(02-01-2017 11:25 AM)TripleO Wrote:  GS with 10 3 stars, but 247 only showing them with 9. Got DL Tucker, GS's highest ranked recruit @ 85+ buried in the guys with 70s ratings. They may have missed him.

Make that 11 3 stars. DL Brian Miller just signed his LOI

(02-01-2017 11:59 AM)TripleO Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 11:25 AM)TripleO Wrote:  GS with 10 3 stars, but 247 only showing them with 9. Got DL Tucker, GS's highest ranked recruit @ 85+ buried in the guys with 70s ratings. They may have missed him.

Make that 11 3 stars. DL Brian Miller just signed his LOI

They are reevaluating Tucker which defaults him to like a 77 rating until they finish... Whenever that is

Everyone in and lost none,unusual for us.Have maybe one big surprise left,could put us near the top.Have our signing party tonight at our new stadium.Coach Elliott and staff did a great job in a short time.

(02-01-2017 12:27 PM)gsubanddad@yahoo.com Wrote:  Everyone in and lost none,unusual for us.Have maybe one big surprise left,could put us near the top.Have our signing party tonight at our new stadium.Coach Elliott and staff did a great job in a short time.

No doubt. I called this along time ago for GaSt. Location, location, location. I tried to tell my GS brethren for years GaSt would not stay down.

(02-01-2017 11:41 AM)CatMom Wrote:  I personally don't care where we end up. This is a good class for us and that's all I care about. Now, let's see if it actually translates onto the field of play or they go bust.

Where you end up usually translates on the field, especially in college. Unless you get absolute morons that cant coach and get fired after one year on the job.

(02-01-2017 11:41 AM)CatMom Wrote:  I personally don't care where we end up. This is a good class for us and that's all I care about. Now, let's see if it actually translates onto the field of play or they go bust.

Same. If we get the 1st ranked class then great but it doesn't matter unless they actually produce. At the rate that we have lost players the last few years I won't get too excited until they actually play.

(02-01-2017 12:59 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 11:41 AM)CatMom Wrote:  I personally don't care where we end up. This is a good class for us and that's all I care about. Now, let's see if it actually translates onto the field of play or they go bust.

Same. If we get the 1st ranked class then great but it doesn't matter unless they actually produce. At the rate that we have lost players the last few years I won't get too excited until they actually play.

There really is no clear separation between Belt teams this year. While you want to be high as it does usually play out on the field over time even in conference none of us are at the top of the G5 this year like GS was last year. Just glad to be out of the 100's and maybe cracking the 80's if we can get one more decent kid or two, after the disastrous 2016 season.

Kudos to TXST for putting that class together after a tough year.

(02-01-2017 01:10 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 12:59 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 11:41 AM)CatMom Wrote:  I personally don't care where we end up. This is a good class for us and that's all I care about. Now, let's see if it actually translates onto the field of play or they go bust.

Same. If we get the 1st ranked class then great but it doesn't matter unless they actually produce. At the rate that we have lost players the last few years I won't get too excited until they actually play.

There really is no clear separation between Belt teams this year. While you want to be high as it does usually play out on the field over time even in conference none of us are at the top of the G5 this year like GS was last year. Just glad to be out of the 100's and maybe cracking the 80's if we can get one more decent kid or two, after the disastrous 2016 season.

Kudos to TXST for putting that class together after a tough year.

Agreed. For instance, on 247 - UL has highest average per player at 79.7 and USA has the lowest (not including New Mexico St) at 77.57. In contrast, in SEC - Bama has a 93.5 and Vandy is low at 82.5.

That is just one service. others vary, not all include transfers, signees from last year that count against this year, true JC evals, etc.

I am very happy with stAte's class even though it won't turn heads on rank.

(02-01-2017 12:19 PM)EagleNationRising Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 11:59 AM)TripleO Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 11:25 AM)TripleO Wrote:  GS with 10 3 stars, but 247 only showing them with 9. Got DL Tucker, GS's highest ranked recruit @ 85+ buried in the guys with 70s ratings. They may have missed him.

Make that 11 3 stars. DL Brian Miller just signed his LOI

They are reevaluating Tucker which defaults him to like a 77 rating until they finish... Whenever that is

They need to re-evaluate Laroche and Melton Brown too. Both should be rated a good bit higher. Giving Laroche in the 73s is insane. The guy has pull away speed that I haven't seen in a long while and plenty of moves to get free.

