(02-11-2017 03:59 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  While I want a 4 or better seed in the NCAA tourney so that the Cats might play close enough to Cincinnati to attend...

I'm actually pleased that they are not in the Pre-Selection List.

They need to stay unrewarded, with a chip on their shoulders, looking to prove the critics wrong. They lack a killer instinct. If they get a team down by 15-20 they tend to relax and let them climb back instead pressing their foot on the opponent's neck and try and beat them by 30.

Winning in March requires never taking your foot off of the gas.

I do hope it will light a fire under the Cats. But it shows the committee does not respect UC or the AAC. That likely means we have little room for error. Still think they can lose 1 game and get a top 4 seed, but two may not cut it, which is crock considering how many bad losses other teams have taken. Let's just run the freaking table. 29-2 and win the AAC tourney puts us at 32-2.

(02-11-2017 04:40 PM)BigDawg Wrote:  

(02-11-2017 03:59 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  While I want a 4 or better seed in the NCAA tourney so that the Cats might play close enough to Cincinnati to attend...

I'm actually pleased that they are not in the Pre-Selection List.

They need to stay unrewarded, with a chip on their shoulders, looking to prove the critics wrong. They lack a killer instinct. If they get a team down by 15-20 they tend to relax and let them climb back instead pressing their foot on the opponent's neck and try and beat them by 30.

Winning in March requires never taking your foot off of the gas.

I do hope it will light a fire under the Cats. But it shows the committee does not respect UC or the AAC. That likely means we have little room for error. Still think they can lose 1 game and get a top 4 seed, but two may not cut it, which is crock considering how many bad losses other teams have taken. Let's just run the freaking table. 29-2 and win the AAC tourney puts us at 32-2.

This was ESPiN. Not the Committee.

(02-11-2017 04:46 PM)payday Wrote:  

(02-11-2017 04:40 PM)BigDawg Wrote:  

(02-11-2017 03:59 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  While I want a 4 or better seed in the NCAA tourney so that the Cats might play close enough to Cincinnati to attend...

I'm actually pleased that they are not in the Pre-Selection List.

They need to stay unrewarded, with a chip on their shoulders, looking to prove the critics wrong. They lack a killer instinct. If they get a team down by 15-20 they tend to relax and let them climb back instead pressing their foot on the opponent's neck and try and beat them by 30.

Winning in March requires never taking your foot off of the gas.

I do hope it will light a fire under the Cats. But it shows the committee does not respect UC or the AAC. That likely means we have little room for error. Still think they can lose 1 game and get a top 4 seed, but two may not cut it, which is crock considering how many bad losses other teams have taken. Let's just run the freaking table. 29-2 and win the AAC tourney puts us at 32-2.

This was ESPiN. Not the Committee.

It was the committee.........that did the top 4 seeds, then Jerry Palm projected the rest, on CBS.

(02-11-2017 04:46 PM)payday Wrote:  

(02-11-2017 04:40 PM)BigDawg Wrote:  

(02-11-2017 03:59 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  While I want a 4 or better seed in the NCAA tourney so that the Cats might play close enough to Cincinnati to attend...

I'm actually pleased that they are not in the Pre-Selection List.

They need to stay unrewarded, with a chip on their shoulders, looking to prove the critics wrong. They lack a killer instinct. If they get a team down by 15-20 they tend to relax and let them climb back instead pressing their foot on the opponent's neck and try and beat them by 30.

Winning in March requires never taking your foot off of the gas.

I do hope it will light a fire under the Cats. But it shows the committee does not respect UC or the AAC. That likely means we have little room for error. Still think they can lose 1 game and get a top 4 seed, but two may not cut it, which is crock considering how many bad losses other teams have taken. Let's just run the freaking table. 29-2 and win the AAC tourney puts us at 32-2.

This was ESPiN. Not the Committee.

This was on cbs. Blaming espn is idiotic. They stupidly rely on the rpi and top.50.rpi wins specifically. That said
Plenty of legit reasons to have uc as a 5 seed

(02-11-2017 03:15 PM)dave416 Wrote:  Ya, the RPI is consistently terrible. Thankfully, it is finally on its way out as a relevant metric.

we are in higher in the rpi than any other metric right now.

Honestly, I can see UC with 3 more losses, @SMU, @ UCF or @UConn and a loss in the conf. tourney. Just don't trust UC's shooting away from home.

FWIW. There's no B1G teams listed either. This poll assumes the tourney started now and a lot can happen between now and early March. Mick and the players don't care about meaningless polls at this juncture. He has already been beating in their heads that they have to get better or they will lose in March. What they need to remain focused on is each game. one. at. a. time. To me, the outright conference championship should be the short run goal that provides plenty of motivation. Unless they get some help from other top teams fighting for seeding, I really don't see them higher than a #4 seed with a weaker AAC conference this year.

It's hard to be a "top 16" team if you haven't actually beaten any "top 16" teams. UC is suffering as a result of UConn and Memphis being down this year, but also wiffed with the losses to Rhode Island (losing a shot at Duke) and Butler.

Well given that they named Butler a top 16 and they just lost to an unranked providence squad, that list didn't last long anyway...

No. 14 and 2 seed FSU getting killed at ND by 19 with 5 min to go

I'm not surprised. Typical UC disrespect. I hope Cronin uses this this as additional motivation and the guys play with a chip on their shoulder. Good to see 2 of the high and mighty seeds getting beat.

Its NOT typical UC disrespect. We haven't played anybody, and when we have, we lost. Were we to have beaten Butler (not to mention Rhode Island) we would have been one of the top 4 seeds. Instead, Butler is.

(02-11-2017 08:29 PM)ctipton Wrote:  Its NOT typical UC disrespect. We haven't played anybody, and when we have, we lost. Were we to have beaten Butler (not to mention Rhode Island) we would have been one of the top 4 seeds. Instead, Butler is.

I still think smu is the best team uc had played. X is good too. Iowa state won at fogg allen. Saying we haven't played or beat anyone is inaccurate. That said.. Plenty of reasons for uc not to be stop 4 seed

(02-11-2017 08:29 PM)ctipton Wrote:  Its NOT typical UC disrespect. We haven't played anybody, and when we have, we lost. Were we to have beaten Butler (not to mention Rhode Island) we would have been one of the top 4 seeds. Instead, Butler is.

I like this team; it's probably the best that Mick's had. But a 5 seed (top 20) is fair and realistic at this juncture, with, unfortunately, not much opportunity to move up due to a very weak AAC.

The loss to URI hurt. Swap that loss for even a loss to Duke and it's a completely different story.

Tomorrow will tell us a lot about this team.

We already know a lot about this team

(02-11-2017 09:21 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  The loss to URI hurt. Swap that loss for even a loss to Duke and it's a completely different story.

I doubt it. They would still say we haven't beaten anybody. Rhode island is not a better win than @Iowa St., vs. Xavier or SMU. Or even @Houston perhaps since the coogs beat them at home.

(02-11-2017 10:26 PM)payday Wrote:  We already know a lot about this team

Yes we do. And those of us without blinders on have legitimate concerns. Take care of bidness tomorrow and move on.

Wow. Moaning that UC lost to URI and Butler? Why is it that some people aren't happy unless they're miserable.