the running of the basketball effort, including scheduling, and I think he just didn't care for Josh as a head coach. I think he didn't like being strong-armed into setting up his killer contract by Raines because he didn't think he deserved it for what he was doing. That may have been another reason we got Tubby, since he has run several basketball programs and knows his way around this track - and it got Bowen out of the oversight position he had to do with Josh.

I have no proof on this, it's just my opinion watching how things have played out the last couple of years.

Big job, university president. Not everyone is cut out for all aspects of it. But like any other top management spot, you get the right people under you and then let them do their jobs. Personally, I feel a lot more confident about the way that process is working now than I have in many, many years. Shirley, RC & Josh or Rudd, Bowen & Tubby? I only know one poster on here who would choose the former.

I'd love to play Butler.

(02-04-2017 03:24 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Zags dumped us because we weren't highly ranked enough. Baylor won't play a home and home.

Or the Zags got tired of being beat!

(02-11-2017 08:37 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(02-10-2017 11:53 PM)former guest Wrote:  

(02-10-2017 11:36 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(02-10-2017 10:58 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(02-10-2017 04:46 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  I'm interested to see how the schedule evolves. It's my understanding that the HC plays a much larger role in scheduling with the AD than is the case in football, right? I'm sure a lot of this season's games were scheduled after Tubby was hired but I wonder how much input he put into it or if we just kept a Pastner-esque OOC because of the lack of depth this season.

I think Tubby's words were something along the lines of, "Yeah, we scheduled a couple of games. You don't do much scheduling after April." I imagine the "couple" was euphemistically speaking, but it sounded like Josh/Bowen probably put most of this year's pastry selection together.

I think I heard the same thing. I've heard Tubby was directly responsible for Monmouth (or was it IW?). I imagine about all the rest was done or in the works.

I do think this is an area Tubby should be able to improve. Leverage the reputation and relationships. Bowen took over a lot of this from Pastner. He needs to turn it back over to Tubby and see what he can do.

Be disappointed if it doesn't somewhat improve next year, and be much better by year 3.

I kinda' suspect something similar to this. Bowen had to take a bigger part in the running of the basketball effort, including scheduling, and I think he just didn't care for Josh as a head coach. I think he didn't like being strong-armed into setting up his killer contract by Raines because he didn't think he deserved it for what he was doing. That may have been another reason we got Tubby, since he has run several basketball programs and knows his way around this track - and it got Bowen out of the oversight position he had to do with Josh.

I have no proof on this, it's just my opinion watching how things have played out the last couple of years.

Who cares what you think - your opinion isn't worth a bucket of warm spit.

It's no less a bucket of warm s*** than any post you've ever put out there - and I'm sure 99% of the board would agree.

And, you have an endless supply of your preferred material; when you need more you just squeeze your head.

Does anyone know any non conference teams we are playing next year besides louisville at msg

No pre-season tournament
No neutral site games

Exhibition
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CBU
Lemoyne

H&H ( Choose 6 )
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*UT
*OM
*MTSU
*VCU
*Dayton
*Wichita State
B12
BE
SEC
UNLV

3 & 1 ( Choose 4 )
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*Chatt
*ETSU
*UALR
ASU
WKU?
La Tech?
ULL?
MVC?

Buy ( Choose 2 )
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UTM
*TSU
APSU
*Murray
USA?
MVC
SEMO

*=My choice
Starting Over - Rebuild Brand

Need to add BB school - 2 Divisions - 12 Teams
16 Conf Games
14 OOC Games

There is literally no purpose in divisions for college basketball.

Only two DI conferences have them anymore.

(02-12-2017 12:37 AM)former guest Wrote:  It's no less a bucket of warm s*** than any post you've ever put out there - and I'm sure 99% of the board would agree.

And, you have an endless supply of your preferred material; when you need more you just squeeze your head.

Dude this is awesome.

Don't hold back next time Mr. Guest. And yes 99% of the board agrees. He's the worst poster on here period.

(02-12-2017 07:54 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  There is literally no purpose in divisions for college basketball.

Only two DI conferences have them anymore.

Agree, except in a large conference situation, travel could be a consideration.