Looking only a bit ahead...home game with UCF very winnable, at Temple will be tough but real opportunity, then home with East Carolina then at a bad USF. Would be 18-5 which just looks really good...then the games get big. Houston last night was less big due to the Tulsa debacle...the next four set up at UCF as an important game, do it kids.

Tulsa has shown itself quite formidable in conference play despite an unimpressive OOC record. They've also beaten Illinois State (14-4, 7-0), current leaders of the Missouri Valley.

As Monmouth found out last year. With our SOS 25 wins may not be enough to get in. Let's not get too excited, the AAC is very down this year and is not getting very much respect.

(01-20-2017 05:27 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  

(01-20-2017 03:22 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  One projection currently predicts Memphis to finish 21-10 with a SOS of 122 and an RPI of 77.

Wichita State made it in last year with an RPI of 80.
Monmouth made it in last year with an RPI of 56.
Vandy made it in last year with an RPI of 86.
Temple made it in with an RPI of 69.

Also... GP stated last year "Every eligible Power 5 school with a top-54 RPI made the NCAA Tournament. But eight non-Power 5 schools with top-54 RPIs did not."

SO, ya just don't know.

But there's a path. Now we have to win some games.

This says Vandy's rpi was 61. http://www.si.com/college-basketball/van...tournament

And this says Wichita's was 48.
http://www.si.com/college-basketball/201...tournament

I'm too lazy to look for others

And Monmouth did not make it.

We need to sweep Temple

(01-20-2017 07:17 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  As Monmouth found out last year. With our SOS 25 wins may not be enough to get in. Let's not get too excited, the AAC is very down this year and is not getting very much respect.

Always there to piss on someone's parade!

You must be a real joy to hang around.

There is a path, very narrow.
From the eye test, this team is gonna have bad shooting nights like last night and probably lose too many games. The bench is too short and the 3PT/FT shooting too erratic and inconsistent.
It's nice to think about now but we're gonna have trouble w UCF and Temple.
I appreciate the the OP's plat and analysis.

Why are we mollycoddling Monmouth.

And I agree that Tulsa is a pretty good team.

That is the one game that was lost not by hustle mistakes or a few careless plays, but an odd systematic lack of effort and odd indifference down the stretch...not a D1 effort. It happens...and it did.

Lots of careless mistakes last night but effort was there. As it usually is save that one game.

(01-20-2017 08:00 PM)springcat Wrote:  

(01-20-2017 07:17 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  As Monmouth found out last year. With our SOS 25 wins may not be enough to get in. Let's not get too excited, the AAC is very down this year and is not getting very much respect.

Always there to piss on someone's parade!

You must be a real joy to hang around.

Others have said the same thing in this thread but you choose only to respond to my post. That makes you look totally ignorant.

(01-20-2017 12:31 PM)cmt Wrote:  Not to worry, actually even discussing this possibility is a very positive step for this program. This team is worth rooting for, unlike the last few years. I think a deep run in the NIT is better than a one and done in the NCAAs anyway, for this year's team.

The best thing about what Tubby is bringing is that one more really top player added to this team or two more good college players would make this team a top 25 team. The last few years, we had those players and were nothing.

Add Shaq or Austin or Adonis or Joe or even a Chris Crawford or Trashon Burrell to the team we have right now and we'd be 16-3 or better and expecting an AAC championship and hoping for a sweet sixteen.

Tubby might need until year 3, but I think we are heading back where we want to be.

Agree. I think the odds are pretty long on making the NCAA's. I won't consider the season a failure if we don't - making the NIT's would be a nice step in the right direction.

(01-20-2017 08:47 PM)presskh Wrote:  

(01-20-2017 12:31 PM)cmt Wrote:  Not to worry, actually even discussing this possibility is a very positive step for this program. This team is worth rooting for, unlike the last few years. I think a deep run in the NIT is better than a one and done in the NCAAs anyway, for this year's team.

The best thing about what Tubby is bringing is that one more really top player added to this team or two more good college players would make this team a top 25 team. The last few years, we had those players and were nothing.

Add Shaq or Austin or Adonis or Joe or even a Chris Crawford or Trashon Burrell to the team we have right now and we'd be 16-3 or better and expecting an AAC championship and hoping for a sweet sixteen.

Tubby might need until year 3, but I think we are heading back where we want to be.

Agree. I think the odds are pretty long on making the NCAA's. I won't consider the season a failure if we don't - making the NIT's would be a nice step in the right direction.

Our team had winning records the past two years and still wasn't invited to the NIT. Hopefully that changes..

