(02-03-2017 01:34 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 01:20 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 01:09 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Highest RPI-rated C-USA team aside from the Raiders

137

How much does the Michigan State win help us?

I mean it's moot if we drop a couple of games, but had we got hammered by Michigan State last year we'd be getting even less respect, we'd just be that good team in that bad conference.

Could last year's win, provided we take care of business, help us in seeding at all, even if it's by a spot or two?

No. And if you don't win the cusa tourney, you are not going dancing. A cusa champ is gonna be a 15 seed.

Snap back to reality.

Seriously, why does that town not support the basketball team better? Such a good team, and seems like less than 1500 in the stands

It's the most misguided man on CUSA BBS...

(02-03-2017 02:13 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 01:34 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 01:20 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 01:09 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Highest RPI-rated C-USA team aside from the Raiders

137

How much does the Michigan State win help us?

I mean it's moot if we drop a couple of games, but had we got hammered by Michigan State last year we'd be getting even less respect, we'd just be that good team in that bad conference.

Could last year's win, provided we take care of business, help us in seeding at all, even if it's by a spot or two?

No. And if you don't win the cusa tourney, you are not going dancing. A cusa champ is gonna be a 15 seed.

Snap back to reality.

Seriously, why does that town not support the basketball team better? Such a good team, and seems like less than 1500 in the stands

It's the most misguided man on CUSA BBS...

It's like anybody successful is catnip for him since, y'know, they don't have a lot of success up in West Virginia these days.

(02-03-2017 02:13 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 01:34 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 01:20 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 01:09 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Highest RPI-rated C-USA team aside from the Raiders

137

How much does the Michigan State win help us?

I mean it's moot if we drop a couple of games, but had we got hammered by Michigan State last year we'd be getting even less respect, we'd just be that good team in that bad conference.

Could last year's win, provided we take care of business, help us in seeding at all, even if it's by a spot or two?

No. And if you don't win the cusa tourney, you are not going dancing. A cusa champ is gonna be a 15 seed.

Snap back to reality.

Seriously, why does that town not support the basketball team better? Such a good team, and seems like less than 1500 in the stands

It's the most misguided man on CUSA BBS...

Misguided, sure, but honest.

(02-03-2017 03:00 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 02:13 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 01:34 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 01:20 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 01:09 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Highest RPI-rated C-USA team aside from the Raiders

137

How much does the Michigan State win help us?

I mean it's moot if we drop a couple of games, but had we got hammered by Michigan State last year we'd be getting even less respect, we'd just be that good team in that bad conference.

Could last year's win, provided we take care of business, help us in seeding at all, even if it's by a spot or two?

No. And if you don't win the cusa tourney, you are not going dancing. A cusa champ is gonna be a 15 seed.

Snap back to reality.

Seriously, why does that town not support the basketball team better? Such a good team, and seems like less than 1500 in the stands

It's the most misguided man on CUSA BBS...

Misguided, sure, but honest.

Honest? You are now a bracketology expert too?? You know better than Joe Lunardi who has MT as an 11 seed or USA Today's panel who has us as an 8!? Please go ahead, tell us more of your oh so genius insights.

(02-03-2017 03:38 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 03:00 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 02:13 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 01:34 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 01:20 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  How much does the Michigan State win help us?

I mean it's moot if we drop a couple of games, but had we got hammered by Michigan State last year we'd be getting even less respect, we'd just be that good team in that bad conference.

Could last year's win, provided we take care of business, help us in seeding at all, even if it's by a spot or two?

No. And if you don't win the cusa tourney, you are not going dancing. A cusa champ is gonna be a 15 seed.

Snap back to reality.

Seriously, why does that town not support the basketball team better? Such a good team, and seems like less than 1500 in the stands

It's the most misguided man on CUSA BBS...

Misguided, sure, but honest.

Honest? You are now a bracketology expert too?? You know better than Joe Lunardi who has MT as an 11 seed or USA Today's panel who has us as an 8!? Please go ahead, tell us more of your oh so genius insights.