(02-01-2017 03:23 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 01:10 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 12:59 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 11:41 AM)CatMom Wrote:  I personally don't care where we end up. This is a good class for us and that's all I care about. Now, let's see if it actually translates onto the field of play or they go bust.

Same. If we get the 1st ranked class then great but it doesn't matter unless they actually produce. At the rate that we have lost players the last few years I won't get too excited until they actually play.

There really is no clear separation between Belt teams this year. While you want to be high as it does usually play out on the field over time even in conference none of us are at the top of the G5 this year like GS was last year. Just glad to be out of the 100's and maybe cracking the 80's if we can get one more decent kid or two, after the disastrous 2016 season.

Kudos to TXST for putting that class together after a tough year.

Agreed. For instance, on 247 - UL has highest average per player at 79.7 and USA has the lowest (not including New Mexico St) at 77.57. In contrast, in SEC - Bama has a 93.5 and Vandy is low at 82.5.

That is just one service. others vary, not all include transfers, signees from last year that count against this year, true JC evals, etc.

I am very happy with stAte's class even though it won't turn heads on rank.

Maybe a little better than anyone thinks.

The scuttlebutt is the DL you signed today, Curry,turned down Penn St, TCU, and maybe Arizona State this week. Good get that you needed.

According to the folks on AStateNation Arkansas again made another run at Dwayne Fisher.

Adams supposedly got his big-time offer, and all those other players showing A-State as the only offer, apparently all had multiple FBS offers according to your coach, with the possible exception of Hunter Morton( who supposedly is a blue-shirt).

Still don't see Jaypee Philbert on any site but he signed today, and he may be your biggest get for next year.

If true expect 247 ratings to be adjusted over the next few weeks.

(02-01-2017 03:23 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 01:10 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 12:59 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 11:41 AM)CatMom Wrote:  I personally don't care where we end up. This is a good class for us and that's all I care about. Now, let's see if it actually translates onto the field of play or they go bust.

Same. If we get the 1st ranked class then great but it doesn't matter unless they actually produce. At the rate that we have lost players the last few years I won't get too excited until they actually play.

There really is no clear separation between Belt teams this year. While you want to be high as it does usually play out on the field over time even in conference none of us are at the top of the G5 this year like GS was last year. Just glad to be out of the 100's and maybe cracking the 80's if we can get one more decent kid or two, after the disastrous 2016 season.

Kudos to TXST for putting that class together after a tough year.

Agreed. For instance, on 247 - UL has highest average per player at 79.7 and USA has the lowest (not including New Mexico St) at 77.57. In contrast, in SEC - Bama has a 93.5 and Vandy is low at 82.5.

That is just one service. others vary, not all include transfers, signees from last year that count against this year, true JC evals, etc.

I am very happy with stAte's class even though it won't turn heads on rank.

24/7 is all the services combined. Thats what the reds dots mean under the stars. It represents how many out of the four services rated a recruit, most FBS recruits get at least three of the four rating them. If you dont have a team account on 24/7 it takes a little longer for all recruits to be updated.

(02-01-2017 04:05 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  24/7 is all the services combined. Thats what the reds dots mean under the stars. It represents how many out of the four services rated a recruit, most FBS recruits get at least three of the four rating them. If you dont have a team account on 24/7 it takes a little longer for all recruits to be updated.

A couple of those still need adjusting for us too. I know Kenton Tuckers final rating is likely to end up between .78 and .80. His current rating is super high because he was once rated 5.6 on rivals which is almost 4 star level on 247 and has dropped to a 5.3 and isn't reflected yet which is basically a high 2 star.

I'm pretty sure he's the one who tore his knee up Junior year? If that's the case that would explain the drastic drop in his rating. Either way he's got good size and I'm happy we landed him.

Hear my words as a Texas State Fan "STARS DON'T MEAN SQUAT" "RECRUITING CLASS RANKINGS, DON'T MEAN SQUAT"

Get the recruits on campus, in the classroom, on the field, and then we will see how they handle stress, responsibility, and competition away from their comfortable homes. Nothing in life is guaranteed...Absolutely Nothing. You will not be able to judge your 2017 class until 2021

(02-01-2017 04:05 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 03:23 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 01:10 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 12:59 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 11:41 AM)CatMom Wrote:  I personally don't care where we end up. This is a good class for us and that's all I care about. Now, let's see if it actually translates onto the field of play or they go bust.