(01-20-2017 08:54 PM)rolexjames Wrote:  

(01-20-2017 08:47 PM)presskh Wrote:  

(01-20-2017 12:31 PM)cmt Wrote:  Not to worry, actually even discussing this possibility is a very positive step for this program. This team is worth rooting for, unlike the last few years. I think a deep run in the NIT is better than a one and done in the NCAAs anyway, for this year's team.

The best thing about what Tubby is bringing is that one more really top player added to this team or two more good college players would make this team a top 25 team. The last few years, we had those players and were nothing.

Add Shaq or Austin or Adonis or Joe or even a Chris Crawford or Trashon Burrell to the team we have right now and we'd be 16-3 or better and expecting an AAC championship and hoping for a sweet sixteen.

Tubby might need until year 3, but I think we are heading back where we want to be.

Agree. I think the odds are pretty long on making the NCAA's. I won't consider the season a failure if we don't - making the NIT's would be a nice step in the right direction.

Our team had winning records the past two years and still wasn't invited to the NIT. Hopefully that changes..

They destroyed the nit a few years back by auto qualifying all of the regular season conference champs from the crappy conferences if they failed to win the auto bid in their crappy conference tournament. It's too bad, because that tournament used to have some real good games on during the days the ncaa games weren't on. Now its regular season champion who failed to win their crappy conference auto ibid vs another regular season champ who failed to win the auto bid from their crappy conference.

Who wouldn't love getting to the NCAA but just getting to the NIT would be an improvement over last year. I kind of think Cal winning it was the first step in his rebuild.

(01-20-2017 03:47 PM)mempho_to_diego Wrote:  

(01-20-2017 03:22 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  One projection currently predicts Memphis to finish 21-10 with a SOS of 122 and an RPI of 77.

Wichita State made it in last year with an RPI of 80.
Monmouth made it in last year with an RPI of 56.
Vandy made it in last year with an RPI of 86.
Temple made it in with an RPI of 69.

Also... GP stated last year "Every eligible Power 5 school with a top-54 RPI made the NCAA Tournament. But eight non-Power 5 schools with top-54 RPIs did not."

SO, ya just don't know.

But there's a path. Now we have to win some games.

Good thing committee is looking at more than just RPI ... don't know if it starts this upcoming season or starting next year (2017-2018 season). I do believe it is for the 2017-18 season.

It started a couple of years ago.

Will also help if OOC opponents keep winning like they have lately. We do enough to come in 3rd in AAC, then we are on the bubble. If we finish 2nd and win a game in the tourney, we are in.

(01-20-2017 10:25 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(01-20-2017 10:15 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Will also help if OOC opponents keep winning like they have lately. We do enough to come in 3rd in AAC, then we are on the bubble. If we finish 2nd and win a game in the tourney, we are in.

Coming in 3rd in AAC does NOT put you on the bubble. Committee does not even consider conference and that has been proven with a lot of disappointed SEC teams with NC SOS like ours over past few years. Winning out (or losses at Cincy and at SMU with all wins otherwise) would put us on the bubble despite our schedule.

Winning out and making it to the finals of the AAC would likely get us better than a 6 seed...Heck we would be ranked at that point.

Which takes more faith -- thoughts of us not losing another game until the conference tournament championship or thoughts of us putting together a nice little three-game run in the conference tournament? We may get in, but let's be honest about the more likely route.

(01-20-2017 10:47 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(01-20-2017 10:28 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-20-2017 10:25 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(01-20-2017 10:15 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Will also help if OOC opponents keep winning like they have lately. We do enough to come in 3rd in AAC, then we are on the bubble. If we finish 2nd and win a game in the tourney, we are in.

Coming in 3rd in AAC does NOT put you on the bubble. Committee does not even consider conference and that has been proven with a lot of disappointed SEC teams with NC SOS like ours over past few years. Winning out (or losses at Cincy and at SMU with all wins otherwise) would put us on the bubble despite our schedule.

Winning out and making it to the finals of the AAC would likely get us better than a 6 seed...Heck we would be ranked at that point.

You are dreaming. But enjoy! In 2012, We got an 8 seed and was 12th in KenPom. Team was 26-8 going into selection Sunday with good winning streak I think.

http://kenpom.com/index.php?y=2012

You think wrong...And Ken Pom was not used for seeding and finally an 8 seed is far away from the bubble.

And most would say we got screwed with our seed that year. We had a ton of top 100 wins that were all discounted because those games came against conference foes whom the committee did not respect.

(01-20-2017 10:51 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  Which takes more faith -- thoughts of us not losing another game until the conference tournament championship or thoughts of us putting together a nice little three-game run in the conference tournament? We may get in, but let's be honest about the more likely route.

You are absolutely right...But I am just refuting the misinformation.