I suppose that is with MT winning the tournament? If they happen to not win, I think they could still get in. But I think it would be a higher seed if they dont win the tournament.

Not convinced we get in if we lose one regular season game (which I'm 95% sure will happen) and then lose at some point in the tournament.

But "seems like 1500" is just pure asinine. We haven't been anywhere close to that number in almost two decades.

Here's Chris Dobbertean among those making the case for MTSU on the at-large credentials.

http://www.sbnation.com/2017/2/3/1448581...vanderbilt

He's got MT as a "Bubble-In" and a 10 seed.
That's semi-comfortably above the 8 teams on the good side of the "Cut Line" group.

(02-04-2017 08:13 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  Here's Chris Dobbertean among those making the case for MTSU on the at-large credentials.

http://www.sbnation.com/2017/2/3/1448581...vanderbilt

He's got MT as a "Bubble-In" and a 10 seed.
That's semi-comfortably above the 8 teams on the good side of the "Cut Line" group.

MTSU has to get the auto-bid. Losing 1 more is going to push the RPI in the 60's.

(02-05-2017 11:44 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(02-04-2017 08:13 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  Here's Chris Dobbertean among those making the case for MTSU on the at-large credentials.

http://www.sbnation.com/2017/2/3/1448581...vanderbilt

He's got MT as a "Bubble-In" and a 10 seed.
That's semi-comfortably above the 8 teams on the good side of the "Cut Line" group.

MTSU has to get the auto-bid. Losing 1 more is going to push the RPI in the 60's.

Yep, thanks to the conference. We had a top 25 non-conference SOS. The SOS has now ballooned to 145.

(02-05-2017 12:07 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(02-05-2017 11:44 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(02-04-2017 08:13 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  Here's Chris Dobbertean among those making the case for MTSU on the at-large credentials.

http://www.sbnation.com/2017/2/3/1448581...vanderbilt

He's got MT as a "Bubble-In" and a 10 seed.
That's semi-comfortably above the 8 teams on the good side of the "Cut Line" group.

MTSU has to get the auto-bid. Losing 1 more is going to push the RPI in the 60's.

Yep, thanks to the conference. We had a top 25 non-conference SOS. The SOS has now ballooned to 145.

How far did that "bad loss" to UTEP drop you? Figured you guys would be in the ACC by now

(02-05-2017 01:59 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(02-05-2017 12:07 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(02-05-2017 11:44 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(02-04-2017 08:13 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  Here's Chris Dobbertean among those making the case for MTSU on the at-large credentials.

http://www.sbnation.com/2017/2/3/1448581...vanderbilt

He's got MT as a "Bubble-In" and a 10 seed.
That's semi-comfortably above the 8 teams on the good side of the "Cut Line" group.

MTSU has to get the auto-bid. Losing 1 more is going to push the RPI in the 60's.

Yep, thanks to the conference. We had a top 25 non-conference SOS. The SOS has now ballooned to 145.

How far did that "bad loss" to UTEP drop you? Figured you guys would be in the ACC by now

RPI went from 16 to 38 during 10 straight wins. Now 47 after after the loss.

(02-05-2017 11:44 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(02-04-2017 08:13 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  Here's Chris Dobbertean among those making the case for MTSU on the at-large credentials.

http://www.sbnation.com/2017/2/3/1448581...vanderbilt

He's got MT as a "Bubble-In" and a 10 seed.
That's semi-comfortably above the 8 teams on the good side of the "Cut Line" group.

MTSU has to get the auto-bid. Losing 1 more is going to push the RPI in the 60's.

Not true. If MT closes out conference play 6-1, its RPI improves from 47 to 36 based on the current predicted RPI at WarrenNolan.com.

Will still get left out at that number. Book it.

(02-06-2017 10:18 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  Will still get left out at that number. Book it.