Same. If we get the 1st ranked class then great but it doesn't matter unless they actually produce. At the rate that we have lost players the last few years I won't get too excited until they actually play.

There really is no clear separation between Belt teams this year. While you want to be high as it does usually play out on the field over time even in conference none of us are at the top of the G5 this year like GS was last year. Just glad to be out of the 100's and maybe cracking the 80's if we can get one more decent kid or two, after the disastrous 2016 season.

Kudos to TXST for putting that class together after a tough year.

Agreed. For instance, on 247 - UL has highest average per player at 79.7 and USA has the lowest (not including New Mexico St) at 77.57. In contrast, in SEC - Bama has a 93.5 and Vandy is low at 82.5.

That is just one service. others vary, not all include transfers, signees from last year that count against this year, true JC evals, etc.

I am very happy with stAte's class even though it won't turn heads on rank.

24/7 is all the services combined. Thats what the reds dots mean under the stars. It represents how many out of the four services rated a recruit, most FBS recruits get at least three of the four rating them. If you dont have a team account on 24/7 it takes a little longer for all recruits to be updated.

I know, but no sight has the whole picture. Each school is probably missing a player here or there. For stAte, i can give you at least 3 quick examples: Lannard Bonner - came last August, redshirt, counts against 17 class - 3 star Kendrick Edwards - transfer last August from Arkansas, counts against 17 class - 3 star Japyee Philbert - just signed, 5th year senior from Iowa St. 3 star with .85 ranking

I know there are more, that is just off the top of my head. Would that move stAte up a couple of spots on 247, probably. Does that really mean much? who knows. Have to wait and see who and what pans out.

(02-01-2017 04:37 PM)Cajuncat Wrote:  Hear my words as a Texas State Fan "STARS DON'T MEAN SQUAT" "RECRUITING CLASS RANKINGS, DON'T MEAN SQUAT"

Get the recruits on campus, in the classroom, on the field, and then we will see how they handle stress, responsibility, and competition away from their comfortable homes. Nothing in life is guaranteed...Absolutely Nothing. You will not be able to judge your 2017 class until 2021

Fake news.

(02-01-2017 04:57 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 04:05 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 03:23 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 01:10 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 12:59 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  Same. If we get the 1st ranked class then great but it doesn't matter unless they actually produce. At the rate that we have lost players the last few years I won't get too excited until they actually play.

There really is no clear separation between Belt teams this year. While you want to be high as it does usually play out on the field over time even in conference none of us are at the top of the G5 this year like GS was last year. Just glad to be out of the 100's and maybe cracking the 80's if we can get one more decent kid or two, after the disastrous 2016 season.

Kudos to TXST for putting that class together after a tough year.

Agreed. For instance, on 247 - UL has highest average per player at 79.7 and USA has the lowest (not including New Mexico St) at 77.57. In contrast, in SEC - Bama has a 93.5 and Vandy is low at 82.5.

That is just one service. others vary, not all include transfers, signees from last year that count against this year, true JC evals, etc.

I am very happy with stAte's class even though it won't turn heads on rank.

24/7 is all the services combined. Thats what the reds dots mean under the stars. It represents how many out of the four services rated a recruit, most FBS recruits get at least three of the four rating them. If you dont have a team account on 24/7 it takes a little longer for all recruits to be updated.

I know, but no sight has the whole picture. Each school is probably missing a player here or there. For stAte, i can give you at least 3 quick examples: Lannard Bonner - came last August, redshirt, counts against 17 class - 3 star Kendrick Edwards - transfer last August from Arkansas, counts against 17 class - 3 star Japyee Philbert - just signed, 5th year senior from Iowa St. 3 star with .85 ranking

I know there are more, that is just off the top of my head. Would that move stAte up a couple of spots on 247, probably. Does that really mean much? who knows. Have to wait and see who and what pans out.

When you get into transfers or late signees those or usually exceptions. They will go into your total team talent ranking though which carries a lot more weight on where a team really is on talent.

Hopefully they update this soon.

http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Footbal...tComposite

(02-01-2017 05:08 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 04:57 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 04:05 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 03:23 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 01:10 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  There really is no clear separation between Belt teams this year. While you want to be high as it does usually play out on the field over time even in conference none of us are at the top of the G5 this year like GS was last year. Just glad to be out of the 100's and maybe cracking the 80's if we can get one more decent kid or two, after the disastrous 2016 season.

Kudos to TXST for putting that class together after a tough year.

Agreed. For instance, on 247 - UL has highest average per player at 79.7 and USA has the lowest (not including New Mexico St) at 77.57. In contrast, in SEC - Bama has a 93.5 and Vandy is low at 82.5.

That is just one service. others vary, not all include transfers, signees from last year that count against this year, true JC evals, etc.

I am very happy with stAte's class even though it won't turn heads on rank.

24/7 is all the services combined. Thats what the reds dots mean under the stars. It represents how many out of the four services rated a recruit, most FBS recruits get at least three of the four rating them. If you dont have a team account on 24/7 it takes a little longer for all recruits to be updated.

I know, but no sight has the whole picture. Each school is probably missing a player here or there. For stAte, i can give you at least 3 quick examples: Lannard Bonner - came last August, redshirt, counts against 17 class - 3 star Kendrick Edwards - transfer last August from Arkansas, counts against 17 class - 3 star Japyee Philbert - just signed, 5th year senior from Iowa St. 3 star with .85 ranking

I know there are more, that is just off the top of my head. Would that move stAte up a couple of spots on 247, probably. Does that really mean much? who knows. Have to wait and see who and what pans out.

When you get into transfers or late signees those or usually exceptions. They will go into your total team talent ranking though which carries a lot more weight on where a team really is on talent.

Hopefully they update this soon.

http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Footbal...tComposite

Last year they didn't update this until after fall camp when the depth charts started coming out.

(02-01-2017 04:57 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 04:05 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 03:23 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 01:10 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 12:59 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  Same. If we get the 1st ranked class then great but it doesn't matter unless they actually produce. At the rate that we have lost players the last few years I won't get too excited until they actually play.

There really is no clear separation between Belt teams this year. While you want to be high as it does usually play out on the field over time even in conference none of us are at the top of the G5 this year like GS was last year. Just glad to be out of the 100's and maybe cracking the 80's if we can get one more decent kid or two, after the disastrous 2016 season.

Kudos to TXST for putting that class together after a tough year.

Agreed. For instance, on 247 - UL has highest average per player at 79.7 and USA has the lowest (not including New Mexico St) at 77.57. In contrast, in SEC - Bama has a 93.5 and Vandy is low at 82.5.

That is just one service. others vary, not all include transfers, signees from last year that count against this year, true JC evals, etc.

I am very happy with stAte's class even though it won't turn heads on rank.

24/7 is all the services combined. Thats what the reds dots mean under the stars. It represents how many out of the four services rated a recruit, most FBS recruits get at least three of the four rating them. If you dont have a team account on 24/7 it takes a little longer for all recruits to be updated.

I know, but no sight has the whole picture. Each school is probably missing a player here or there. For stAte, i can give you at least 3 quick examples: Lannard Bonner - came last August, redshirt, counts against 17 class - 3 star Kendrick Edwards - transfer last August from Arkansas, counts against 17 class - 3 star Japyee Philbert - just signed, 5th year senior from Iowa St. 3 star with .85 ranking

I know there are more, that is just off the top of my head. Would that move stAte up a couple of spots on 247, probably. Does that really mean much? who knows. Have to wait and see who and what pans out.

You have 7 maybe 8 players that have a good chance of getting 3 star ratings over the next few weeks on 247, when and if their offers are confirmed. Got a response back from 247 to just verify the offers from the players and coaches, which is how it has worked in the past.

Got a little curious when Anderson said they had to fight off Southern Miss, Wake Forest, Marshall, and Mississippi State to get even their worse rated player on 247, Caleb Bonner, who shows only A-State offering. 247 is curious, and I am going to try and see what Rivals has to say. Scout does not care.

The good news for the A-State fans that don't like the fact your rankings take a beating on these sites, despite the fact you are getting the best players, at least in your area of needs, your coaches have indicated that this might be the last year of funky recruiting.

App's lowest rated recruit from 2015 was the SBC POTY in 2016, while our lowest ranked recruit from 2016 returned a KO for a TD in our bowl game this year. I predict another diamond in the rough this year.

Honestly folks, we didn't recruit anyone who can help us in the least. We will suck again next year. I'd put us 4th or 5th in the preseason ranking. I expect we'll struggle again but not have that turn around in conference like we've had the last 2 years. Heck, we might even have to bring a trainer in off the bench to play if we have injuries. Yes, that was sarcasm.

I get tickled by the whole process of recruiting. All that matters is how they all perform on the field. You never know until they're on the grass.

We'll see you next year. Good luck.