The problem for MTSU is that the conference RPI is so low. If they were in the 40s but we were the 10th or 11th or even 12th best conference they would be in. This >20 conference rating BS is a killer.

SIX teams from 268-337 RPI. SIX!!!! The facts are in the FACE of the conference.

This has help the MAC some. Not sure what you guys think of it. Note the A10 does uneven distribution of NCAA credits as well where 75% go to the team earning them.

Quote:The Mid-American Conference will try to jump-start the league's men's basketball by paying bonuses to programs that reach benchmarks that include scheduling tougher nonleague opponents and winning NCAA Tournament and National Invitation Tournament games.

The MAC has been struggling in recent seasons, and the Ratings Percentage Index -- a computer formula that measures wins, losses and strength of schedules for every team in the country -- reflects that.

The MAC's RPI as a league ranked 18th in the nation last season. Only one MAC team, Kent State, has been a consistent top-100 RPI team, something it has accomplished 12 of the past 13 years. That run includes six seasons in the top 50.

No other MAC team has been in the top 50 more than twice.

MAC Commissioner Jon Steinbrecher hopes the bonus money for tougher scheduling and for winning will raise the level of the entire league.

The plan has been approved, but league athletic directors have not decided how much money will be paid out each incentive reached. They will do so before the start of the 2011-12 season.

According to Steinbrecher, in the past the MAC has split its postseason money evenly. That will no longer be the case. According to the commissioner:

• A percentage of the money still will be shared equally.

• The rest will be handed out based on winning. Teams will be rewarded for their nonconference performance, conference performance, NCAA Tournament appearances, other postseason tournament performances and where they finish in the RPI.

The hope is more teams will schedule aggressively and win, ultimately getting more teams into the postseason and more money into the MAC coffers.

"As more teams have success, hopefully, the [money] pool will grow," Steinbrecher said.

Winning home games and playing quality nonconference teams are the keys to the plan.

Under the mandate, MAC teams must have 15 nonconference home games over the course of any two-season span.

The other key is what Steinbrecher calls " 'right-size scheduling,' which is something you can't legislate, but teams have to do. Better teams have to play better people."

As an example, a rebuilding team with a new head coach can't be expected to have a schedule loaded with teams from the six power conferences and the top 12 overall leagues in the country.

"We looked at every formula under the sun," Steinbrecher said. "But the key is to schedule for where you are at. Kent and Akron, for where their programs have been of late, should be scheduling differently from our teams at the bottom. At the end of the day, it's about scheduling the best teams you can beat."

BUMP?? Is this really the first post in 6 hours on the CSNbbs/CUSA site ? -or maybe I'm stuck in some time warp?

(02-06-2017 10:36 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  BUMP?? Is this really the first post in 6 hours on the CSNbbs/CUSA site ? -or maybe I'm stuck in some time warp?

Was wondering the same

(02-06-2017 11:39 PM)Doots4Dawgs Wrote:  

(02-06-2017 10:36 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  BUMP?? Is this really the first post in 6 hours on the CSNbbs/CUSA site ? -or maybe I'm stuck in some time warp?

Was wondering the same

And if it wouldn't be for things to whine about, there would hardly be any posts at all.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bubblewatch

"Middle Tennessee [20-4 (10-1), RPI: 48, SOS: 151] Middle Tennessee was responsible for the most face-melting shock from a 2016 NCAA tournament that was pretty much wall-to-wall face-melting after beating No. 2 seed Michigan State. The Blue Raiders have put a steady foot forward toward a return trip in 2017. They have four top-100 wins, including road wins at Ole Miss and Belmont, plus a top-30 nonconference schedule that the committee will surely appreciate. As is so often the case in leagues like C-USA, bad losses are the real risk. Saturday's three-point defeat at UTEP -- whose RPI, shout out to Tim Floyd, is up in the 300 range -- is exactly the kind of loss Kermit Davis' team has to dodge moving forward. It isn't easy."